Xiondingens

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I finished the game, I am just not sure in which event it occurred, Earliest I remember her being hypersexual is when she got caught masturbating in a toilet...

I suppose I'll need to replay the whole game to start putting puzzle pieces together...
Oh, you have catched up? Well, better save then sorry and i dont remember the name of the event myself. I just remember it happened during the night and before all of this started with her.
 

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Oh, you have catched up? Well, better save then sorry and i dont remember the name of the event myself. I just remember it happened during the night and before all of this started with her.
I will most likely replay the whole game next time update comes rolling around so I can catch up... not fuck up any choices... understand references... and experience heart-break as I see Maya getting fucked out of existence once again..
 

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I mean that Sana has been touched by something supernatural and since that night her behaviour has changed. That was the point she started to become constantly horny and just masterbate everywhere.
If you assume, that Sana was almost caught masturbating by Sensei in , and she didn't manage to clean her hands before she invited Sensei, that scene becomes much more obvious. I think Sana always had said behaviour, it just was the first time she got caught. Himawary also told about Sana's real intentions right before alleged divine intervenrion
 
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Moonflare

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I think you guys are letting the Sel hate cloud things a bit too much. After the Io thing, pretty much every character declares Nodoka terrible. Uta, who was harassed by pedophiles as a child, calls it the most disgusting thing she's ever seen. Imani, who was okay with alligators and Death Ball in her contests, immediately kicked her out. Ayane, probably the most lawful good member of the cast, mused that maybe Yumi was justified in beating her half to death. Even Otoha was disappointed. That's not a poor misunderstood genius, that's as in the wrong as a character can be.

I wouldn't see that scene as isolated from her fight with Futaba, but rather a further illustration of how fucked up her "everything would be fine if you looked at it from my perspective" mindset is. And given how explicitly she promised not to reveal Futaba's relationship earlier, and how she calls back to the lust novel thing when breaking her promise not to have sex with Akira, I'd say that Sel intended for Nodoka to be a massive self-serving hypocrite from the beginning.
I mostly agree, and would just like to add that although we can't really exclude the possibility that Nodoka is a self-insert, I'd remind everyone that all characters are Selebus in some way. He's writing all of them after all, and it might be naive to simply consider that he embodies Nodoka's characteristics and not the ones from the other 35+ characters. I myself don't find Nodoka to be more of a self-insert than others, at least not in this sort of "power-trip insert of creating a character that is me inside of my work" because Nodoka is pointed out as heavily flawed inside the narrative.

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All in all, I just think that, at this point in time, Nodoka's a weak character, and she's mostly used as a plot device to make things happen. Reading Nodoka's events is sometimes like "what has she done now?" - and all of it is outrageous. And if every event is outrageous the character starts to become more of a device than a real thing.

Simply put, I find her character uninteresting as an individual. I just feel like Nodoka's character arc hasn't even started, there is no conflict, no growth, just a zealot hellbent on her crusade, whilst ignoring any possibility of a meaningful reevaluation of her actions. No consequences affect her, no developments really change her outlook, there's just no change in course (she just advances in perversion). Which, by the way, would be totally fine if we didn't discuss Nodoka every 5 hours, which I think is the biggest issue - and I would just not mind most of what I said if not for the overthinking.
 
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Nadekai

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Himawary also told about Sana's real intentions right before alleged divine intervenrion
Is Himawari our ally? Since she tried to protect us in 5th reset, or at least that's how I interpreted it...
Also, is it just coincidence that she looks like "Broken" Ami, but... more normal?
 

Xiondingens

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If you assume, that Sana was almost caught masturbating by Sensei in , and she didn't manage to clean her hands before she invited Sensei, that scene becomes much more obvious. I think Sana always had said behaviour, it just was the first time she got caught. Himawary also told about Sana's real intentions right before alleged divine intervenrion
I think you are right and she was, but that is still something different. That was her own dorm room. Where if not there is it okay to masterbate in peace? And just masterbating is normal. Her later behavour is not tho.
 

