Bingoogus

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Just cause it's the scene i'm currently in, Makoto's 'humans with hollow bones' is the first real instance we have of her possibly breaking through the ignorance barrier, her previous one was the more common "huh... that's weird... anyway" but in this one she actually makes it through before being violently forced back so if any of you theory duders are doing any digging, i'd say that'd be the point to start from to look for clues.
 

barglenarglezous

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Do you walkthrough for version 0.30 ?
A couple of people posted one in this thread back when that version came out, you'll have to go quite a ways back in the thread to look for it (we've been wordy this month), but if you look around posts dated 5/1/2023, you'll find it.
 

Bingoogus

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I just watched Ami's 'heaven for human blood' (think that was it's name, 6 seconds from passing out rn) and it confused me a bunch, like, is she saying Maya is flase or is she gaslighting Akira or... i dunno, i'm going to bed, you guys can follow this shit 23 times better than i can.
 

crustlord12

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These theories are really getting out of hand.
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I agree with you. The theorycrafting goes way too far for me a lot of the time, if I miss a few days of posts then I have 5 pages to catch up and I can't tell if people are just further spinning off of other theories with literally 0 substantiation or not. Lots of "I believe X" when there's less than a tenuous thread connecting them
 
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DeSkel15

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I just watched Ami's 'heaven for human blood' (think that was it's name, 6 seconds from passing out rn) and it confused me a bunch, like, is she saying Maya is flase or is she gaslighting Akira or... i dunno, i'm going to bed, you guys can follow this shit 23 times better than i can.
It can be taken a few different ways, but I think the most accepted explanation is that Sensei simply hid Maya and maybe Noriko from Ami back then. Why? Probably because he had ulterior motives when it came to tutoring.

Maya also kept this secret from Ami, because her and Sensei's relationship was/is a secret. As far as Ami knows, Maya didn't come into Sensei's life until she brought Maya home in Middle School. In actuality though, Sensei and Maya have known each other since she would have been in Elementary. They've just kept the reality of their relationship a secret since then.

Of course, with all the false memories going around, who knows what's real or not.
 
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DeSkel15

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I agree with you. The theorycrafting goes way too far for me a lot of the time, if I miss a few days of posts then I have 5 pages to catch up and I can't tell if people are just further spinning off of other theories with literally 0 substantiation or not. Lots of "I believe X" when there's less than a tenuous thread connecting them
That's the main reason why I try to show images (that I deem necessary), while I'm theorizing. There's nothing wrong with theorizing using theories, but they can easily be misconstrued as being based off facts somewhere down the line, when their foundation isn't even likely to be correct in the first place, let alone what is being theorized using it.

It's also why I call The Shapeshifter:
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"The Shapeshifter" instead of Daisy or Himawari, or Ayane's daughter, etc, since those are only theories for now.

Then again, I do call the triggered version of Ami "Psycho Ami" even though there's no actual name for her yet. There's just "Real Ami":
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and then the changed/created/dangerous Ami that has butchered and sodomized her classmates in the past, according to Maya. "Psycho Ami" gets the point across though, and saves time.

I wonder what her name actually will be if she's given one? Kinda hoping for "Callous Ami".
 

hth2m1

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Lamb Legs comes to mind too, with Ami straight up saying the other Ami isn't the real her
Well yeah, but like if she really is fully psycho she could easily just be lying, or that could've been entirely in Akira's mind. Not really a reliable source of info either way.
 
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hth2m1

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Do you walkthrough for version 0.30 ?
I recommend checking out the Lessons in Love Wiki. It tends to show the requirements for events, and it's up to .30.
A couple of people posted one in this thread back when that version came out, you'll have to go quite a ways back in the thread to look for it (we've been wordy this month), but if you look around posts dated 5/1/2023, you'll find it.
The guide mod linked on the first post is also good up through version 0.30, it's just 0.31 that it's not updated for yet (will still work with game version 0.31 but won't show any hints past 0.30). If you use it you won't be able to use that save file without the mod going forward, but old mod versions work with new game versions so not really a big deal.
 

BlackDays

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"The Shapeshifter" instead of Daisy or Himawari, or Ayane's daughter, etc, since those are only theories for now.
You might be a topic in the next plant council :LOL:.

With ch3 "Untiltled" being rather clear that Himawari (the shapeshifter) is Ayanes daughter.
I think at least that she is her daughter (leaving the name out), is beyond the boundaries of a theory now.

While i agree that a lot of stuff that comes up here, also things from me, are just theories.
But we have to blame Sel here. Fourth wall breaking isn't helping, no matter if it's intended or not.
 

DeSkel15

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You might be a topic in the next plant council :LOL:.

With ch3 "Untiltled" being rather clear that Himawari (the shapeshifter) is Ayanes daughter.
I think at least that she is her daughter (leaving the name out), is beyond the boundaries of a theory now.

While i agree that a lot of stuff that comes up here, also things from me, are just theories.
But we have to blame Sel here. Fourth wall breaking isn't helping, no matter if it's intended or not.
Nah, It's still just a theory until it's 100% confirmed. Not to say I don't think she is, but there's still wiggle room. If it was actually clear as you claim, she would have been said to be Ayane's daughter.

There's a lot we don't know about The Shapeshifter. So, I wouldn't go assuming things just yet.

I do think some of these Ami theories will show up in the next Plant council though. I sincerely hope the whole "Ami killing you sends to the roof" theory is brought up lmao.
 
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Selly is probably in some corner of this thread writing down all our theories and looking for a way to either scoff at them in game or add them to it

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Я думаю, что у меня повреждение головного мозга, я четыре часа искала ответы на 12 вопросов в молоке матери и так и не преуспела в этом вопросе. *dead*
 
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mannice431

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When's the next update coming? I seem to have completely overlooked the latest release up until yesterday.
 
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