blackredfish

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As long as there's some levity and compassion sprinkled throughout. If it's just suffering for the next 3 chapters I don't think I can keep playing.
Agreed. i'm a little worried about this, although not for myself in particular. I hope Selebus don't lose too many supporters during the dark path phase. We all have been warned that is coming, and no one should act surprised or offended when it finally kicks in. Yet, humans are strange and contradictory creatures. I can see people (even some who says are looking forward to the dark path) going "you know, this is actually too much for me". Hopefully I'm wrong.
 

DeSkel15

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I took that line to mean chapter 3 is when Ami and others find out about the other people Akira is boning. This has already happened in some cases. Ayane being the obvious example.
That could definitely be what's it's referring to. There's also been stuff like Ayane putting Kirin in her place, Rin and Otoha fighting then sexting, Nodoka bullying Yumi, Miku hiding things from Makoto, Io catching Sana, Ami "catching" Noriko in the closet, Ami seemingly lying about Maya and Ayane, etc. Petty Drama overall.

Maybe even "Psycho Ami" fits the Petty Drama stuff in the end. Then again, Chapter 3 could be near it's end, or simply around the middle. Hard to tell after the time skip.
 
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DeSkel15

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Agreed. i'm a little worried about this, although not for myself in particular. I hope Selebus don't lose too many supporters during the dark path phase. We all have been warned that is coming, and no one should act surprised or offended when it finally kicks in. Yet, humans are strange and contradictory creatures. I can see people (even some who says are looking forward to the dark path) going "you know, this is actually too much for me". Hopefully I'm wrong.
As long as things don't get as meaninglessly effed up as "Crossed", I think I should be good. Might need a few breaks to wrap my head around things, depending on what happens though.

On the other hand, I definitely see quite the migration incoming.
 
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That could definitely be what's it's referring to. There's also been stuff like Ayane putting Kirin in her place, Rin and Otoha fighting then sexting, Nodoka bullying Yumi, Miku hiding things from Makoto, Io catching Sana, Ami "catching" Noriko in the closet, Ami seemingly lying about Maya and Ayane, etc. Petty Drama overall.

Maybe even "Psycho Ami" fits the Petty Drama stuff in the end. Then again, Chapter 3 could be near it's end, or simply around the middle. Hard to tell after the time skip.
If the pattern holds, the recent reset would be the midway point, and the end of the chapter would happen before the end of the year (again, if pattern holds, probably close to christmas)
 
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Sure it would be much more stuff like this despite which route you would choose with Ami. Pain is inevitable.

Game is becoming more painful to play each chapter and I am sure the only limit for this is Selebus' creativity. However, I personaly like this. Emotions are awesome
Considering that Selly's writing sucked at the first chapter, this is a good change of pace at least.
I kinda expected it tbh with all of the puzzles and happy events
 

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Agreed. i'm a little worried about this, although not for myself in particular. I hope Selebus don't lose too many supporters during the dark path phase. We all have been warned that is coming, and no one should act surprised or offended when it finally kicks in. Yet, humans are strange and contradictory creatures. I can see people (even some who says are looking forward to the dark path) going "you know, this is actually too much for me". Hopefully I'm wrong.
I don't think losing fans is avoidable if you want to switch the vibe of the story. I'll wait untill chapter 4 is out to fully judge. Though there are also 35 endings for all solo paths and as long as everyone lives I think I can deal with the dark stuff.

LiL is also a special case since I'm not aware of any monthly series out there that builds up very loveable characters for 3 years and then suddenly switch the vibe to very dark(which I'm expecting what Chapter 4 will be) and at least watching the reactions will be very interesting.
 

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If the pattern holds, the recent reset would be the midway point, and the end of the chapter would happen before the end of the year (again, if pattern holds, probably close to christmas)
I think Christmas just happened or "Beachmas", but yeah, might be another time skip or something. Idk. Time is weird in Kumon-mi.
 

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If it's just suffering for the next 3 chapters I don't think I can keep playing.
Just suffering is boring. Sure it would be more like monthly surprise suffering
So, yeah, things are likely just in the "Petty" phase. It hasn't really gone dark yet. I expect things to get much worse.. especially for Ayane unfortunately.
I'll give this chapter 2 bluejays at max. Maybe 3 if there would be interesting homicide, but I sure that if it would be a homicide, everyone would act like nothing happend which makes it ~ equal to bluejay.

Hovewer, it might get much darker whenever we finaly go to Sana events or if Maya would be reset in the end of chapter (technicaly, drama would be in chapter 4 in this case, but whatever). And there is always a room for something completly unexpected.

Also would be really nice if there would be some kind of trolley problem when player is forced to decide, but it will make development of future stuff extremly hard so Sel would probably not do this until it would be much closer to the end.
Considering that Selly's writing sucked at the first chapter, this is a good change of pace at least.
I still don't get why do you think chapter 1 sucks, especialy when i started playing pre-0.24.0. Nonetheless without chapter 1 there would be much less empathy which definetly amplifies effect
I don't think losing fans is avoidable if you want to switch the vibe of the story. I'll wait untill chapter 4 is out to fully judge. Though there are also 35 endings for all solo paths and as long as everyone lives I think I can deal with the dark stuff.
It is relatively strange for me that guys who love this game even after events like "Bluejay" or "Things that hurt" might be afraid if this game become even darker. It is not like fans are not prepared to real shit
I'm still amazed I originally downloaded this game looking for porn and now i'm emotionally invested. It's like Teaching Feeling all over again.
Game title was a big spoiler, yeah
 

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I'll give this chapter 2 bluejays at max. Maybe 3 if there would be interesting homicide, but I sure that if it would be a homicide, everyone would act like nothing happend which makes it ~ equal to bluejay.

