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For me, the one I found annoying and boring in my first playthrough was Ayane and it's still Ayane. DesKel pointed out some points making it seem like she was confident in challenging Kirin and Ami, but I have to disagree, for me it showed how weak Ayane is, Ayane didn't have any courage to face Kirin and she just did That's when she found out about the reset, knowing that she would have protection for something, and in Ami's case it was the same thing, she had the courage to talk to Ami or even look at her because she had been informed by Maya that Ami had already killed her, showing that she was not 100% protected and she only went to confront Ami when she received help from Himawari informing her that nothing would happen to her and that she was 100% protected, showing again that Ayane does not have the courage to do something if she thinks something is going to happen to her.

In short: Ayane, for me, is weak because she doesn't have the courage to do something because she fears the consequences and she only does it when she knows that nothing will happen to her. (In my view she looks like those characters who bully someone just because their father is rich or the director's son since they are not afraid of the consequences since they are 100% sure that nothing will happen to them, and when They know that there are some consequences for their actions, they don't do them out of fear, for me Ayane is like someone like that, someone who is a coward)
Ayane being a coward is a unique take.Hell i can see it myself.As you said she only lashed out at Kirin and Ami only because she is confident that whatever they do to her wont leave a permanent scar.

For me though i like to see this in a more charitable light.You can say that Ayane is a coward,yes and especially after the """threesome""" scene with Kirin i will could in theory agree with you but ill be using that exact scene for why i dont agree with that.I believe that the biggest reason that Ayane managed to do what she did is because now,with a "Get out of jail free" card that the resets represent she is sure that no permanent Harm can come to Sensei.The girls can do what they want but once everything resets nothing will matter.That means that A)She can do whatever she wants with Sensei since nothing matters and B)Her possessiveness of him now has the perfect conditions to bloom.TLDR she is a coward but i believe the reason why she "grew some balls" and did what she did is because the only thing that matters to her is secured.
 
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Did you guys have any characters that you radically changed your opinions on during the course of the game/on replay?
Maya. At first, I liked her cuz of her "uniquness". Alas, at the third chapter I stop liking her.

Noriko... It went from "I dislike her" to "Oh dear, oh gorgeous".

Yasu. I was genuinely afraid of her when she joined the class. Now I think of her as a really sweet and cute girl.

Nodoka. Gosh, I liked her... But then a lot of shit happened, so... people here know how much I "like" her,xd.
 

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I definitely didn't intend to imply that Ayane was brave. She hides her true feelings and thoughts, and only "fights back" when she knows she will win. She's already rich, and has training in karate, with Osako noting she's good, yet only after knowing she had supernatural advantages has she actually faced her problems. Mostly with violence upon those who can't hurt her.

She's also still pretending she doesn't remember being pregnant and losing it, like Long Maya pointed out:
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And is still hiding that she was bullying Ami, from Sensei:
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Sensei didn't like when Otoha slapped Rin (His pseudo daughter), so I'm curious what Sensei would say if he found out Ayane (Another pseudo daughter) slapped Ami (Possibly his actual daughter), now that he seems to finally be trying to give a shit about Ami.

Then again, Prince Ami might be trying to fuck Ayane at this point, and Ayane is probably struggling to have control over anything at the moment, so...
Oh yea also fingers crossed but i need Prince Ami threesomes
 

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Could anyone here remind me please as to which event it is in which Makoto gets the marriage license? It's a story beat I just can't remember happening at all and it's been mentioned repeatedly in the most recent events I've viewed as I try to catch up with updates 40 and 41.

Guessing it'll be the encyclopedic DeSkel who'll be most likely to have the answer at their fingertips.(y)
 

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Could anyone here remind me please as to which event it is in which Makoto gets the marriage license? It's a story beat I just can't remember happening at all and it's been mentioned repeatedly in the most recent events I've viewed as I try to catch up with updates 40 and 41.

