Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.44.0] [Selebus]

[vehemental]

I uh, really don't think you're in any position to be poking fun at Sel for supposedly being childish, maniacal or narcissistic, frankly I don't think any of the regulars here who jerk each other off while mocking Sel are.

Characterizing a group of people agreeing, discussing, and laughing at each other's comments as "jerking each other off while mocking someone" when it involves a piece of "literature" as bizarre as this one that's headed by such a confrontational (and mockable) developer is really sad for you, man. Just like the other commenter, for the most part you're confusing boredom with emotional investment, even with posts as long as this one.

I'll give you two other examples of similar fandoms: Kingkiller Chronicle, whose fans talk about how the author seems more interested in doing podcasts and DnD shows than writing, and how he stiffed them out of publicly releasing a chapter of the next book that he promised as a charity goal. Or A Song of Ice and Fire fans who talk about how GRRM took time away for Elden Ring and everything else - they gave him so much shit for posting about watching the Super Bowl one time "instead of writing" that other authors stood up for him.

In those cases, people are mad about having to wait a few years to drop $10 on another book - they're not people who've paid them $5+/month for any period of time. I don't think everyone is entitled to an opinion on every topic, but I paid $70 to have one about this game, and you can't go a single page in this thread without hitting another former supporter. So if you think this community is toxic relative to virtually any other fandom, and you refuse to characterize the Discord with the same words when they mock us and "jerk each other off" with an even better reaction culture, you're being completely unreasonable, especially considering the dev in question has directly attacked the staff, the membership, and this website itself on more than one occasion now for ridiculously overblown reasons and has plans to continue.

But no, you've decided that we're all the bad guys because as a group, of course we naturally adopt the views of the most extreme members, and we all talk about literally wanting to kick him off Subscribestar and effectively end development of the game. And I suppose that posts like this one with virtually nonexistent emotional undertones are just as "childish, maniacal, and narcissistic" to you as the barely coherent ramblings he's posted.

And yeah, I responded to a sentence with an essay. It's fun, and since you made it this far, maybe it has value after all

 

[ocworld]

If you're taking that quote out of where I think you are, the purpose was directly stated in some cases to be spite.

despite that
if you look at his profile he acts like that everywhere, and before he became a little infamous person he posted just because in other threads, and "spite" sounds more like an excuse for what he's doing

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Ok something I’ve been wanting to ask

Does anyone here have a mind blowing interpretation about the upside down house and the girls inside that eat gray food?

Maybe it’s just some material purely to make you feel uneasy and thus isn’t insinuating anything, but it pops up again time after time and it really stirs my curiosity.

 

[KnowNoHope]

Saw this on Discord and don't know how to screen capture with my PC, I'm Dumb! I know, so I Copy/Paste it, glad it came out the same as it is on there...

Lessons in Love 0.32.0:

Total Events: 0/19 Complete

Main Events: 0/2 Complete
Io Events: 0/4 Complete
Yasu Events: 0/4 Complete
Haruka Events: 0/3 Complete
Maki Events: 0/3 CompleteC

É̶͒v̴̔͌e̴̔͆n̴̍̀ẗ̵́̇s̵̽̓:̶̊͂ 0/3 Complete <- Who is This?

Animations: 0/2 Complete
Character Profile: 0/1 Complete
Programming: 0/19 Complete
Proofreading/Editing: 0/19 Complete

Estimated Release Date: 7/1/23

'Windows shift s' my friend. best way to screen cap because you get to decide exactly what on screen to copy

Characterizing a group of people agreeing, discussing, and laughing at each other's comments as "jerking each other off while mocking someone" when it involves a piece of "literature" as bizarre as this one that's headed by such a confrontational (and mockable) developer is really sad for you, man. Just like the other commenter, for the most part you're confusing boredom with emotional investment, even with posts as long as this one.

I'll give you two other examples of similar fandoms: Kingkiller Chronicle, whose fans talk about how the author seems more interested in doing podcasts and DnD shows than writing, and how he stiffed them out of publicly releasing a chapter of the next book that he promised as a charity goal. Or A Song of Ice and Fire fans who talk about how GRRM took time away for Elden Ring and everything else - they gave him so much shit for posting about watching the Super Bowl one time "instead of writing" that other authors stood up for him.

In those cases, people are mad about having to wait a few years to drop $10 on another book - they're not people who've paid them $5+/month for any period of time. I don't think everyone is entitled to an opinion on every topic, but I paid $70 to have one about this game, and you can't go a single page in this thread without hitting another former supporter. So if you think this community is toxic relative to virtually any other fandom, and you refuse to characterize the Discord with the same words when they mock us and "jerk each other off" with an even better reaction culture, you're being completely unreasonable, especially considering the dev in question has directly attacked the staff, the membership, and this website itself on more than one occasion now for ridiculously overblown reasons and has plans to continue.

