As for Akira not being in the car, Niki might have hinted at that. Although that could also mean that he jumped out of the moving car as it entered a collision course:
Ami wishes Akira would drive her places, though. So it's only him that has a fear of being inside of a car. So it would make more sense for him to be inside of the car and her out.
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I had the impression that Akria and Ami weren't in the car, most likely Sekai and Nozomu were coming home or something, and Aki and Ami just saw it happen. I can't quite find specifically the most recent line I was looking for, but I've felt that's the most likely case for a bit. Could be faulty memory or misinterpreting things though. The severity of the crash hinted at throughout the game also makes it sound like they probably weren't in the back seat, though.
There's a few references to car crashes that I'd say likely allude to the sekai crash throughout the game as well that make me lean slightly towards that. One even says Ami's parents were run over, but that's probably hyperbole (unless they were ejected.) This line, during the forced Yumi kiss — if it does harken back to the se-crash — makes it seem like the car may have even rolled violently. Altogether, Akira probably would have been left unconscious, or mildly fucked up at least, if he was in the car. (It's possible it was a crash that only seriously injured the driver and passenger though, that does happen.) And that might conflict with him "pulling metal" out of Sekai or even looking down at her.
Although I don't know. I don't think anything's definitive. If what MF Doom posted literally means he jumped from the car (not an easy thing to do at any significant speed, from personal experience) that might change. All I can hope for is a highly-detailed, animated flashback scene that I can put Lacrimosa over for easy reacts.
I do think Noriko is probably one of the more dangerous girls, and only Nodoka (and maybe Makoto) actually surpasses her intellectually, it seems. (Noriko placed 2nd at her Old School (with Nodoka and Touka), and she outclassed Maya in almost everything during tutoring)
If she wanted to get rid of someone, she probably knows quite a few creative ways to accomplish that goal.
That's not inherently a bad thing. And Noriko seems like the consequence of someone trying to be Sensei's dream girl, so I doubt she'll intentionally do anything that she sees as bad for him.
I'd probably put my money on Noriko against Psycho Ami, though:
Even if Ami has some mind control powers or something, Noriko seems resistant to mind alteration (noticed Maya's change, and seems to notice the timeline being longer than it should be), is more or less undeterrable when it comes to what she believes, and she knows how to play Ami:
Yeah that's fucking concerning, I forgot if she'd really do anything from Akira but if it has no limit (which I vaguely recall there might've been?) then that's something really advantageous for Pareidolia if he perfectly mimics Akira in some sort of TSS like how mimicked (although unperfected) that Ami Thing (forgot its name) in Frog Boy or takes over Akira's body and can actually copy Akira better than he tried(?) to in Tsuneyo's THIS IS NOT ME event.
Dunno what Pareidolia would make her do but it's most likely not killing people. Maybe something to have her and Niki's relationship become bad or similar to get rid of the Nakayama family.
Either way fuck what I want to say since I'm already getting a headache from Theory Brain™ and I'm tired.
Have a good day!
I unfortunately do have a feeling that the Nakayamas are part of Pareidolia's plan. I'm still not sure what to make of Niki's pics showing up in Pareidolia's Reset with Bullets and Spiders:
Not to mention that Pareidolia broke Sensei, and may have played a part in breaking Ami. Them breaking, ultimately led to Niki (and Noriko) becoming more prominent, and got rid of probably their only real competition in Maya Prime.
As for Akira not being in the car, Niki might have hinted at that. Although that could also mean that he jumped out of the moving car as it entered a collision course:
Ami wishes Akira would drive her places, though. So it's only him that has a fear of being inside of a car. So it would make more sense for him to be inside of the car and her out.
It seems like Sensei and Ami have ptsd from being hit by the yellow car, in the white car, after seeing the moon. Based off the 'Rain King' Happy Event, and 'First Contact' Main Event, in Chapter 3. Sensei may have been driving, but he says "us" and "why did it have to be him", so it's not clear.
Sensei also seems to see the yellow car incoming in Sana's 'Ad Meliora' Chapter 3 Event:
I unfortunately do have a feeling that the Nakayamas are part of Pareidolia's plan. I'm still not sure what to make of Niki's pics showing up in Pareidolia's Reset with Bullets and Spiders:
Not to mention that Pareidolia broke Sensei, and may have played a part in breaking Ami. Them breaking, ultimately led to Niki (and Noriko) becoming more prominent, and got rid of probably their only real competition in Maya Prime.
Yeah, mb, I misremembered this sentence thinking it was uncapitalized, I'll at least try to triple check anything I say in the future as so far my memory has been as helpful as a dead spider.
