Nadekai

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She's the kind of person who will repeatedly have sex with the catatonic family member she's supposed to be taking care of, so there's that. I'd say the apple didn't fall far from the tree. It was also implied she would cut off Sensei's best asset if he keeps putting it in other people.
But... what if I am a good uncle and I never decided to mess her organs up?
 

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But... what if I am a good uncle and I never decided to mess her organs up?
I have not played the good uncle route but I'm pretty sure it plays out the same way. She grapes him while he's out of it regardless. Good uncle is non-canon anyway.
 

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Telling someone about the resets is a trigger for them to recover their memories. Akira tells Makoto about them and that's when she gets the idea to jump. If not for that, she'd have probably just kissed him. But the game was rigged from the start, because even before all that Akira says he's feeling callous that night.

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Final thoughts: I don't remember what she says about all this, or if HOPE mentions her in the future, haven't made it there in my replay, but going off of this, she seemed to have given herself to HOPE and got a really bad deal out of it. Dude didn't even had the decency to erase her memories when he put her back.

I can't reallly pinpoint just how much insight she gained throughout the scene, or after the incident until the second reset. She was definitely depressed, but I find it very hard to believe that she would ask Akira to be a witness to her suicide out of the blue, in a world where her father still lived.
Well I'm not sure about the mechanics behind it but it seems like Sel had always planned for her to give up and die.

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That said, what matters is ultimately your interpretation and honestly I wouldn't really be surprised if Sel decided to retcon his original intent. But here it is in case you are curious.
 
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But... what if I am a good uncle and I never decided to mess her organs up?
GU Ami milks Sensei with their prepared sextoy, to the best of her ability, trying to get the demons out of him.

The sanity pack is still a thing in either route:
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Ami just isn't allowed to use her own body over the 2 months, in the GU route.
 

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GU Ami milks Sensei with their prepared sextoy, to the best of her ability, trying to get the demons out of him.

The sanity pack is still a thing in either route:
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Ami just isn't allowed to use her own body over the 2 months, in the GU route.
I want a sanity pack too :oops:
 

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I want a sanity pack too :oops:
Hopefully you don't need one... the bucket is for Sensei's waste. Ami was helping him go the bathroom when she wasn't feeding, milking, or securing him. (Or reading him bedtime stories, etc.)
 

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You will get an event for Otoha called "Taint the Sapling" - it will offer you a choice:
This was the one time in the game where I couldn't go through with the all content route. It just felt so fucked.

I hated Otoha in my first playthrough and it was chore just looking at her face, then the game presents me with the choice to give her a nude of Niki, the same person she assaulted in order to cheat on Rin which is (maybe) the one person Akira hasn't broken trust with in any shape or form thus far.

I cooled my head and went back to get it, since it will probably change nothing anyway (in regards to harming Niki's career or even if she finds out she's already bound to Akira anyway, this would change shit). But yeah, hated doing that.
 

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This was the one time in the game where I couldn't go through with the all content route. It just felt so fucked.

I hated Otoha in my first playthrough and it was chore just looking at her face, then the game presents me with the choice to give her a nude of Niki, the same person she assaulted in order to cheat on Rin which is (maybe) the one person Akira hasn't broken trust with in any shape or form thus far.

I cooled my head and went back to get it, since it will probably change nothing anyway (in regards to harming Niki's career or even if she finds out she's already bound to Akira anyway, this would change shit). But yeah, hated doing that.
I like Otoha but she is absolutely way less "cool" than she pretends to be. She's still no Nodoka though.

But yes, I did the same. I will wait to see what the outcome is before I enable that/see it and then undo it lol

Neither Rin nor Niki deserve that.

But still POOR KARIN *sob noises*
 

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I like Otoha but she is absolutely way less "cool" than she pretends to be. She's still no Nodoka though.

But yes, I did the same. I will wait to see what the outcome is before I enable that/see it and then undo it lol

Neither Rin nor Niki deserve that.

But still POOR KARIN *sob noises*
Niki is bad.

Anyways, why do people hate Otoha and Nodoka?
 
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This was the one time in the game where I couldn't go through with the all content route. It just felt so fucked.

