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So how's everyone choice regarding Io?
What did you get when you choose to keep her as tools?
Choosing to humanize her giving 50 affection bit of concerning if we're looking at past update.
So far I'm sticking with Stomachache. Played it, then immediately quick-loaded back to the beginning and said not just no, but HELL NO. Just couldn't do it. Yeah, sure, Sensei's an awful person, and he's not me, blah-blah-blah. But I apparently have limits. :shrug:
And so far the game hasn't given us any incentive not to make the more humane choice — aside from the dopamine hit of an all-green route.
If we find out that not choosing the least sexy sex scene in the history of sex scenes actually locks you out of something important, I'll hold my nose and URM my choice. But I am not playing that scene again. Nope.
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So how's everyone choice regarding Io?
What did you get when you choose to keep her as tools?
Choosing to humanize her giving 50 affection bit of concerning if we're looking at past update.
Based on how the game is made and on previous optional sexual partners, here's what we can say almost for certain :
There's zero chance refusing Io will get us exclusive scenes, because it's not the green route. The cool dialogue that reward you for your choice is cool, but this divergence will eventually be given less attention like it happened with Ami and the adults.
It can go in two ways: either the Io sex path is closed forever like it's the case for Ami, or a future event will give us the choice to accept her again, like it happened with Haruka and Sara. It could be tricky, because you have to create a chain of events where both versions of Io want a permanent sexual relation with Akira now. My money is on the former.
Based on how the game is made and on previous optional sexual partners, here's what we can say almost for certain :
There's zero chance refusing Io will get us exclusive scenes, because it's not the green route. The cool dialogue that reward you for your choice is cool, but this divergence will eventually be given less attention like it happened with Ami and the adults.
It can go in two ways: either the Io sex path is closed forever like it's the case for Ami, or a future event will give us the choice to accept her again, like it happened with Haruka and Sara. It could be tricky, because you have to create a chain of events where both versions of Io want a permanent sexual relation with Akira now. My money is on the former.
If there's a choice where she can become willing to have sex with Sensei because of something positive—even if she doesn't enjoy it—as opposed to trying to save Uta from him or simply feeling that it's all she's good for, then I might consider it. It would require a whole lot of extra writing on Sel's part going forward, since it would add a third route for Io, but he's done this for a few of the major choices, and I consider this to be one of those. (ETA: it occurs to me that he might pull a Yumi/Molly and simply have anyone who didn't have sex with Io fuck her anyway, whether during a blackout or whatever. Feels like a cop-out, but it would simplify writing for him.)
And as I said above, if not playing Stomachache locks us out of progressing, I'll reluctantly flip the flags with URM. But I won't like it.
So far I'm sticking with Stomachache. Played it, then immediately quick-loaded back to the beginning and said not just no, but HELL NO. Just couldn't do it. Yeah, sure, Sensei's an awful person, and he's not me, blah-blah-blah. But I apparently have limits. :shrug:
And so far the game hasn't given us any incentive not to make the more humane choice — aside from the dopamine hit of an all-green route.
If we find out that not choosing the least sexy sex scene in the history of sex scenes actually locks you out of something important, I'll hold my nose and URM my choice. But I am not playing that scene again. Nope.
Exactly my reaction
I watched the whole scene,and i visibly disturbed thinking what Sekai say is kinda make sense.
So yeah huggable Io it's my comfort zone for her.
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So how's everyone choice regarding Io?
What did you get when you choose to keep her as tools?
Choosing to humanize her giving 50 affection bit of concerning if we're looking at past update.
I looked at both scenarios and chose the no-sex route because fuck it.
Still don't see what exactly Selebus is trying to say here, but if the game continues to follow the “characters face their fears and overcome them” trend, I'm expecting some horrible consequences for my choices. Maybe I'll change my mind considering later events, but until then I intend to just wait and see.
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So how's everyone choice regarding Io?
What did you get when you choose to keep her as tools?
Choosing to humanize her giving 50 affection bit of concerning if we're looking at past update.
The dialogue you get for red path Io is so out of place it's like the opposite of Chika's rabies. I don't know if there's a punchline coming but something is wrong. Time will tell if the wrong thing is big enough to worry about. There's a chance Shampoo might be the correct choice and most people have broken saves for their efforts.
Sensei is a pedophile and a rapist, red route will never be true route, one of many reasons being is that it will simply erase the very reason why Sensei is the way he is. He is not someone "relatable" and he is not someone anyone should self insert in, even as a pedophile, he would hardly be relatable, I know several pedos, character that Sel created while being "true" in general terms, is still a bit too hyperbolized in some parts, so nah, SO Janu would be more relatable in that matter, if that is what someone is looking for. Sensei is not a good person, he will never be a good person, there are no such thing as a "Virtuous Pedophile" and hopefully Sel will not make Sensei to be such, because if he does, then there will be a very strong suspicions about Selebus interests. "Оставь надежды всяк сюда входящии" as the saying goes, leave your morals at the door, because Sensei is a monster just like Humbert and red path makes him almost human like, which he is not. Green Route is the only route, there should not even be any doubts about it
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So how's everyone choice regarding Io?
What did you get when you choose to keep her as tools?
Choosing to humanize her giving 50 affection bit of concerning if we're looking at past update.
