Sir Phoenix

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I'm close to the end... but I still have two events with Miku to do, and I need to call her, but I don't have her number. I've gotten all her other events and don't have any of these events.
 
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rzw81

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Is there a bug where the Horrible People event never gets triggered? I was reading it automatically gets triggered on day 34 but it never happens. And I can't do anything with Ayane after that
 

NumbChucker

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Is there a bug where the Horrible People event never gets triggered? I was reading it automatically gets triggered on day 34 but it never happens. And I can't do anything with Ayane after that
Wiki is still the previous version of the game. The revamp deleted that scene, (you can still access it on the computer on weekends) as well as a few others that were kinda detracting from both the quality and the pacing of the entire game.
 
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I'm close to the end... but I still have two events with Miku to do, and I need to call her, but I don't have her number. I've gotten all her other events and don't have any of these events.
There's a bug in the originally posted version of .24. Sel posted a patch on the subscriber section of the Discord that fixed a few day 1 bugs like that.
 

Vizer007

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Damn, its so sad to have so little time to play games T-T
Heck, I am a week and a half in and I just got to the 1st reset ><
On the bright side - the longer will it take me to complete 1st chapter - the easyer will be the wait for the next update xD

By the way, does anyone knows if Sel is going to remake 2nd chapter sometime in the future too? Or I can just continue from this save? Though I pretty much beated 2nd chapter again alrady with the influence of podcast while waited for the remake and doubt I will enjoy it as much.

And what "day 1 bugs" are there? Except Miku phone number. And typos here and there.
 

alex2011

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Damn, its so sad to have so little time to play games T-T
Heck, I am a week and a half in and I just got to the 1st reset ><
On the bright side - the longer will it take me to complete 1st chapter - the easyer will be the wait for the next update xD

By the way, does anyone knows if Sel is going to remake 2nd chapter sometime in the future too? Or I can just continue from this save? Though I pretty much beated 2nd chapter again alrady with the influence of podcast while waited for the remake and doubt I will enjoy it as much.

And what "day 1 bugs" are there? Except Miku phone number. And typos here and there.
Not that he has said, this remake is the only one announced. However, given that this remake came from the fact that the quality of his work improved to such a degree that there was a need to make changes to the content before that rise in quality and that development is far from over, it makes sense that there is a distinct possibility other parts of the story will be remade to fit future increases in quality, including parts of this remake.

For now, it is safe to continue on whatever save.
 
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rzw81

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Wiki is still the previous version of the game. The revamp deleted that scene, (you can still access it on the computer on weekends) as well as a few others that were kinda detracting from both the quality and the pacing of the entire game.
Thanks, how do you increase Ayane's lust? I got her affection past 45 before and nothing triggered
 

Vizer007

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Thanks, how do you increase Ayane's lust? I got her affection past 45 before and nothing triggered
To increase her lust you need to go into her dorm room and get the lust option. If its locked, then you still didnt get the needed event. The event triggered by either encountering her in the Dojo (weekend, needed to be done a few times with high enough affection, which you have) and in her dorm room. There is another lock, by the amount of days that passed and events that got triggered by that, but I dont think you have to worry about it since you got her affection to a whopping 45.
 
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danteVasquex

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I feel so conflicted about this game anymore I have so much nostalgia with the characters but the game takes itself so seriously now (A drinking game for every scene where the creator tries to be philosophical/existential would be lethal) and getting events to trigger is an absolute chore (I don't know if this is because of poor design or the lack of a in game walk through I play a lot of sandbox games and this one is by far the most annoying in this sense). But the characters are so fun. Does anyone ever get this feeling with this game?
 

alex2011

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I feel so conflicted about this game anymore I have so much nostalgia with the characters but the game takes itself so seriously now (A drinking game for every scene where the creator tries to be philosophical/existential would be lethal) and getting events to trigger is an absolute chore (I don't know if this is because of poor design or the lack of a in game walk through I play a lot of sandbox games and this one is by far the most annoying in this sense). But the characters are so fun. Does anyone ever get this feeling with this game?
Not really, no.

The philosophical point comes down to the fact that, as Selebus has said, this is not the typical F95 porn game that throws story quality out the window for sex, in fact, he himself has said it isn't a porn game, a game which focuses mostly on sexual content, at all even with the majority of F95 games being porn games and the mentality on F95, despite there being a tag that says otherwise, that all games here are porn games.

The biggest point to the game is its story, the sex can even be stripped out with very little effect on the game. Also, existential is kind of the thing with Denpa games, they don't typically go for the cheap FNAF jumpscare, they go for long term creep factor as the situation gets worse over time.

The event triggers being difficult is often a lack of stats, which are always multiples of 5, and then there's the opposite issue where having too much can cause a cascade of multiple events that can blow the player well beyond the point of missing one or more. Then there's how each character is connected, there is no skipping any main character a player does not like, they all have to be done to at least a limited degree as part of requirements.
 

alex2011

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This game starts with forced "breeding niece incest" scene with decapitation.... the story seems to start well out of the window
It actually does make sense to the story when you consider that this is a Denpa game, a type of horror game that is known to use existential elements such as familiar characters, familiar to other characters anyway, acting in unfamiliar ways. This is the focus of the scene, this is not within the character of Ami at that particular moment as any other participant in the scene knows her, leaning into that existential element of a familiar character acting in an unfamiliar way even though I'm pretty sure the scene itself doesn't take place in the reality of the game, but instead a dream sequence or other non-real plane within the game universe.
 

