Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.44.0] [Selebus]

[Breadtaker]

What empathy are you referring to exactly? Ayane's rather bad at understanding others or even thinking of things from another's point of view. For example, she used to think of Sensei as "lawful good":

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Ami actually treated Ayane better than she deserved, imo. Letting Ayane sleep on her:

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Checking up on Ayane when she's not feeling well:

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And basically being there for her since she was 11:

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Maya on the other hand is kind of true. She only really cares about two people besides herself, Ami and Sensei, and she's betrayed Ami's trust for years. Maya doesn't have much reason to care about Ayane, unless food or Sensei is involved, though. She seems to like Sana more, tbh.

Sensei being lawful good is probably just flattery.

I don't think empathy is necessarily about being accurate. It's about being able to feel the emotions you perceive other people having. Ayane has that in spades. Her recent card to Sensei is a good example of that. The way she talks about maya at the end of it isn't something she would say if she were thinking exclusively about her own self interests or if she were inconsiderate of others. She speculates on their relationship and practically encourages it because it might bring comfort to two people who she thinks are hurting. She has her own ambitions and problems sure, but her actions are easily influenced by how others feel. At least when she picks up on those feelings. Which is why she does nothing to stop or even discourage Ami, Maya, or Sana from pursuing sensei.

When maya's callousness comes to bear during reset related topics, Ayane is quick to take issue because she sympathizes with other people. Even if you just watch her expressions in most events her concern for others is obvious.

Ami I have a hard time understanding. When Ayane called her out for being manipulative and fake, I thought she was out of line. But then Ami kind of just admitted to it? It implies that shes just some sort of psychopath who is only acting a role. Even if that's not entirely accurate, the amount of disdain she shows Ayane in chapter 4 makes it really hard to believe she cares about anything but Sensei.

 

[spartannnnnnn]

Well, I've finished chapter 2 and had a few events in chapter3. I think I got a somewhat wild hypothesis that HOPE is quite similar to the Reapers in Mass Effect. It seems like HOPE tend to harvest the emotion or memories, while Reapers harvest existence. Because HOPE always wanted Sensei to devote himself to it. It's just my dumb hypothesis. Hope someone can help me out.

 

[Xiondingens]

Even if that's not entirely accurate, the amount of disdain she shows Ayane in chapter 4 makes it really hard to believe she cares about anything but Sensei.

I am not even sure she even cares much about Sensei as a person. But more as a appendage to her.

 

[JelF547]

Spoiler: 0.41-0.45 Events

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Spoiler: Event distribution for 0.45

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Spoiler: Adittional Purity Route Info.

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Interesting. RN we have two full event cycles: 0.36-0.41 every character and in 0.42-0.45 every character except Rin has at least one event. My initial estimation had resets at 0.41 and 0.47, but it would be just 12 patches / 240 events which would make this chapter the shortes one.

Upd: FYI longest chapter - chapter 2 - contained 322 events. Chapter 4 would have ~200 events by the end of year.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Hey, smart boys, I just download URM. So... How to use URM to become Rin's true homie, see other scenes with Yumi and Nodoka in the locker room and how to change the value (or whatever is this) about Yumi knowing if Chika is in love with Sensei?
Like, what exactly I should find, change, etc.
P.s.: I may sound stupid, but bruh, I never told you I was smart.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Hey, smart boys, I just download URM. So... How to use URM to become Rin's true homie, see other scenes with Yumi and Nodoka in the locker room and how to change the value (or whatever is this) about Yumi knowing if Chika is in love with Sensei?
Like, what exactly I should find, change, etc.
P.s.: I may sound stupid, but bruh, I never told you I was smart.

The variable to be a Good Homie for Rin is ‘rinbetrayed’. Set it to False. The variable for Yumi knowing if you’re in love with Chika is ‘yumiknows’. Set that to False also (kinda confusing, because it more alludes to her knowing you fucked Chika at the Onsen).

As far as unlocking the scene with Nodoka and Yumi in the locker room, type in the search bar ‘nodokaspecial15’, and some choices should come up. They should be labeled p1, p2 and p3 respectively. Set them to True, and set the one labeled with skip to False. It should unlock.