Guessing it'll be the encyclopedic DeSkel who'll be most likely to have the answer at their fingertips.(y)
She tricks him into signing it in Young Cardinals, but it's not revealed until Suffer The Same
 

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Im about 80 something percent sure Chapter 4 is going to continue into 2025. Considering there is no large event chain to end the year and with the first reset possibly being in 0.44. Also with Sel saying this is going to be the longest chapter in the game Chapter may possibly continue into the next year.
Okay so the game probably isn't gonna end any time soon, in that case I'll just play through the v0.35 I downloaded way back when and then just play the full game when it's done.
Care packages stopped being a thing in some version right? Which version was that?
 

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Okay so the game probably isn't gonna end any time soon, in that case I'll just play through the v0.35 I downloaded way back when and then just play the full game when it's done.
Care packages stopped being a thing in some version right? Which version was that?
Care packages weren't version bound and aren't canon.
 
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Is there an limited number of days?
Nope, the days are infinite, although there are events that need XX days and XXX days to trigger, either way don't worry about the amount of days but instead worry about the order of certain (not alot just a few from time to time) events you do (and options) to not miss events, well that is if you're on a 100% playthrough, if not then you can do them without order.
 
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And is still hiding that she was bullying Ami, from Sensei [...]

Sensei didn't like when Otoha slapped Rin (His pseudo daughter), so I'm curious what Sensei would say if he found out Ayane (Another pseudo daughter) slapped Ami (Possibly his actual daughter), now that he seems to finally be trying to give a shit about Ami.
Ayane being a "coward" and only fighting when she knows she's got supernatural backing is one thing (that I don't necessarily agree with, but can see), but saying that she was bullying Ami is way too far for me. Ami's behavior upon being slapped, and the way she reacts later, isn't cohesive with a weak girl behaving so that her bully doesn't mistreat her.
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???????

The second symposium is a FUTABA EVENT? Ok, I was not expecting that. I guess DeSkel is going to have a party with Futaba being more relevant now. Also, I wonder who's going to be the third then. Since it was Noriko first, now Futaba, who will be the third girl.

Also, this kind of throws a wrench into the plan of having Noriko joining the RAS (or at least saving Maya by herself), since she'll probably just have one supernatural event rather than three. If it follows the pattern of one symposium per update, then the next one would be one of these girls:
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I guess either Sana, Makoto or Yumi would make the most sense. But if it follows the idea of involving a girl in the supernatural that wasn't before, then we'd have Chika, Touka, Miku or Karin. I wonder if it's Touka, since Selebus mentioned a possible animation between her and Yasu, and that'd have to be something supernatural to make that happen imo.
 
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Besides them, my opinions on the characters haven't really changed all that much since the start. The Io stuff was predictable. Sana didn't surprise me at all. Even figured she'd say "Machamp". Ami is Ami. Uta is Uta. Yasu is Yasu. Sensei is Sensei. Etc. Most of these characters are somewhat predictable, in a good way, imo.
Huh.

Not being particularly savvy to anime/manga or denpa tropes, I *was* surprised by all of them. Sana especially. Loved her when she was just a little bundle of sweet — still love her now that she’s revealed her inner freak, but I have anti say, she’s a bit terrifying as well.
 

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???????

The second symposium is a FUTABA EVENT? Ok, I was not expecting that. I guess DeSkel is going to have a party with Futaba being more relevant now. Also, I wonder who's going to be the third then. Since it was Noriko first, now Futaba, who will be the third girl.

Also, this kind of throws a wrench into the plan of having Noriko joining the RAS, since she'll probably just have one supernatural event rather than three. If it follows the pattern of one symposium per update, then the next one would be one of these girls:
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I guess either Sana, Makoto or Yumi would make the most sense. But if it follows the idea of involving a girl in the supernatural that wasn't before, then we'd have Chika, Touka, Miku or Karin. I wonder if it's Touka, since Selebus mentioned a possible animation between her and Yasu, and that'd have to be something supernatural to make that happen imo.
I mean, Sana makes sense, since she’s the supposed face of the chapter. And she’s gone through the biggest transformation — both in herself and in the others’ view of her. Not sure, though…
 
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???????

The second symposium is a FUTABA EVENT? Ok, I was not expecting that. I guess DeSkel is going to have a party with Futaba being more relevant now. Also, I wonder who's going to be the third then. Since it was Noriko first, now Futaba, who will be the third girl.