I hated Otoha in my first playthrough and it was chore just looking at her face, then the game presents me with the choice to give her a nude of Niki, the same person she assaulted in order to cheat on Rin which is (maybe) the one person Akira hasn't broken trust with in any shape or form thus far.

I cooled my head and went back to get it, since it will probably change nothing anyway (in regards to harming Niki's career or even if she finds out she's already bound to Akira anyway, this would change shit). But yeah, hated doing that.
I couldn’t go through with it either. I like Niki too much to betray her like that.

All else fails, if content is locked behind this choice and I made the wrong decision, I can just use URM to change the variable. Easy fix.

But for now, I don’t mind not having some extra pics in my in game phone.
 
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Counter-argument: Niki is good.
Niki is probably the ultimate girl in this game we don't deserve - like I fully think Noriko is still suffering a load of shit she shouldn't but Niki is quite literally clawing us back from the brink at the moment.

Niki is the GOAT. Plus as much as I adore Chika, god Niki's sex scenes are some "I need a few minutes" level of distraction.

Also, uh oh - at some point Chika's gonna learn and this is gonna be spicy.

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DeSkel15

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This was the one time in the game where I couldn't go through with the all content route. It just felt so fucked.

I hated Otoha in my first playthrough and it was chore just looking at her face, then the game presents me with the choice to give her a nude of Niki, the same person she assaulted in order to cheat on Rin which is (maybe) the one person Akira hasn't broken trust with in any shape or form thus far.

I cooled my head and went back to get it, since it will probably change nothing anyway (in regards to harming Niki's career or even if she finds out she's already bound to Akira anyway, this would change shit). But yeah, hated doing that.
Frankly, I wouldn't be too surprised if Rin just gave Sensei a nude if he asked. She doesn't seem to mind flashing him or him using her socks apparently. They could probably trade nudes.

Otoha can get something probably thousands of people would kill for, and get it just for a Rin pic. No offense to Rin, but it just doesn't seem like a good deal, which even Otoha seemed to point out.

Sensei loves to make things more difficult than necessary.

Niki is bad.

Anyways, why do people hate Otoha and Nodoka?
Otoha hurt Rin, Nodoka hurt Yumi. Their fans don't like that. (More or less)

I've never liked Otoha, though... and I have a history:
Liar:
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Etc.

Otoha is an extremely shitty person, which she's aware of:
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Yet instead of improving, she just wants to rationalize and move past it:
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Even the likes of Kirin, and Yumi, are at least trying to become better people. So, even Otoha's one pathetic excuse for her actions: "we're just teenagers" is utterly bullshit, which everyone knows. We've all been teenagers and unless you're lying to yourself, you know, it's no excuse. Otoha just disgusts me as a human being so far, and there's nothing I find particularly likable about her.

Worst of all though, I find her boring as fuck. I feel like everything she brings to the table is done by more interesting characters. Even her "Little Brother" and presumably shotacon stuff is done better by Sekai. One thing actually unique to Otoha is her hitting her girlfriend, and that's not really something I want to see.

I personally wouldn't really care if she got fridged. I mean I would, but it'd be more like "It's about time", than "Oh, NOtoha!" or whatever, lmao.

Edit: In retrospect, I wouldn't mind Nodoka's suggestion either:
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Although, Voyeur Big Sis Otoha has at least made her more interesting lately. (Or I'm just weak)
 

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Etc.

Otoha is an extremely shitty person, which she's aware of:
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Yet instead of improving, she just wants to rationalize and move past it:
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Even the likes of Kirin, and Yumi, are at least trying to become better people. So, even Otoha's one pathetic excuse for her actions: "we're just teenagers" is utterly bullshit, which everyone knows. We've all been teenagers and unless you're lying to yourself, you know, it's no excuse. Otoha just disgusts me as a human being so far, and there's nothing I find particularly likable about her.

Worst of all though, I find her boring as fuck. I feel like everything she brings to the table is done by more interesting characters. Even her "Little Brother" and presumably shotacon stuff is done better by Sekai. One thing actually unique to Otoha is her hitting her girlfriend, and that's not really something I want to see.

I personally wouldn't really care if she got fridged. I mean I would, but it'd be more like "It's about time", than "Oh, NOtoha!" or whatever, lmao.

Edit: In retrospect, I wouldn't mind Nodoka's suggestion either:
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Perfect woman
 
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