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DeSkel15

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First I want to say that your comments are always interesting to read, please continue dude.
As for your text, I have questions. Where does Sensei fit in all of this? who is he anyway? Why are Sekai and Nao, "semi-divine beings", so interested in him? What about the lower gods, why is "human" Sensei so influential to them?
He is clearly not an ordinary person, and perhaps he never was a human...
what is your opinion on this?

P.S Sorry for my English.
Honestly, I doubt we'll really know the "why's" until later on.

However, I'm thinking what makes Sensei special is mostly that Sensei is "highly favored":
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Whether it's because his parents were special, or Maya is special, or The Shapeshifter is special, or he simply managed to entertain some bored entity at the right time, or it's because we and the gods have been led to believe he is special, I'm not sure.

Sensei himself doesn't seem to be what matters. It's what he represents to someone else that seems to be important. It seemed to be what Nodoka was hinting at in her recent "Love Story":
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There are plenty of characters who value Sensei for whatever reason. Some could even be considered as deifying him. The way others perceive Sensei could be what makes him so special.

Although according to Nao, Sensei's not even a piece of the puzzle:
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So, who really knows. His story may end up just being filler in someone else's story.
 
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LOL judging from tier lists posted here seems like everyone already had their preference gradient figured out;

meanwhile I am sitting here with like 20 girls in S and 10 girls in A without anyone below B, before realizing how either indecisive or not selective I am :LOL:
I had a very Drunkenly/Painfully detailed post for my reasons about everyone in the cast thank you. Some girls just win more imo
 

DeSkel15

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Does Nao-chan is related to this Nao-god? Or is she THE God herself then? And is there some meaning behind her heterochromia? Like, the red color of the eye is understandable, cuz Nao (godlike one) was using Ami's body to show itself to Akira. But why is her other eye green? How Nao is related to Maya?
I've actually theorized about Nao-chan prior:
Random Theory Time: Nao-chan might be either an altered Moyo or Moyo's daughter...

Remember the last time we heard of Moyo?:
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The whole change in "constitution" and "what is growing inside" stuff seems suspicious.

This also happens after Moyo swallows a bucket full of Sensei's semen in 'Second Son', then, after Moyo apparently goes through surgery in 'Untitled', Nao-chan shows up in 'First Contact'.

On top of that, there's how Moyo can't seem to speak without damaging others, and how Nao-chan can't seem to speak at all:
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There's also some other things like how Nao-chan's poses seem a little similar to Moyo's:
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Overall: Moyo and Nao-chan seem possibly linked, and I'm not sure how I feel about this. It could just be nothing though, and something else is going on with Moyo and Nao-chan.
And how she might be related to Moyo.

However, I recently put together that Long Maya and Moyo might be related to, if not created by, Nao:
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The fact that the event that Nao introduces itself in, 'Mother's Milk', comes from a bonus question on the 'Untitled' children's show that Moyo and Long Maya host, may have implied their relation as well.

Why Nao may have created Maya abominations, I'm not sure, but it could be related to why it seems to take Ami's form. Long Maya and Moyo are it's versions of Ami's Maya.

Nevertheless: Nao-chan and Nao definitely seem related. In what way, I'm not sure, but Nao has made it clear it can be anything:
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Perhaps Nao-chan is just what it decided to be after this event, or perhaps Nao-chan is a creation it created to make things more entertaining. Or whatever created Nao, wanted a Nao 2.0.
 
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If it comes to this thread as a whole i think DeSkel15 is the lore leader, Bingoogus is the react king tsundere, Blackredfish is the 'fuck you nodoka' leader because i'm grasping at straws to fill anything outside of the other 2 ideas..

I'm truly just writing shit and pairing ideas with OST beats.
 

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Nao:
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Who shows up in the 'Mother's Milk' Happy Event is quite the enigma.

