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The Dunce Council has been formed, brothers.
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I doubt anyone can give you an exact number but the rough answer is a shit tonne, it gets thicker and thicker with it as the game goes along.
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Okkkkkkk welp this was sudden.I finished all the available content.I was legit wondering "Why is no event triggering".Ig now its time for me to replay events and start lore fagging.How nice.
Since this will take a while and will involve actual theory crafting and whatnot,my plan is this.I will replay all the events,translate whatever i need and then try and piece things together.AFTER i do all of that ill come here and present my theories and you guys can rip them to shreds.Sounds fun am i right?
Since this will take a while and will involve actual theory crafting and whatnot,my plan is this.I will replay all the events,translate whatever i need and then try and piece things together.AFTER i do all of that ill come here and present my theories and you guys can rip them to shreds.Sounds fun am i right?
Just keep in mind that next update is soon and we might get new information, could either help or break whatever ongoing theories are already around.. or could be completely irrelevant, depends on Sel's mood I guess.
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Religious elements tend to focus around christian symbolism, presumably because of Akira's family. Bible quotes, crosses, angels, general moralism around sin, even the notion of 3 gods being 1. One could argue that the eternal struggle between light and dark with humanity being the rope in between them is from Manichaeism, but that has been since incorporated into christianity so I guess it's nitpicking. That would be the same for most of the random elements that are thrown around.
Occult elements are hard to pinpoint because what is presented doesn't necessarily refer to any specific occult element rather than having an occult feel to it. "The old one" for instance (and even NAO), could simply be Selebus' creation, rather than a Lovecraftian reference. Same goes for the sakura trees and the world itself - and to a larger extent, things like wires, semen and voices in your head seem to be very much a Selebus "creation" rather than a specific reference to something. Of those there are countless, and for an example of what I mean: You could find numerous references of secrets hidden in the wind or in the voice of cicadas in occult literature, but to say Selebus is making a direct reference to one of them would be forcing the point imo. It doesn't seem to be the case.
There is also random stuff that he throws in that I don't think merit a real analysis. You could argue that Flora, the Emissary of Pegasus, the Council of Plants, the Untitled tv show, and so on, have counterparts in movie and literature culture as a whole. But to each their own in terms of what to delve into.
You haven't asked, but it is important to note that although there aren't many specific occult references, there are many poetry ones. Those tend to be blatant enough that you'd recognize them though, so if anything sounds like classic poetry to you there is a likely chance Selebus is referencing something.
There are a few references to architectural landmarks, paintings, movies and videogames too - but those are in the extreme minority. Strangely enough, I don't remember many references to literature novels though (I can only recall "where the sidewalk ends", but even that is not exactly classic literature, as he tends to use classic poetry). I guess Akira's deal really was poetry...
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Let me be the first to welcome and congratulate you on getting up to date with the game. It was a pleasure reading about your first experience through it, and we eagerly await the topics of discussion you'll bring. Also don't feel like you have to bring smart enough stuff, jokes and simple sharing of random moments through screenshots are just as, and sometimes even more, well received.
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Omfg! I just had the craziest revelation just now! Remember that post that confirmed Tsubasa was more important than we give her credit for? Well I'm pretty sure she's literally the narrator at the end of the first Beach Vacation. Just look:
The fact she repeats the same questions? The tree reference just a few sentences later (which may or may not be about the sakura at her manor)? At the very least, this is worth looking into. Assuming no one has already pointed this out.
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The fact she repeats the same questions? The tree reference just a few sentences later (which may or may not be about the sakura at her manor)? At the very least, this is worth looking into. Assuming no one has already pointed this out.
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well, fuck. First of all, congratulations on figuring that out. But the repercussions of Tsubasa being the narrator for "see you in the morning" would be astounding (cause that's an entire event that I went through thinking about Tsubasa narrating and it was odd, to say the least, cause there's a lot of stuff there - like the narrator addressing Rin and having her hear the clocks for instance). Well, the name of the Tsubasa event is "playing god" - which could be a nod to her "playing it" instead of being it, and Akira makes a comparison between her and Nodoka (another character that is suspected of hearing the world itself).
I think it's more likely that the narrator for "see you in the morning" is also related to the world itself. Maybe both Nodoka and Tsubasa can hear it, and as Akira puts it, each of them have a different approach to it. One wants to break everything, the other wants to guide them in a better path. Both are tugging the strings though, through information/insight of what they're capable of hearing.
Now, who could be narrating it that would be heard by Tsubasa/related to the tree I have no idea either.
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Given the nature of this game i wouldn't rule out the possibility that whoever the narrator was, if not Tsubasa, might turn out to have influence over her, with her essentially parroting back the whispers in her head or influenced ideas she's had in the past. That being said... your idea is quite intriguing, it certainly matches up, but i'll return to my dunce table and let the big boys dig into and through this one.
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Is it really a surprise? Why would the most powerful family in a city suddenly enroll her daughter in a random school class.
It's not random, she is targetting Akira for a specific reason.
And there was no way she wasn't aware of the supernatural having the sakura tree.
I think I finally figured it out.
TSUBASA IS MORE THAN JUST AN AGENT LIKE YASU, SHE IS RELATED TO HOPE
//////////////////////NO NEED TO BE SCARED ANYMORE
//////////////////////THERE IS NO REASON TO BE
//////////////////////IT'S ALL JUST LINES
//////////////////////I WILL BREAK THOSE LINES
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Thank you for your answer.And,do you think Yusa's reference to plane is a borrowing of a concept from the occult, or is it a special expression of the Selebus?
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Also, I blame Bingoogus for my pfp change. He turned me into gore phase
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If you're correct, then even the moment Tsubasa stops to reconsider her decision to leave Tsukasa under Akira's care could be her listening to the whispers of world itself/whoever this narrator is.
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If you look at it this way, then Tsubasa makes perfect sense. She's doing the same thing as Yasu. She didn't know about Akira's tendencies until that conversation, and when she learns about them her natural reaction is think of explosive things, and probably calling the police and having his house searched (I believe that was an actual possibility).
But then she thinks about it, and changes her stance 180° from destructive to displaying full faith on him, why? Why is she confused? Why she keeps repeating his name? Did she hear something? And why does she seem to be doing something she also doesn't want to? The answer could be because to disprove the world itself she has to expose Tsukasa to this danger, and Akira has to survive this temptation in order for future events to get better. It could be all for her greater good (in the same way Sekai has to be brought back in order for Akira to be restored).
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I'm not a specialist, but planes of existence seem to be a fairly common concept, both in these kind of games, as in general oriental religions. For example, even in western society, the idea of ghosts is beings that are still here but somehow also not. They'd exist on a second plane of existence, and the barriers between them would become thinner under certain circumstances, such as Halloween or specific rituals, allowing these supernatural entities to be interacted with.
It could be possible that the Selebus' mythos references things specifically, but until the game is finished is very hard to trace those since we don't have most of the answers yet.
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Ok then so let us begin with something simple,that at the same time is by far the most important thing in understanding both amis and senseis characters.Sekai.
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Yes, Sekai, as far as we know, is the one who completely screwed Akira's mind. Akira already had a problem with his head because of his father, his mother already didn't like him, then Sekai came and completely destroyed the rest of his mind with the abuse and making him create a slight jealousy/hate for his brother .
I genuinely find it very difficult to place Maya as a naive young woman because there are several signs that prove this in addition to her existence and childhood being something that I suspect is not normal.
The scarf the second time it appeared was in Akira's flashback, the one who gave the scarves to Akira the first time we see these scarves was himawari/shapeshifter.