 

[Xiondingens]

I am not sure this is the best use of URM. I mean my savegame is already quite a mess of changed variables and edis and such. But even i did stay away from such major things. Too worried that it would work for a while, only to just totally fall appart suddenly.

 

[Bingoogus]

Too worried that it would work for a while, only to just totally fall appart suddenly.

So then just use the URM to fix it, if you don't know how, ask here, even though i am the URM's loudest pitchman, others here far outstrip my knowledge of how to use it, as shown by Zuko just now. The main benefit of the URM imo is that just before a choice or flag is triggered, one screen before it, a little tab appears in the corner with what is about to be checked, letting you know how your save is going to make things go down and if it isn't going to go the way you want, you can then change it.

 

[Xiondingens]

We already had this disuccion and i already said i would use it in that case and also blame some guy called Bingoogus if it wouldnt work. I dont know, may have heard of the guy, he is around here sometimes.

 

[Bingoogus]

We already had this disuccion and i already said i would use it in that case and also blame some guy called Bingoogus if it wouldnt work. I dont know, may have heard of the guy, he is around here sometimes.

We did...? Well ok then, i have no memory of it but then i have a really shit memory. Also, that guy sounds like a real dickhead.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

In the middle of my second playthrough as I count down the days to 0.40, and am on Io's character event, "Amongst Other Things", and... ugh! This is gonna be reaaaalllly catastrophic foreshadowing if Io is truly 'next'.

Spoiler: Io Post

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The fact that Sensei is Io's 'last bastion of hope for adults' in the world is, quite frankly, a terrifying thought for the future. Betraying Karin's trust against our will was bad enough already recently, but for it to happen to Io? Man that'd be depressing.

 

[Xiondingens]

We did...? Well ok then, i have no memory of it but then i have a really shit memory. Also, that guy sounds like a real dickhead.

We did.

Yeah, i actually just wait for my savegame to break, because of the changes i did so far.

Edit: You know what? When that happens i will try out the URM and blame Bingoogus when even it cant fix the spaghetti code i created.

 

[Bingoogus]

We did.

You know, i may not have seen the edit, i dunno, my memory of that is very very vague. But i accept responsibility all the same. I'll make sure you get the help you need, somehow.

 

[Xiondingens]

You know, i may not have seen the edit, i dunno, my memory of that is very very vague. But i accept responsibility all the same. I'll make sure you get the help you need, somehow.

No, you have to have seen the edit, that one was done before you reacted. Unless you react hours after you did read something. So it might be possible you didnt? But the edit was done maybe a minute or two after the post and i remember you reacting long after this.

 

[Bingoogus]

No, you have to have seen the edit, that one was done before you reacted. Unless you react hours after you did read something. So it might be possible you didnt? But the edit was done maybe a minute or two after the post and i remember you reacting long after this.

hmmm... well, it doesn't matter, i don't remember either way, just thought it might explain my shit memory but then it's not like it wasn't shit to begin with. Either way, i'll honor it.

 

[Xiondingens]

It was mostly a funny ment edit anyway, so it barely matters if or if not you remember in the end. Maybe i just wanted to show off my good memory.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Fire Lord Zuko is my oshi now. Thanks for the help.

 

[Xiondingens]

Now i really feel like i missed the oshi route. Does someone know if URM works on IRL savegames?

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Spoiler: 0.41-0.45 Events

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Why is nobody talking about the fact that he already has the timeline of events for the next 6 updates including the one coming in a few days?
Is the entire script, or at least a big part of it already written in advance?

There's no way he's just being held back by coding speed OR him not finishing the game too fast on purpose just so he can drag this on for a living, right ????

Spoiler: Not happy about This too

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[Xiondingens]

There's no way he's just being held back by coding speed OR him not finishing the game too fast on purpose just so he can drag this on for a living, right ????

If i were him, i would actually always have some work done in advance. And i dont even see any problem here. So far we get a monthly release. And that one single month we wont get one this year, we are already aware of, because he told us. So i dont see any problem here either. You can criticise Sel for a lot of a things. Like not been a good person overall. But you cant really criticise him for not provinding content on a regular basis.