Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[Dc345]

On the topic of rape does, Tsubasa want Sensei to rape her/Niki her(reffering to Otoha cuck scene)? She keeps meddling in Sensei's affairs and when he tells her to stop she asks if there are any consequences. Could this be her pushing Sensei to the point where he gets fed up to the point where he has her way with her?

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

On the topic of rape does, Tsubasa want Sensei to rape her/Niki her(reffering to Otoha cuck scene)? She keeps meddling in Sensei's affairs and when he tells her to stop she asks if there are any consequences. Could this be her pushing Sensei to the point where he gets fed up to the point where he has her way with her?

There's definitely something creepy about Tsubasa and it's more than just "offering" her daughters.
The fact that she is offering them, and the amount of interest she has for him, she might be onto the fact that Akira's family must have some kind of special sperm and might want a child with him. Perhaps she is too old to conceive one so the task must go down to her daughters.
There's also no way that Tsubasa is oblivious to her "Tree" being special, specially if her family has had it for hundreds of years, she must know a lot about the "world" they're in and is looking to get something out of Akira, he is after all more powerful than he thinks he is.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

The only Wiki mainteiner left the project, cest la vie. If Selebus wouldn't be able to fix this for a while, I gonna create my own one. If you are looking for chapter 4 event requirements, you can see my scheme here

Must be a very recent thing, although that does explain why some scenes from 0.39 have no scene description/overview as well, and I just use the wiki to see if the trivia parts, as those are important bits of information, and sometimes to know the name of a music track, I use the guide mod for scene requirements.

If you do end up making your own wiki, please make it similar in layout as the current one, as it has all the necessary information for every scene.

 

[JelF547]

If you do end up making your own wiki, please make it similar in layout as the current one, as it has all the necessary information for every scene.

It's not my primary point of interest, but I'll see what can be improved when (if) I'll do what I want to. At least I intend to make it community-maintained

 

[hario1225]

So Sensei is basically Quagmire from Family Guy

 

[barglenarglezous]

Well crap... these are the same answers I used and I still get kicked out. But maybe I mistyped.. thanks

You will get kicked out (for "cheating") if you go straight to the answers without watching the hidden scene. Click through the other options until you find the hidden scene, then use the same answers.

 

[Crazynutso]

So Sensei is basically Quagmire from Family Guy

aren't all guys in anime basically Quagmire?

 

[Comiies]

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[DarkDaemonX]

It's not my primary point of interest, but I'll see what can be improved when (if) I'll do what I want to. At least I intend to make it community-maintained

Make sure to get moderators who review any edits before they become public though.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

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Almost like sitting at a table to play blackjack only to find everyone else is actually playing poker.

 

[DeSkel15]

On the topic of rape does, Tsubasa want Sensei to rape her/Niki her(reffering to Otoha cuck scene)? She keeps meddling in Sensei's affairs and when he tells her to stop she asks if there are any consequences. Could this be her pushing Sensei to the point where he gets fed up to the point where he has her way with her?

I'm not sure if it's her that Tsubasa wants Sensei to lose himself on...exactly.

There could be cameras in that apartment that Sensei got from Touka, and Tsubasa already has checked out Sensei's room while he wasn't around (not to mention spied on him and Chika before). Frankly, her getting Chika, Chinami, and Tsukasa (and probably Yasu, albeit that might be more Touka's idea) all in that building with Sensei, could imply she's wanting a certain form of entertainment.

Not to mention possibly blackmail. If she wanted, she could have recordings of Sensei and New Maya, now.

Tsubasa seems like a bored horny voyeur in a way, that's definitely sexually frustrated:

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She however treats Sensei more as a puppet than a threat or love interest, albeit she does claim to want more of an equal relationship with him.

In reality, she may just want a main character for her steamy soap opera...

 

[Moonflare]

I'm not sure if it's her that Tsubasa wants Sensei to lose himself on...exactly.

There could be cameras in that apartment that Sensei got from Touka, and Tsubasa already has checked out Sensei's room while he wasn't around (not to mention spied on him and Chika before). Frankly, her getting Chika, Chinami, and Tsukasa (and probably Yasu, albeit that might be more Touka's idea) all in that building with Sensei, could imply she's wanting a certain form of entertainment.

Not to mention possibly blackmail. If she wanted, she could have recordings of Sensei and New Maya, now.