But no, you've decided that we're all the bad guys because as a group, of course we naturally adopt the views of the most extreme members, and we all talk about literally wanting to kick him off Subscribestar and effectively end development of the game. And I suppose that posts like this one with virtually nonexistent emotional undertones are just as "childish, maniacal, and narcissistic" to you as the barely coherent ramblings he's posted.

And yeah, I responded to a sentence with an essay. It's fun, and since you made it this far, maybe it has value after all

most of the time we only ever talk about good ol' selly when
1) the discord members stop by trying to fellate him in this thread
2) when the discord members stop by to try and troll on their own whims or on direct orders
3) when a newbie stops by and asks WTF is wrong wih sel
4)Sel trys a direct attack against this place
other than that we mainly ignore it and talk about the game itself. as for 'planning attacks'
I think I have only seen 1 person outright say something like that, almost everyone else is guessing on whats going to happen when he finally pisses off the wrong person/people and wishing he would just act normal for once.

Its so contradictory to claim we want to fuck him over and to say we are more heavily invested in the game than the people who wasted $1000's on a game made from pirated software. I honestly think the people that have paid are so heavily invested in this at this point that they have no choice but defend anything Sel does or its a giant drop in the bucket for them. he could shoot somebody and wouldn't lose these die hards. it's so bad they dont seem to realize the contradictory nature of what they are saying... I honestly wonder if its just a chat box AI talking sometimes because they show the same tendency towards holes in logic.

I wonder if this is all intentional on Sel's part. he knows what he is doing and wants someone to ruin it for him just so he can 'take the money and run' and have an available scapegoat to point fingers at. but then i remember the patreon fiasco which would have been the perfect time to do just that. I am left with the only conclusion that Sel might have borderline high functioning autism.

 

[redpenguin101]

Why were several pages nuked? Was it because of the discussion of nuking Sels monetization? Or was there some super mega ultra sperg wars going on?

 

[KnowNoHope]

Why were several pages nuked? Was it because of the discussion of nuking Sels monetization? Or was there some super mega ultra sperg wars going on?

well some of that happens but also images get removed from posts from time to time shortening the threads

 

[BlackDays]

Ok something I’ve been wanting to ask

Does anyone here have a mind blowing interpretation about the upside down house and the girls inside that eat gray food?

Maybe it’s just some material purely to make you feel uneasy and thus isn’t insinuating anything, but it pops up again time after time and it really stirs my curiosity.

Before it was revealed who Sensei's mother is by naming her, i thought the upside down house might have been an orphanage where Sensei (and maybe some other people we know) grew up in. I think those are commonly led by churches? Sekai has a cross around her neck? Does she not?
So i hope you see where i'm coming from, connecting it with the grooming.

Grey food? What came to mind was grey matter, which is part of the human central nervous system, espacially the brain.
Could stand for learning things in a twisted way.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Well yes but those mystery events are planned for 0.32.0 which is 3 updates away so there is some time to follow the process. Even more so if the 35th is actually [Akira's Favorite Flower] since she's already introduced.
Also Rika will get events in 0.31.0

Yes, Rika's finally getting events in .31, after first appearing in .26p2, which released about two months after she was teased to subscribers. It's about six months from tease to event, and getting an advance tease on new characters in a live-streamed event is one of the few perks of subscribing that hasn't been pirated, he's ESPECIALLY not going to abandon that right now -- especially since this would be the last time it happens.

 

[crustlord12]

Yes, Rika's finally getting events in .31, after first appearing in .26p2, which released about two months after she was teased to subscribers. It's about six months from tease to event, and getting an advance tease on new characters in a live-streamed event is one of the few perks of subscribing that hasn't been pirated, he's ESPECIALLY not going to abandon that right now -- especially since this would be the last time it happens.

Someone's gonna figure out how to re-stream it live

 

[TheLarceny]

I hope it ends with gumroad thingy, this not cool.

 

[ganesha2407]

Same here

dude
what i want to know is why the game is not working,
but this threads just become Light Novel Reply wars that i bother to read out of nowhere.

 

[vehemental]

I wonder if this is all intentional on Sel's part. he knows what he is doing and wants someone to ruin it for him just so he can 'take the money and run' and have an available scapegoat to point fingers at. but then i remember the patreon fiasco which would have been the perfect time to do just that.

Fortunately I don't think the game would have gotten where it is as quickly if he didn't actually enjoy working on it. And there's not much money to take and run with, TBH

I am left with the only conclusion that Sel might have borderline high functioning autism.