Hovewer, it might get much darker whenever we finaly go to Sana events or if Maya would be reset in the end of chapter (technicaly, drama would be in chapter 4 in this case, but whatever). And there is always a room for something completly unexpected.

Also would be really nice if there would be some kind of trolley problem when player is forced to decide, but it will make development of future stuff extremly hard so Sel would probably not do this until it would be much closer to the end.
Personally I consider the uncontrollably sodomizing Sara part and White Oak Door stuff, as darker than Bluejay. Then again, I don't really find death as dark as others do, especially with a reset button.

I do think there will be some options to save certain girls, by choosing between them, but I doubt those would be real choices. Wouldn't be the first time the Narrator went "You actually thought you had a choice?".

I'm just waiting for the Black Souls stuff to kick in, where murdering, raping, and sacrificing your love interests is in your best interest (to a degree).
 
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Personally I consider the uncontrollably sodomizing Sara part and White Oak Door stuff, as darker than Bluejay. Then again, I don't really find death as dark as others do, especially with a reset button.
I used Bluejay in terms of "rank drama level on scale from 1 to X Bluejays", so 2 Bluejays mean 2x darker then Bluejay. It's not about quantity, it's about quality

Also wasn't Bluejay a chapter 1 thing? I thought it happened before "There is Nothing"
Yep, but I don't understand why do you ask. I am still not fluent with English so my post might be a bit misleading
 
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I used Bluejay in terms of "rank drama level on scale from 1 to X Bluejays", so 2 Bluejays mean 2x darker then Bluejay. It's not about quantity, it's about quality


Yep, but I don't understand why do you ask. I am still not fluent with English so my post might be a bit misleading
It's my bad, I initially misread your reply and thought you said "Chapter 2 Bluejay" as in Bluejay from Chapter 2.

I removed that part and added other stuff.
 
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I do think there will be some options to save certain girls, by choosing between them, but I doubt those would be real choices. Wouldn't be the first time the Narrator went "You actually thought you had a choice?".
There is a problem with sacrificing girls without real choice and this problem is called "35 single endings". I mention Maya's death because idea of fighting entire world to return her (or other girl with equal value) someway converges with storytelling vector, but if there would be multiple ressurections in the end it would became Shaman King. And by ressurection i mean return of identity gone with reset, not a simple new Maya in new cycle.

Nonetheless i expect some real choices with consiquences anyway, because it is essential part of real darkness. Just in a way when Selebus would not be forced to write multiple versions of any group event
 
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Played this game a decent of the way through about a year and a half ago, but stopped due to the lack of sex scenes in each update. As someone who has interest in the characters and story, but wants to actual porn in my porn games, is it worth coming back after a year?
 

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There is a problem with sacrificing girls without real choice and this problem is called "35 single endings". I mention Maya's death because idea of fighting entire world to return her (or other girl with equal value) someway converges with storytelling vector, but if there would be multiple ressurections in the end it would became Shaman King. And by ressurection i mean return of identity gone with reset, not a simple new Maya in new cycle.

Nonetheless i expect some real choices with consiquences anyway, because it is essential part of real darkness. Just in the way when Selebus would not be forced to write multiple versions of any group event
I was thinking more of a "god has decided you must tribute one girl from the rooftop or be reset", and you get to choose between Ayane or Maya, but no matter what, god takes Maya. You either have to deal with Maya feeling betrayed before being reset, or Ayane feeling betrayed and watching the girl you chose over her be reset anyway.

I do think that being "reset" isn't really a game over scenario though. Take Sensei for example, he's been reset countless times, yet he's still regaining memories. Even if Maya gets reset, she might just come back later on. Although, I think she might prefer some memories staying gone.

I am hoping those "35 endings" aren't just variations of the same things except the girl is pregnant in their second ending, though. If Sel goes that route then he could easily create over 40 endings just by giving each main girl one pregnant ending and then a non-pregnant version of that ending. (Something I find incredibly lazy in Multiple Ending games)

Still, I definitely expect some real choices with real consequences down the line. Some endings being like Nodoka and God Sensei turning the rest of the cast into sex puppets forever, or Sensei losing his mind and being swallowed up by an infinite amount of variations of Sekai that rape him eternally, would be interesting. I am definitely curious whether the "True ending" will be considered a Happy ending or more of a somber acceptable ending.
 
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Played this game a decent of the way through about a year and a half ago, but stopped due to the lack of sex scenes in each update. As someone who has interest in the characters and story, but wants to actual porn in my porn games, is it worth coming back after a year?
Not for the porn. The quality and quantity of porn scenes has been decreasing, and some are even skipped over like Futaba's dorm war date, or the new Makoto impregnation sex, just fade to black and over.
 

DeSkel15

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Played this game a decent of the way through about a year and a half ago, but stopped due to the lack of sex scenes in each update. As someone who has interest in the characters and story, but wants to actual porn in my porn games, is it worth coming back after a year?
Depends on the characters you're interested in. Some still have no sex scenes while others have multiple repeatable ones, as well as some during the story itself.

Definitely not a game I'd recommend if you're just wanting wholesome nymphos or something though. Porn isn't really the priority. It's like a bonus at best.
 

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Just to mention, there were a lot of sex scenes starting from patch when you droped the game and some of them were really interesting. But no way you would be satisfied if you continue to play it when you reach current patch. I'll personaly suggest wait untill chapter 3 would be fully released, play it and then drop until you wish continue to play not for the porn stuff.
 
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