Tsubasa seems like a bored horny voyeur in a way, that's definitely sexually frustrated:

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She however treats Sensei more as a puppet than a threat or love interest, albeit she does claim to want more of an equal relationship with him.

In reality, she may just want a main character for her steamy soap opera...

While I agree, I think that if that's all then it's weak storytelling. She doesn't need blackmail, because she could have him arrested on the grounds that she is a witness to him having sex with minors. Her money and connections would bridge any gap in regards of proof. If she needs a blackmail that doesn't put him in jail, she could simply say she'll get him fired and without money (in her view) he can't provide for Ami.

It doesn't really fit that she would have Akira have sex with Touka/Tsukasa/Yasu for blackmail, or even amusement for that matter (because she overall seemed to want to manipulate things to a "better" outcome, like she's a matriarch fixing people's lives without them knowing). Her rationale of "let's have Touka have her heart broken in a 'safe' manner, by falling in love with someone I can control and therefore won't be harmful to the family", while bizarre, follows logic.

Her putting Tsukasa in danger on a whim does not. I think that's where most people started scratching their heads. You can argue that Touka has enough maturity to choose for herself to pursue a sexual relationship (while still a crime), but Tsukasa absolutely does not. So what is this about? Is she trying to "help" Akira by putting him into a situation that he fears, and then proving he's able to control himself? Why would she care though, and why risk her daughter in doing so? Tsukasa may be "disposable", but even then it doesn't fit that Tsubasa wouldn't care about having one of her daughters sexually assaulted while being a kid (if anything for her family reputation of having to deal with a broken person). Also, I don't really buy into Tsukasa's view of her mother not caring about her - cause if she didn't, she wouldn't put up with Tsukasa as much as she does.

In fact, about Tsukasa specifically, I'm not saying her problems aren't real, they certainly are. But you can view it from the other side: Touka has to deal with all the pressure of being the heir (and being a woman when they wanted a man). Tsukasa has been freed from that. What she views as neglect is also a privilege. It's both things, and that's why it makes it even harder for Tsubasa to deal with it, since the one that has all the responsability thrust upon her (Touka) behaves as a sane person, while the one that doesn't have responsabilities behaves as a brat. You can see the gap between how the two of them view the same situation when Tsubasa has Akira in her office and Tsukasa yells at her. She calls off the meeting and seems honestly hurt by the situation, following it by going after her supposed "spare".

Tangent aside, I hope Tsubasa is being influenced by the tree or has another angle, because her actions since the Tsukasa thing stopped making sense for me, and for a lot of people I'd wager.

 

[DeSkel15]

While I agree, I think that if that's all then it's weak storytelling. She doesn't need blackmail, because she could have him arrested on the grounds that she is a witness to him having sex with minors. Her money and connections would bridge any gap in regards of proof. If she needs a blackmail that doesn't put him in jail, she could simply say she'll get him fired and without money (in her view) he can't provide for Ami.

It doesn't really fit that she would have Akira have sex with Touka/Tsukasa/Yasu for blackmail, or even amusement for that matter (because she overall seemed to want to manipulate things to a "better" outcome, like she's a matriarch fixing people's lives without them knowing). Her rationale of "let's have Touka have her heart broken in a 'safe' manner, by falling in love with someone I can control and therefore won't be harmful to the family", while bizarre, follows logic.

Her putting Tsukasa in danger on a whim does not. I think that's where most people started scratching their heads. You can argue that Touka has enough maturity to choose for herself to pursue a sexual relationship (while still a crime), but Tsukasa absolutely does not. So what is this about? Is she trying to "help" Akira by putting him into a situation that he fears, and then proving he's able to control himself? Why would she care though, and why risk her daughter in doing so? Tsukasa may be "disposable", but even then it doesn't fit that Tsubasa wouldn't care about having one of her daughters sexually assaulted while being a kid (if anything for her family reputation of having to deal with a broken person). Also, I don't really buy into Tsukasa's view of her mother not caring about her - cause if she didn't, she wouldn't put up with Tsukasa as much as she does.