If I had to guess though, it is significantly above the "gods" like HOPE. Yomiel seemed to imply there was a "Center" when it came to god stuff, that it wanted to migrate closer to:
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and Yomiel is likely a servant of The Callous god/HOPE:
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Which implies there are gods closer to the "Center" than it. Yomiel also implies it's god is more talk than the ones closer to the center:
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Assuming The Center determines the hierarchy of things, and how Yasu seems to consider her god young, implies it needs help against the Older gods:
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And how HOPE even seems to loop like the girls do:
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as shown in the 'How I Feel' Happy Event, if you look at 61/AmIOkay Maya, then I think HOPE/Callous god is actually one of the weakest "gods" overall.

However, there is the whole dead but not dead thing, so back before it "died", it may have been far more powerful (maybe). Now, it seems to need to rely on Yasu, and seems to struggle to function outside of Summer:
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Not to mention, like The Wire god, and Pareidolia, it seems to need/want access to Sensei. The whole Users thing and trying to gain favor or trust with Sensei, implies all 3 aren't anywhere close to the top of the pecking order.

Now, back to Nao. It doesn't seem to want nor need to Use Sensei:
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It might even actually be him, or at least he seems to be a part of it, as is possibly everything:
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Nao also seems to consider itself "an entity so much bigger" than Sensei:
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Yet still just a cog fullfiling it's role:
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It also somewhat implies there are 3 kinds of gods as well in a way. The gods, the entity they worship, and the entity that entity worships:
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Nao, unlike the other "gods", seems to allow progress:
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and catalogs it:
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Instead of just trying to guide or manipulate it like The Callous, Calm, and Concerned do with Sensei. If anything, Nao might be the god that the gods, we know, worship or worshipped.

Nao may even be at the "Center" that Yomiel mentioned:
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Nao also is possibly the "god" that was using Sensei before things became as they are now:
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Which might explain why Long Maya, etc, are "freelancers":
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The entity that created them (Nao), no longer wants to play with Sensei and rather just watch. The other "gods" are merely using Nao's leftovers.

Still, no matter how "above" things Nao seems to be. It's still just a cog apparently. More than that, it seems to be "half-divine":
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But, I also noticed it claimed "we":
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which seems to imply, Nao is literally not alone, and considering Sekai is there, and how her name can translate to "The World", I'm thinking it's "The World" that will be watching Sensei with Nao. Yasu has mentioned "The World" before:
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and how it's the last of it's kind, implying that whatever it is, is Notable. I also get the sense it likes to watch things happen like Nao:
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Overall: I'm thinking Nao is on a higher level than the Seasonal gods. They might be so beneath it, their resources are it's trash. Not entirely sure about the "4th god" though.
This reminded me of something I noticed when I loaded the wrong save the other day. There's an event called "From the desk of the ninth god." Other than the apparent existence of a ninth god(and therefore potentially 4 other ones we don't know about) the narrator also mentions a few things that gave me some food for thought:

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Honestly, I doubt we'll really know the "why's" until later on.

However, I'm thinking what makes Sensei special is mostly that Sensei is "highly favored":
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Whether it's because his parents were special, or Maya is special, or The Shapeshifter is special, or he simply managed to entertain some bored entity at the right time, or it's because we and the gods have been led to believe he is special, I'm not sure.

Sensei himself doesn't seem to be what matters. It's what he represents to someone else that seems to be important. It seemed to be what Nodoka was hinting at in her recent "Love Story":
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There are plenty of characters who value Sensei for whatever reason. Some could even be considered as deifying him. The way others perceive Sensei could be what makes him so special.

Although according to Nao, Sensei's not even a piece of the puzzle:
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So, who really knows. His story may end up just being filler in someone else's story.
1) Well, here is the main question - why does everyone love him so much if he is ordinary? And how can he be ordinary when literally everything around him is unusual? You might give me a tinfoil hat, but that just makes me think he's just as, if not more, unique than them.