Man I have "high functioning" autism, and it doesn't impair your ability to look at your goals (your game not being pirated), look at what other people are doing to achieve those goals (not being a raging dickhead to your patrons far before any of this started), and apply that to your own life. The fact that Selly is the only dev with a game on this site repeatedly shooting himself in both feet by using brute force tactics, inserting personal grievances into the game, and continuing to stoke the flames of resentment on both sides points to much darker tendencies.

Maybe at one point the dark triad shit will be kept in the game where it belongs, or maybe this was all just a waste of time. Only time will tell.

I hope it ends with gumroad thingy, this not cool.

Ayyy, looks like we got it taken down. RIPBOZO

 

[TheLarceny]

dude
what i want to know is why the game is not working,
but this threads just become Light Novel Reply wars that i bother to read out of nowhere.

This update contains some DRM shit bro, if you have pirated care packages on your game, it will delete your saves and script
Read later pages to find the save files or go to the first page for how to disable DRM

 

[worthlesspeon]

Ayyy, looks like we got it taken down. RIPBOZO

Next one that's doable is shop.selebus.com I think. He's using shopify for that.

I am left with the only conclusion that Sel might have borderline high functioning autism.

Narcissistic personality disorder seems much more fitting, but obviously very difficult to make an actual psychiatric diagnosis without examining the patient myself.

 

[DrFree]

I am left with the only conclusion that Sel might have borderline high functioning autism.

Gonna be honest here, this was my conclusion long before anything happened, and I never even meant it on a derogatory way.
Him being difficult is a personality issue, not a 'tism issue.

 

[KnowNoHope]

Fortunately I don't think the game would have gotten where it is as quickly if he didn't actually enjoy working on it. And there's not much money to take and run with, TBH



Man I have "high functioning" autism, and it doesn't impair your ability to look at your goals (your game not being pirated), look at what other people are doing to achieve those goals (not being a raging dickhead to your patrons far before any of this started), and apply that to your own life. The fact that Selly is the only dev with a game on this site repeatedly shooting himself in both feet by using brute force tactics, inserting personal grievances into the game, and continuing to stoke the flames of resentment on both sides points to much darker tendencies.

Maybe at one point the dark triad shit will be kept in the game where it belongs, or maybe this was all just a waste of time. Only time will tell.



Ayyy, looks like we got it taken down. RIPBOZO

yeah I guess you are right, that assessment probably isn't fair to people with autism, Work with someone with it and they are brilliant but they periodically have tantrums that make it near impossible to be around them.
as for taking the money and running I meant using it as an excuse not to finish it after promising.

 

[vehemental]

Same here

dude
what i want to know is why the game is not working,
but this threads just become Light Novel Reply wars that i bother to read out of nowhere.

Sounds like you guys got schwacked by the DRM that deletes your saves and the game's script.rpy file if you have pirated care packages installed. The OP has a link to a post with replacements for your saves and the game files that were deleted.

 

[elle_degen_hours]

Made a little change to the cheat mod. Original mod let you change the lust and love values of all the girls at once, that functionality is still there if you use setLoveAndLust(value) and i added another function that lets you set love and lust values of the individual girls separately. Pretty easy to use, func is setValue(value) and itl ask you what you wanna change just enter the girls name and then lust or love to change either lust or love eg ami_lust or ami_love. Let me know if there are any problems.

 

[vehemental]

Next one that's doable is shop.selebus.com I think. He's using shopify for that.

My own bloodlust is sated with taking down the gumroad as a response to the DRM, given it was just for the loli shit anyway. I'll help out if it escalates to doing more than it currently does, though.

yeah I guess you are right, that assessment probably isn't fair to people with autism, Work with someone with it and they are brilliant but they periodically have tantrums that make it near impossible to be around them.
as for taking the money and running I meant using it as an excuse not to finish it after promising.

I can see why you'd come to the earlier conclusion. Shit's tough. Of course I don't know how it is for other people, but from my experience the tantrums sound more like a result of it being easy to get depressed when you have the innate social skills of a wasp at a picnic.

 

[vehemental]

Made a little change to the cheat mod. Original mod let you change the lust and love values of all the girls at once, that functionality is still there if you use setLoveAndLust(value) and i added another function that lets you set love and lust values of the individual girls separately. Pretty easy to use, func is setValue(value) and itl ask you what you wanna change just enter the girls name and then lust or love to change either lust or love eg ami_lust or ami_love. Let me know if there are any problems.

If you wanted to spend some more time on this, I think it would be better if the mod only affected the values of the girls that were unlocked in the story. I used it then rolled back the changes when I saw that it affected everyone's in Chapter 1.