It seems like Sensei and Ami have ptsd from being hit by the yellow car, in the white car, after seeing the moon. Based off the 'Rain King' Happy Event, and 'First Contact' Main Event, in Chapter 3. Sensei may have been driving, but he says "us" and "why did it have to be him", so it's not clear.
Sensei also seems to see the yellow car incoming in Sana's 'Ad Meliora' Chapter 3 Event:
That changes a lot then. Why does Long Maya have the yellow car in her hands? And why would the yellow car change anything by not killing Sekai and Nozomu? If we're to take what's said in First Contact, while at the same time knowing that they're not responsible for their car crash, then:
If the car hadn't crashed into the Arakawa car, then it would have crashed into the "wall" that separates that world from HOPE, Wires and Pareidolia (they're outside the wall). And by doing so (not killing Sekai/Nozomu = no sacrifice at the very least), it would bring Nao-chan into existence.
From that, it follows that HOPE, Wires and Pareidolia exist and have existed regardless of the accident in another dimension - since Nozomu and Sekai dying didn't birth them. If Nozomu's death didn't birth HOPE, then Nozomu (brother) and the god are two different entities.
Also, the beings that were behind the wheel are still behind the wheel, which could tinfoil into supernatural entities causing the yellow car to crash into Nozomu and Sekai. Otherwise, it would mean that Nozomu and Sekai were still responsible for the crash, even though they're the ones being hit (?).
Lastly, it's implied that Nao-chan comes from the version of events in which Sekai and Nozomu don't die, but instead, whoever crashes into them, crashes into a wall instead. Well, in what way Sekai/Nozomu remaining alive spawns the ninth template?
WAIT - random idea!
what if this narrator IS NOT telling things from Nozomu/Sekai's perspective??
could this be about the people that crashed into Sekai/Nozomu looking at the carnage they caused, and then asking "why did it have to be him? (him being either Akira or Nozomu)
Who the hell crashed into them? Cause I was always working from the perspective of them hitting someone, likely to be Kaori's family since that's what makes more sense in how she got Sekai's organs. But if it was someone else... who the hell crashed into the Arakawa family and deeply regretted it in despair upon seeing either Nozomu or Akira in the car crash??
could this be about the people that crashed into Sekai/Nozomu looking at the carnage they caused, and then asking "why did it have to be him? (him being either Akira or Nozomu)
Who the hell crashed into them? Cause I was always working from the perspective of them hitting someone, likely to be Kaori's family since that's what makes more sense in how she got Sekai's organs. But if it was someone else... who the hell crashed into the Arakawa family and deeply regretted it in despair upon seeing either Nozomu or Akira in the car crash??
If it was Akira, then it'd make perfect sense for him to say "why did it have to be her?". Since Akira wishes he'd died in Sekai's place (and would have at the very least displeasure towards Nozomu, if not outright hatred). The most agreed upon interpretation of this scene is that it's Nozomu asking Sekai: "Oh, Sekai (World), in our final moments (both of them are dying), please answer me this: Why? Why did you sexually abuse and cheat on me/had a child with Akira?".
The issue with that, of course, is that Ami seems a lot less scared of cars than Akira. But that could be simply because she was a kid and maybe has hazier memories of the whole situation compared to him. I don't know how Akira "jumped" or how Niki even knew about it, maybe he jumped over the debris to get Sekai's body out? I have no clue, "jump" referring to this when he probably jumped to his death at a later date seems weird.
If it was Akira, then it'd make perfect sense for him to say "why did it have to be her?". Since Akira wishes he'd died in Sekai's place (and would have at the very least displeasure towards Nozomu, if not outright hatred). The most agreed upon interpretation of this scene is that it's Nozomu asking Sekai: "Oh, Sekai (World), in our final moments (both of them are dying), please answer me this: Why? Why did you sexually abuse and cheat on me/had a child with Akira?".
The issue with that, of course, is that Ami seems a lot less scared of cars than Akira. But that could be simply because she was a kid and maybe has hazier memories of the whole situation compared to him. I don't know how Akira "jumped" or how Niki even knew about it, maybe he jumped over the debris to get Sekai's body out? I have no clue, "jump" referring to this when he probably jumped to his death at a later date seems weird.