2) in contrast to the words of Nao, one can cite the words of HOPE and, I don’t remember exactly, other gods and beings about the importance and uniqueness of Sensei.

I also thought here, maybe so that those who talk about the importance of Akira and those who say the opposite are talking about different "puzzles"?
Maybe Nao really doesn't need Akira for its current puzzle/goal, but that doesn't negate his importance and influence in general?

It's quite interesting to theorize over this. )
 

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1) Well, here is the main question - why does everyone love him so much if he is ordinary? And how can he be ordinary when literally everything around him is unusual? You might give me a tinfoil hat, but that just makes me think he's just as, if not more, unique than them.

2) in contrast to the words of Nao, one can cite the words of HOPE and, I don’t remember exactly, other gods and beings about the importance and uniqueness of Sensei.

I also thought here, maybe so that those who talk about the importance of Akira and those who say the opposite are talking about different "puzzles"?
Maybe Nao really doesn't need Akira for its current puzzle/goal, but that doesn't negate his importance and influence in general?

It's quite interesting to theorize over this. )
1) I mean Sensei's not ordinary even ignoring the supernatural stuff. 6"2ish, "huge cock", one of the only males around, and is teaching all girls that are likely still in puberty. Not to mention he has a low age range preference, and nearly everyone around him needs therapy and are desperate to feel whole. (Okay that last bit seems unfortunately ordinary in my experience, lmao.)

Still, even his black outs and Happy Events don't seem all that unique to him based off how Long Maya has mentioned there's been other guests:
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and while Sensei was being quizzed in 'Untitled' it seems like the girls were as well:
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Sensei seems to seem more important because he thinks he's more important:
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He seems to be a narcissist at heart.

It's also hard to tell what Sensei has experienced is even real. Like his trips to the rooftop, outside of resets, don't make much sense, even in game, since it should be locked:
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and like The Shapeshifter pointed out, he's not exactly trustworthy when it comes to what makes sense:
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Overall: It's hard to judge how important Sensei is when we don't even know what's actually happening. Just what he seems to think is happening most of the time.

2) Personally, I'd place Nao's words above the others simply because it seems to have literally no reason to lie. It even showed him his past just because it could, and apparently Sensei wouldn't even remember what it said or did anyway:
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HOPE and the Seasonal gods on the other hand seem more desperate, and Sensei could just be a way for them to access others. In HOPE's case it might just need a dick so it can "eat" the lust of the girls around Sensei, and grow stronger.

In retrospect, what makes Sensei so special might literally just come down to his dick..

Also, yeah, the gods and Nao all seem to have different goals and "puzzles". HOPE wants to fuck, The Wire god seems to want Order, Pareidolia seems to want to not be Concerned by how things are going. Nao seems to want to watch the puppets dance, and The World seems to want to watch everyone, well, cry and maybe burn?:
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Then there's The Old One who just seems to want friends.

Whatever is actually going on is definitely going to be wild. I'll be so disappointed if Sensei's just in an insane asylum or something.
 

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This is me just smoking shit but do you imagine that the crash was planned by Nozomu itself to get revenge to Sekai and Sensei? Like he discovered he got cucked and killed Sekai and died to fuck with Sensei mind also making the gods mess with him and the ones near him.

Like i said this is just me going on a trip xd Probably there are some data somewhere saying more realistic and accurate facts about the crash.
 

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This reminded me of something I noticed when I loaded the wrong save the other day. There's an event called "From the desk of the ninth god." Other than the apparent existence of a ninth god(and therefore potentially 4 other ones we don't know about) the narrator also mentions a few things that gave me some food for thought:

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I can definitely see there being a Conceited god. Perhaps the 4th, who needs to be everything, fits this.

As for the possibly sudden 5 new gods, I'm not really sure what to think of that just yet, but the 9th god seems to imply it's job is to think in Nothing, so perhaps it's the Contemplating god or something.