In fact, about Tsukasa specifically, I'm not saying her problems aren't real, they certainly are. But you can view it from the other side: Touka has to deal with all the pressure of being the heir (and being a woman when they wanted a man). Tsukasa has been freed from that. What she views as neglect is also a privilege. It's both things, and that's why it makes it even harder for Tsubasa to deal with it, since the one that has all the responsability thrust upon her (Touka) behaves as a sane person, while the one that doesn't have responsabilities behaves as a brat. You can see the gap between how the two of them view the same situation when Tsubasa has Akira in her office and Tsukasa yells at her. She calls off the meeting and seems honestly hurt by the situation, following it by going after her supposed "spare".

Tangent aside, I hope Tsubasa is being influenced by the tree or has another angle, because her actions since the Tsukasa thing stopped making sense for me, and for a lot of people I'd wager.

It's not about needing blackmail. It's about having the power to make it.

Tsukasa is definitely just a spare, though. She's valuable in that she's the only spare, but a spare nevertheless.

There's a reason AUTO-PILOT noted that Tsubasa has corrupting sludge in her veins, and Tsukasa is disposable:

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Tsukasa is, of course, far more valuable than any Non-Tsukioka (besides maybe the more interesting ones like Sensei), but she's still just a failsafe. Tsubasa only seems to truly care about the "greater good":

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Presumably her and Touka, in particular.

Sensei probably just entertains Tsubasa like Yasu or Tsuneyo entertains him. Or like Tsubasa put it:

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He's interesting. Tsukasa is presumably being used as a way to make him more so.

 

[aramaug]

Here are my mildly interesting observations (and a few jokes) from the second half of Chapter 1.

Spoiler: Too many Ami's

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Spoiler: Ami & the world

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Spoiler: Ami acting

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Spoiler: Ayane's child

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Spoiler: Ayane marriage

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Spoiler: layers of Hell

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Spoiler: color machine

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Spoiler: reset check marks

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Spoiler: Maki

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Spoiler: Maya & Ami's parents

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Spoiler: Maya & heaven

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Spoiler: Molly foreshadowing

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Spoiler: Molly beats up a child

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Spoiler: Sana & voices

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Spoiler: Sana's eye

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Spoiler: Todd

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Spoiler: Tsuneyo

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Spoiler: Great Pareidolia Mall

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There were a couple of things that I intended to include in this post but forgot about, so I'll add them on here.

Spoiler: Futaba & Pareidolia

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Spoiler: Bluejay

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[Bingoogus]

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Hey, that's my favorite show! I can watch it for hours...

 

[DeSkel15]

Hey, that's my favorite show! I can watch it for hours...

Noriko and Sensei probably did, long ago:

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I'm not sure what's going on with this show, but it's likely not good...

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Some people might disagree with me, but if Tsubasa is doing all of this, literally just for "shits and giggles" I think that would be good writing. Not every character needs to have a complex backstory or reason to do bad stuff, just like freeza in dragonball for example.
Maybe she literally is just a bored and sexually frustrated woman and she gets the kicks tortuing mentally an attractive man she wants to fuck.

That being said, I do believe she has important ulterior motives, the Tsukioka tree almost confirms that Tsubasa must know at least a tiny bit about what their world really is.

There was a point in the story were Tsubasa reconsidered for a brief moment "giving" Tsukasa instead of Touka to Akira, because she thought that maybe he wasn't interested in a "teen", she thought that maybe he wanted someone even younger.
If you really push it, you could think that she knows Akira can have magical children and wants her daughters to make an offspring with him no matter which one of them.

 

[aramaug]

Tsukasa is, of course, far more valuable than any Non-Tsukioka (besides maybe the more interesting ones like Sensei), but she's still just a failsafe. Tsubasa only seems to truly care about the "greater good":

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Presumably her and Touka, in particular.

What I think of whenever I see that line:

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[UrbanFiction]

I haven’t completed it yet, but so far I’m very appreciative for the devs effort into writing and storytelling. Story is subjective, some will say it’s bad some will say it’s good, but it’s great it’s there and not just a game put out for fapping

 

[Bingoogus]

I haven’t completed it yet, but so far I’m very appreciative for the devs effort into writing and storytelling. Story is subjective, some will say it’s bad some will say it’s good, but it’s great it’s there and not just a game put out for fapping

That has to be the most annoying signature i've seen yet, and there are numerous contenders... it's just way too fast, distracting without giving you a chance to examine the contents... straight to the filtered elements list on my ad blocker.