The Game continues with a means of "Face your fears and traumas to move forward." If you don't do this, Akira doesn't see that the method he deals with his trauma is not healthy and doesn't work and this will probably have consequences in the future, the same thing goes for Io, if she doesn't deal with her trauma Possibly there will also be consequences later on in the dark route or even before.
The Game continues with a means of "Face your fears and traumas to move forward." If you don't do this, Akira doesn't see that the method he deals with his trauma is not healthy and doesn't work and this will probably have consequences in the future, the same thing goes for Io, if she doesn't deal with her trauma Possibly there will also be consequences later on in the dark route or even before.
Hello everyone, I'm planning to switch to the English version of the game from Russian, and as I understand it, Russian saves conflict with the English version. Can someone provide a save from the end of 0.4.3 version?
Hello everyone, I'm planning to switch to the English version of the game from Russian, and as I understand it, Russian saves conflict with the English version. Can someone provide a save from the end of 0.4.3 version?
I would like to again make the point that there is no rape in "stomachache", other than the rape that would exist in every student's scene. Furthermore, imo, "stomachache" is one of the best if not the best/worst event in LiL. If ever there was a reason for LiL to delve into the topics it does, it was to have scenes like that. It's painfully realistic, complicated and it makes people feel horrible.
I'm not going to go through every detail from both of the variations, but since Akira's intent was obvious insofar as he went through the trauma of emulating Sekai, here's Io's counterpart:
I'm not saying Akira couldn't have come to this realisation he should walk out, based on what he went through, it just doesn't feel organic to me. It's like somehow I got a glimpse of the Akira from one entire season in the future just showing up for "stomachache" and leaving Io alone. What's the inciting event for him learning that his way of loving is wrong if not "stomachache" itself?
look at this and try to convince yourself if this doesn't read exactly like a dlc for LiL meant to make you get the happy scenes you couldn't in the base game:
This is so close to giving me diabetes that it is basically fanfiction at this point.
Edit: just want to reiterate that I get choosing red path for this one, not judging anyone for it. And I also get that people might need some sort of manifested agency of leading things in a better and healthier direction. My intent was just to point out that Io's probably going to have sex with Akira regardless, and that I think the writing for the red path is worse and makes less sense (as usual).
Yeah, i'm not going to judge folks for not being able to stomach that scene but i remind myself this is a story about Akira and what he would do, not what i would do. Choices are just an illusion in this story.
I would like to again make the point that there is no rape in "stomachache", other than the rape that would exist in every student's scene. Furthermore, imo, "stomachache" is one of the best if not the best/worst event in LiL. If ever there was a reason for LiL to delve into the topics it does, it was to have scenes like that. It's painfully realistic, complicated and it makes people feel horrible.
I'm not going to go through every detail from both of the variations, but since Akira's intent was obvious insofar as he went through the trauma of emulating Sekai, here's Io's counterpart:
I'm not saying Akira couldn't have come to this realisation he should walk out, based on what he went through, it just doesn't feel organic to me. It's like somehow I got a glimpse of the Akira from one entire season in the future just showing up for "stomachache" and leaving Io alone. What's the inciting event for him learning that his way of loving is wrong if not "stomachache" itself?
look at this and try to convince yourself if this doesn't read exactly like a dlc for LiL meant to make you get the happy scenes you couldn't in the base game:
This is so close to giving me diabetes that it is basically fanfiction at this point.
Edit: just want to reiterate that I get choosing red path for this one, not judging anyone for it. And I also get that people might need some sort of manifested agency of leading things in a better and healthier direction. My intent was just to point out that Io's probably going to have sex with Akira regardless, and that I think the writing for the red path is worse and makes less sense (as usual).
I'm wondering if being at Ayane's/the Reset seemingly about to happen, was fucking with everyone's personalities, including Io's, and it was just extremely noticeable on the red path.
Of course, future red path dialogue could prove me wrong... but, I really hope Io and Sensei aren't going to act all lovey dovey in the red path from now on...it's just, well, it compels me to try out my best Maya impression, if you get what I'm saying.
Sensei seeing Maya, and mini/wizard Io showing up behind them in that Event:
Leads me to believe there's some supernatural fuckery going on.
Which may also explain why characters seemed to be more emotional last update. Sana talking about being jealous, Maya crying and lusting, Makoto opening up to Yumi, etc.
Albeit, I could just be trying to rationalize the Io red path dialogue...
Последнее сообщение на ближаишии год. Появилась у меня охуенная идея, если на гражданку(Даи Бог) вернусь через определенное время, то поиду в преподаватели по английскому языку. Вот умора будет, к тому же не зря же 2 бакалавра и магистра получал. Придется только сертификат Tesol получить, а то без него ща никуда, но в регионе он думаю нахуи не понадобится. Коммент мои затрагивающии Janu вдруг осенил меня эврикои. Только вот вопрос, бакалавр то у меня по филология(французкий язык и английский), а не педагогический, но думаю вкупе с Tesol проблем на гражданке не будет.
Just have 2 playthroughs going simultaneously 1 green path and 1 with your choices. I guess it could slightly undermine the weight involved in choosing to commit to or trying to avoid the more odious events. But your probably going to end up playing those scenes at least 1 time anyway so you might as well have an ongoing contrast between the 2. Although I guess that works better if you if you take the frame of reference from the choices you made and how the green path differs. Because if you look out from the green path its just missed events and dialog differences, occasionally they can be emotionally impactful ones, particularly if you saw the alternative, but its mostly just inconsequential ones.