As for "Nothing", it might actually be the name of something. We have a "god" named Hope, and another seemingly called The World, as well as Pareidolia. I wouldn't be all that surprised by a god called "Nothing".

Overall: I think there needs to be more references to this 9th god, etc, before anything can really be understood.
 

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This is me just smoking shit but do you imagine that the crash was planned by Nozomu itself to get revenge to Sekai and Sensei? Like he discovered he got cucked and killed Sekai and died to fuck with Sensei mind also making the gods mess with him and the ones near him.

Like i said this is just me going on a trip xd Probably there are some data somewhere saying more realistic and accurate facts about the crash.
That would be awfully callous of him. Especially how it'd orphan his only daughter.
 
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That would be awfully callous of him. Especially how it'd orphan his only daughter.
Well if our theories about Nozomu being Sensei brother and the ex husband of Sara it would not be the first time he abandoned someone for his objective
Also if HOPE is the callous god and Nozomu's rencarnation could make sense (maybe? xd)
 
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Whatever is actually going on is definitely going to be wild. I'll be so disappointed if Sensei's just in an insane asylum or something.
Absolutely. Selebus better have this entire story properly sketched out (with nuances to be filled in). By now, after years following this game, I have extremely high expectations for the resolution of this story. Better be damn good.

Or at least acceptable..
 
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Absolutely. Selebus better have this entire story properly sketched out (with nuances to be filled in). By now, after years following this game, I have extremely high expectations for the resolution of this story. Better be damn good.

Or at least acceptable..
Well, that specific subject concerns me, i don't know if Selly is the kind of self-involved artisté who wouldn't dare alter his magnum opus even if some jackasses on a pirate site figured his story out in one of their countless theories or if he's the kind of pompous narcissist who couldn't take the blow to his ego by having his story accurately guessed at and would feel the need to alter it any time that happens so he can continue to feel superior to the peasants and evil pirates.

It concerns me because the first option is tolerable and we'll eventually get the end of the story but there is a real risk of the second and that'll mean we either get an endless stream of stealth retcons* or eventually his ego won't be able to handle the gymnastics required to keep control and he'll light the whole thing on fire and give everyone the finger.

(*similar to how it felt when Ami was pumped up to be going psycho 2 updates ago only to feel suddenly simmered down in the next update. Take note, i am talking about how it felt, not necessarily that he did or did not retcon anything)
 

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I think that Ami is not the killer, but something else either possessing Ami or taking her form, but that kinda gives space for the following: "Pareidolia" the tendency to perceive a specific, often meaningful image in a random or ambiguous visual pattern. Maybe pareidolia is what influenced Maya's vision of Ami in whatever killed people before.
Yea after the most recent development I've downgraded Ami from homicidal psychopath to a mixture of gaslight/gatekeep/girlboss.

The way Ami acted after Ayane either seeing through or having enough of her bullshit is aligning really well with some of the toxic people I unfortunately have to deal with IRL on a daily basis. They will not self-reflect, but will keep trying to scare you the only way that has been benefacting them, even when you're in the middle of calling them out. But as soon as you snap at them once and don't allow the same tactic work on you, manipulators' verbal abuses become vacant and vain.
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(like here, dropping threats instead of calling Ayane entitled horny bitch with bad taste in music)

Plus, once their bullshit got figured out, they actually don't have means other than manipulative words and/or petty tactics to try and continue beating people into submission. Ami even has to start "outsourcing" in hope for ending Ayane's behaviors because her only shit no longer works.
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Since Ami's manipulative words and behaviors will only work on her close friends (Chika for example will give zero fuck on any of this), if she really won't ever turn from verbally abusive to physically abusive like Himawari suggested, this would further raise questions regarding how true Maya's claim about Ami hurting others is.

Though the possibilities are plenty, currently I am on the same boat as you, as in girls getting physically hurt is true, but Maya interpreted the cause and/or the situation wrong (a little like Tsuneyo's read to Molly's drunk scene).
Basically, Maya might've been:
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