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Is Himawari our ally? Since she tried to protect us in 5th reset, or at least that's how I interpreted it...
of course, she even offers you ramen
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Being serious though, it depends on what an ally even is in this context. Himawari seems to have a positive outcome in mind with the things she does, and has the intent to not have Akira suffer more than necessary - So I guess she's the best ally we have so far.

As for her being broken Ami, hardly. It is implied that Akira will give her her name. Maybe she'll be Ami Arakawa the second, but for her to be an actual Ami (daughter) is doubtful.
 
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Yo speaking of weird foreshadowing:
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I hadn't thought of it before reading this, but Io and Akira do actually have incredibly similar traumas. it affects them in totally different ways, but at the same time they're also really similar. What if Io is what will gets Akira to confront his past with Sekai?
 

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You know, I'm having a real hard time seeing Wires as anything but a good guy.

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Can anyone reming me when he did anything against Akira?
I think it's Wires who's teleporting him around and sometimes wastes time... since in a few of Yasu's events wires changes the current time, and teleported both of them somewhere... but he never did anything distinctly against Akira... aside from when Pareidolia pretends to be him.


Yo speaking of weird foreshadowing:
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I hadn't thought of it before reading this, but Io and Akira do actually have incredibly similar traumas. it affects them in totally different ways, but at the same time they're also really similar. What if Io is what will gets Akira to confront his past with Sekai?
Pareidolia is just gonna make Akira traumatize Io by assaulting her, just like with Karin...
 

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Yo speaking of weird foreshadowing:
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I hadn't thought of it before reading this, but Io and Akira do actually have incredibly similar traumas. it affects them in totally different ways, but at the same time they're also really similar. What if Io is what will gets Akira to confront his past with Sekai?
Sign me up for that. It would also solve the issue with Akira having Uta's photo sort of, but I think it's probably too early for him to be talking about Sekai with anyone. I hope he does eventually though.
 

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Sign me up for that. It would also solve the issue with Akira having Uta's photo sort of, but I think it's probably too early for him to be talking about Sekai with anyone. I hope he does eventually though.
I hope in next update we'll get Uta confessing to her younger misdeeds to explain to Sensei, hoping he won't hate her...
Maybe Io revealing truth about herself...


Also, how probable is it that Akira is actual dad of Ami?
 

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I hope in next update we'll get Uta confessing to her younger misdeeds to explain to Sensei, hoping he won't hate her...
Maybe Io revealing truth about herself...


Also, how probable is it that Akira is actual dad of Ami?
Very? I mean, we have close to no info on Nozomu, so it makes more sense story-wise for her to be his daughter. They could simply have a test done, but it's unlikely for that to happen. Maybe, if she is, we'll have a confirmation via flashback or something. Obviously there must have been at least a conversation with Sekai when she got pregnant.
 

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Sign me up for that. It would also solve the issue with Akira having Uta's photo sort of, but I think it's probably too early for him to be talking about Sekai with anyone. I hope he does eventually though.
Oh yeah, I'm not expecting it terribly soon, I imagine there will be quite a bit of Io story before then, especially considering the Nodoka thing, but I also could see it working out to where the Nodoka thing is what leads to Akira talking to her about Sekai. Maybe not immediately, but there's a solid chance that Akira will freak out upon hearing what happned to Io, and Io's smart enough to understand why that would be.
 

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It's interesting to see how other people also think about Nodoka to be a Sel self insert.

Before 2nd floor, i thought that Futaba might fill that bill, while all girls might have some Sel DNA to them, not only because it's his story, but because of the mental health issues most of them have.
Since Nodoka is, as far as i know, a patreon stretch goal, like all 2nd floor girls, i think she's a Futaba t3 or something.

What made me think that way has nothing to do with what people might think of her nowadays.
For me it was about reading books.
Futaba likes to read books and they are important to her.
But Nodoka is on a different level. She not only likes to read books, she needs stories/information/input.
If she can't throw herself into another story or bit of information she goes haywire.

And thats what i associate with Sel.
If he can't distract himself with something, he "uhm", behaves certain ways.

Another thing i wanted to say is, that i wouldn't be surprised if Nodoka one day turns out to be Hope.
However that would work out, but they at least have the "Callous" thing in common.
 
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