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I feel so conflicted about this game anymore I have so much nostalgia with the characters but the game takes itself so seriously now (A drinking game for every scene where the creator tries to be philosophical/existential would be lethal) and getting events to trigger is an absolute chore (I don't know if this is because of poor design or the lack of a in game walk through I play a lot of sandbox games and this one is by far the most annoying in this sense). But the characters are so fun. Does anyone ever get this feeling with this game?
Not really. I think there's still plenty of humour and lightheartedness, maybe too much 4th wall breaks (really not a fan of those in general), but I see what u mean. It's just that Selebus' graphomania is progressing and I'm vibing with it, but I can see how some ppl don't.
 

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It actually does make sense to the story when you consider that this is a Denpa game, a type of horror game that is known to use existential elements such as familiar characters, familiar to other characters anyway, acting in unfamiliar ways. This is the focus of the scene, this is not within the character of Ami at that particular moment as any other participant in the scene knows her, leaning into that existential element of a familiar character acting in an unfamiliar way even though I'm pretty sure the scene itself doesn't take place in the reality of the game, but instead a dream sequence or other non-real plane within the game universe.
Well, again, previous scene was better. At least in my own memory and the feel that it gave me as a new player.
At the time I was a bit confused and was in the "Was it really just a dream?", yes, it gave a bit of a different feel, not denpa at all, but the effect was great, it created suspense. Now? It just screams at us, there is no more feeling that something is wrong, because now we know that something is wrong. But maybe Sel wanted it to be this way and I really wonder how would it be if it was my 1st time playing it...
 

akselx

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Well, again, previous scene was better. At least in my own memory and the feel that it gave me as a new player.
At the time I was a bit confused and was in the "Was it really just a dream?", yes, it gave a bit of a different feel, not denpa at all, but the effect was great, it created suspense. Now? It just screams at us, there is no more feeling that something is wrong, because now we know that something is wrong. But maybe Sel wanted it to be this way and I really wonder how would it be if it was my 1st time playing it...
I actually agree with this and find that a lot of changes Sel did work well as a retrospective experience, but I feel like he kinda didn't anticipate what impression it would leave new players with. For example, I liked previous clock room scene better. It was short and sweet wtf moment. It even colored my impression of the music choices during sex scenes (i know, random), particulary AsobeatSex2. It was as if that track was telling me that there's something sinister beyond the surface, despite being all upbeat. Now the scene somewhat drags, even if I appreciate the early introductions for gods and the Teacher.
 
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Sir Phoenix

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There's a bug in the originally posted version of .24. Sel posted a patch on the subscriber section of the Discord that fixed a few day 1 bugs like that.
Ah, thanks for the heads up. I got around it by looking up the console command to activate the appropriate scene at the appropriate time.
 

GeneralJo

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So, my last save from way back earlier this year before this update came out was at a screen that simply said 'there is nothing' .....when I load that save, that's all I get...? How do I get past this to get to the new content?
 

alex2011

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Well, again, previous scene was better. At least in my own memory and the feel that it gave me as a new player.
At the time I was a bit confused and was in the "Was it really just a dream?", yes, it gave a bit of a different feel, not denpa at all, but the effect was great, it created suspense. Now? It just screams at us, there is no more feeling that something is wrong, because now we know that something is wrong. But maybe Sel wanted it to be this way and I really wonder how would it be if it was my 1st time playing it...
All I'm saying is that the 'quality being thrown out the window' part of one of my comment does not apply to this game because the focus is not on sex even in scenes with sex such as the reworked Ami scene, where the focus is more on that she is doing something unfamiliar to the rest of the characters in the scene.

As for whether the Denpa element is still there, she is still a familiar character doing something unfamiliar, so it can still be considered a Denpa moment. The change is in how blatantly wrong it feels compared to the more subtle feel of the original, where the original gave us the feeling that something is wrong without outright telling us, the rework outright tells us. That's still Denpa, the rework is just not being subtle about something being wrong.

(NOTE: Red "my comment" text directly links to my previous comment with the original text of what I said for reference purposes)

So, my last save from way back earlier this year before this update came out was at a screen that simply said 'there is nothing' .....when I load that save, that's all I get...? How do I get past this to get to the new content?
As it is now, it seems there is a bug preventing this, but advancing the "there is nothing" text at least once is supposed to unlock the remade scenes in the replay function. There is no content that comes after the "there is nothing" text, this update was entirely for the rework due to how massive it was (something like 170 events were reworked).
 

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So, my last save from way back earlier this year before this update came out was at a screen that simply said 'there is nothing' .....when I load that save, that's all I get...? How do I get past this to get to the new content?
That's the end of it until 8/8.

While a big update did just drop, it's all a rework of the first half of Chapter 1. All of the new events are prior to the first beach event.
 
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ansc

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I prefer the original beginning tbh. More concise and funny.
I also find the original message regarding the ultimate worth of life ('there is nothing') as being a very provocative 'first note' to start on (even if the game later concludes on a much more positive note about existence. Which it shouldn't, since life is just a countdown to the grave while you distract yourself as best you can or make up lies that make you feel like something that /lasts/)
(provocative!)

Also- the way Maya treated Sensei in the beginning made more sense in the original. Maya tried to /ignore/ Sensei, now she instigates as soon as she thinks its the start of another 'sensei-cycle-thing'? It doesn't make sense... she only acts that way because 'player sensei' IS the actual sensei and when she sensed that she began to both resist it internally (because it 'actually being him' is high stakes, emotionally. Its something both wanted and feared) and send exterior signals of that internal conflict (green scarf event).
 
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