Also, this kind of throws a wrench into the plan of having Noriko joining the RAS (or at least saving Maya by herself), since she'll probably just have one supernatural event rather than three. If it follows the pattern of one symposium per update, then the next one would be one of these girls:
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I guess either Sana, Makoto or Yumi would make the most sense. But if it follows the idea of involving a girl in the supernatural that wasn't before, then we'd have Chika, Touka, Miku or Karin. I wonder if it's Touka, since Selebus mentioned a possible animation between her and Yasu, and that'd have to be something supernatural to make that happen imo.
I'm saying Chika has a higher chance than Touka since Chika she's gonna be bluejaying or something similar, Makoto had a bit of supernatural during her crazy periods so having the third TSS be her thing after 42v will be quite a scene, but this is all based on what happens during 42v and can also just not happen in 43v considering something else...

The third one could be
Touka's if we follow some sort of pattern with the characters getting TSS'd, I cannot elaborate since I can't put my finger on that idea since god damn, it is extremely blurry, but there's some similarity between Noriko and Futa that's causing me that blurry idea.

Now off to what might be the
WORST possibility if it happens, Miku, she seems a bit too fragile to handle getting TSS'd imo.
It's up to someone else if they want to theorize what might make her have the chance to get there.
 

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Ayane being a "coward" and only fighting when she knows she's got supernatural backing is one thing (that I don't necessarily agree with, but can see), but saying that she was bullying Ami is way too far for me. Ami's behavior upon being slapped, and the way she reacts later, isn't cohesive with a weak girl behaving so that her bully doesn't mistreat her.
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Ayane literally threatened to keep hitting Ami if she didn't do what she wanted:
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Not to mention lying straight to her face while trying to gaslight her. That's the bullying I'm referring to.

Nothing Ami did, earned physical violence. Ayane let herself be left out in the woods. It was part of the dorm wars, that she could have forfeited. Even being there overnight wasn't on Ami. That was on the Shapeshifter.

On top of this, it's pretty clear why Ami acted the way she did:
Ayane, Maya, and Sensei are trying to keep Ami from finding out about the resets, and continously do things behind her back that she can't ignore throughout Chapter 3.

For example, Ayane "borderline" kidnaps Sensei right in front of Ami while she has to work in Ayane's 'How The World Works' Chapter 3 Event:
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Ayane and Maya also seemed to start hanging out without Ami, including at the Shrine:
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and basically since the beginning of Chapter 3, Ami made it rather clear she noticed they were acting different:
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Even Tsuneyo seemed to pick up that Ayane changed:
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Albeit, she's far more perceptive than she let's on.

Overall: This all seemed to translate to Ami thinking that her friends are intentionally leaving her out of things, which well, they were, and they are not exactly good at hiding it.
And Ayane definitely was not treating Ami as an "equal" nor was Ami considering her one (she had prior probably, but not since then). Ayane literally bossed her around to the point that it worried Sensei, so much that he brought it up twice in that brief timespan. Ayane is still hiding this from Sensei for a reason.

Ayane isn't just a coward, or a bully, but a cowardly bully, tbh.

Of course, if Ami didn't just let her have her way, Ayane probably wouldn't be able to. After Maya scared Ayane, Ami wanted Ayane back, and even could offer sharing Sensei with her to mend their friendship:
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Allowing Ayane to bully her was what Ami had to do, to keep Ayane (and probably Sensei) happy in her eyes. Which is toxic, but Ami is the kind of person who casually helped Sensei shit in a bucket for 2 months. She's used to shitty situations.

Nevertheless, Ayane is the kind of person that'll choke, and hit others to get her way. Not to mention the whole having sex on the beds of her friends cause she's a horrible person stuff.

Btw, Ayane has had Ami and Sensei since she was 11 (her mother left around then), and likely Geoffrey as well. She's never actually been alone. Ami has literally been there to let her sleep on her:
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And if she needs someone whose very existence relies on her, to not feel alone, that somewhat speaks for itself.
 
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