I could be missing something, and likely am, but for whatever reason in my head I picture Sekai and Nozomu coming home when they're hit, and Ami and Akira being at home seeing it. That's why Akira would be able to (uninjured) look down at Sekai and try to take metal off of her, and why neither were injured. It would also be awkward (although no less possible I suppose) for Akira to be in the car when Nozomu confronts Sekai, at least for it not coming up explicitly and being a thing before recently. I honestly have no idea what "you jumped" is supposed to mean, though. I'd agree that it means he jumped in fright or towards something, most likely, though. And I honestly don't think you can place Akira in the car and not Ami (or, you could, but don't need to.) Who's watching her? And if it's far-fetched for the crash to happen close to their home, where both would have seen it, Ami wouldn't have seen it either, only Akira who was in the car.
I have a slightly different take on the line "why did it have to be him" though. I still think it could easily be rhetorical or said in line with the poem that's clearly being referenced in differences scenes. I do think that it's most likely that Akira is using the phrase "O world" in most cases that come up, as a poetry reference, like I said. But I do think there's evidence that it's Nozomu saying this, and that this could be hinted at in, or he could be a narrator in the other scenes with these lines, speaking more-so as "himself" than potentially a user. I already had some loose/basic thoughts on it written down, so I'll paste them mostly unchanged.
At a basic level, besides Yasu's use, every mention of the term "O world" seems to be (possibly/most likely) from Akira, in a continuation of his inner-monologue or narration. Taken all together, we can assume that it is still Akira whenever the narrator uses the phrase "O world," or references whatever poem contains the phrase. It fits his speech, and flows within the dialogue enough be him, and with that many scenes it tracks that this is a phrase/reference he uses and is mostly unique to him. He even says "I speak to myself — O world-" in the event, O World, confirming that he uses this phrase/reference.
The other possibility is that it's not Akira using/referencing this phrase, but someone else — or, Akira and someone else that would both know of the poem, Akira's use of it, would be similar to Akira, etc. Someone who's potentially jumping in-between his monologues. This is the tinfoil hat theory.
Yasu also uses the phrase "O world." O World is also the name of the event in which Akira and Ami go to Nozomu and Sekai's grave. So who is associated with the user Yasu follows? And who would also refer to Akira with "Why did it have to be him?" Who perhaps feels guilty about what's happened to him in the past, and what he's going through? Or be angry at him? Who would know about Akira's reading/poetry, or perhaps even be similar enough to him to share those qualities/hobbies or use the same idioms/references?
Nozomu.
Hello, I don't want to interfere too much with the theory crafting going on, but I just want to point out that when Niki says "You jumped." she's just pointing out that Akira physically reacts to seeing the street where the accident happened. She's just wondering if seeing the street got him to remember something, not that he literally jumped back when it happened.
Hello, I don't want to interfere too much with the theory crafting going on, but I just want to point out that when Niki says "You jumped." she's just pointing out that Akira physically reacts to seeing the street where the accident happened. She's just wondering if seeing the street got him to remember something, not that he literally jumped back when it happened.
That's entirely possible. I hadn't reread the scene in game but I checked just now. It's not really clear, but I don't think it really affects the actual events either way, so I'm gonna keep it in that part of my brain that goes "eh."
Hello, I don't want to interfere too much with the theory crafting going on, but I just want to point out that when Niki says "You jumped." she's just pointing out that Akira physically reacts to seeing the street where the accident happened. She's just wondering if seeing the street got him to remember something, not that he literally jumped back when it happened.
I don't know how Akira "jumped" or how Niki even knew about it, maybe he jumped over the debris to get Sekai's body out? I have no clue, "jump" referring to this when he probably jumped to his death at a later date seems weird.
Hello, I don't want to interfere too much with the theory crafting going on, but I just want to point out that when Niki says "You jumped." she's just pointing out that Akira physically reacts to seeing the street where the accident happened. She's just wondering if seeing the street got him to remember something, not that he literally jumped back when it happened.
Who the hell crashed into them? Cause I was always working from the perspective of them hitting someone, likely to be Kaori's family since that's what makes more sense in how she got Sekai's organs. But if it was someone else... who the hell crashed into the Arakawa family and deeply regretted it in despair upon seeing either Nozomu or Akira in the car crash??
In an event I can't remember, Yuki talks about the accident that hospitalized Kaori. I think she says that her "family died in the same accident" or something along those lines. It's really vague wording but I guess it is possible Kaori and her family were in the other car?
On a related note, does Yuki ever say anything about her siblings? She's mention her parents before but nothing else I think. I'm just wondering if Kaori is a niece from her side of the family or from Yumi's dad.
Well, gotta make my first post somewhere and might as well do it in a thread I've been lurking in for months. Could've maybe done it in a way that wasn't "well ackshully" during a discussion, I'll admit.
