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LessonsInDissonance

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I can actually think of many things that could happen worse than that

In my opinion the best event of the game, but there's definitely so many things I could come up with that would be much worse (But just because you can do bad things doesnt mean they would be a better event)
 
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Okay, having just played back through End of the World :)shudder:) I think it's clear it's a continuity error -- it's Maya talking to Akira, so he just forgot to put her in the correct costume, but just used her generic outfit instead.

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It's Ami in her Maya Halloween costume siting next to him. But this is after "Ami" or what appears to have been "Ami" was strung up with a bunch of knifes on the big letter thing in the hall.

I assume it's deliberate. However as someone else said there are plenty of things you can come up with to explain it or extrapolate meaning from it. But as of yet there doesn't seem to be anything that is clearly the correct lens to view it through.
 

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It's Ami in her Maya Halloween costume siting next to him. But this is after "Ami" or what appears to have been "Ami" was strung up with a bunch of knifes on the big letter thing in the hall.

I assume it's deliberate. However as someone else said there are plenty of things you can come up with to explain it or extrapolate meaning from it. But as of yet there doesn't seem to be anything that is clearly the correct lens to view it through.
Huh. But Ami is crucified out in the hall. And Maya is in the room, talking to Akira and trying to figure out what the heck Sana is doing :unsure:
 

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Huh. But Ami is crucified out in the hall. And Maya is in the room, talking to Akira and trying to figure out what the heck Sana is doing :unsure:
Maya is shown in the scene after coming back looking at Akira, Sana and Ami2 from the other side of the room, in her appropriate halloween outfit. But, most importantly, Maya doesn't have red hair nor eyes - the Ami2 that's by Akira's side does.
 

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I can actually think of many things that could happen worse than that

In my opinion the best event of the game, but there's definitely so many things I could come up with that would be much worse (But just because you can do bad things doesnt mean they would be a better event)
Yeah Selebus's comment is bait. Nao / Maya stomachache seem like very easy options with different enough backgrounds to not make it just feel like Stomachache 2 like Miku's event kinda did.
 
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LessonsInDissonance

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Yeah Selebus's comment is bait. Nao / Maya stomachache seem like very easy options with different enough backgrounds to not make it just feel like Stomachache 2 like Miku's event kinda did.
I didn't like the Miku event, I feel like it wasnt executed well, couldve been better
 

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Is there a reason why you have put Nozomu being the father to Chika, Yumi, Rin, and Sana? Has it ever been confirmed? Just asking because I think of all the characters, Nozomu is the character I know the least of. I assume its just an assumption that is there to make there be familial ties with certain characters, but is that it?
 

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Is there a reason why you have put Nozomu being the father to Chika, Yumi, Rin, and Sana? Has it ever been confirmed?
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But, to answer it properly, no. There has been no confirmation, actually, no information whatsoever regarding Nozomu. Most is that he was jealous of Sekai x Akira's relationship, that Ami considered him normal, and that he may have questioned Sekai about something during his last moments.

Anything other than that is highly speculative and filling gaps with Nozomu cause he's the one other masculine character we know that somewhat (very somewhat) fits. I follow none of these theories for instance, but they're prevalent enough among the community that it's valid to be there.

Edit: Aramaug has put forward speculation that Sekai might be sister to Tsubasa's husband, so there are definitely other speculations that aren't in the chart (like Nodoka being Akira's sister) - but they're, to my dislike, even less probable than Nozomu being the father of everyone else. Of these, him being the father to Sana is more likely (although still unlikely).
 

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Is there a reason why you have put Nozomu being the father to Chika, Yumi, Rin, and Sana? Has it ever been confirmed? Just asking because I think of all the characters, Nozomu is the character I know the least of. I assume its just an assumption that is there to make there be familial ties with certain characters, but is that it?
The basic idea is Nozomu could've been the teacher Sara fucked and got pregnant to, he might've knocked up Rin's mum who went insane leading to her being put into an orphanage, he may have been the one who fucked Yuki whilst she was passed out on heroin and he could've been the dickhead who walked out on Chiaki. Each one of these was put forth at some point by one or more of the theorycrafting gang, arguments made for and against, but with so little tangible information it's anyone's guess if there is anything to them.
 

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The basic idea is Nozomu could've been the teacher Sara fucked and got pregnant to, he might've knocked up Rin's mum who went insane leading to her being put into an orphanage, he may have been the one who fucked Yuki whilst she was passed out on heroin and he could've been the dickhead who walked out on Chiaki. Each one of these was put forth at some point by one or more of the theorycrafting gang, arguments made for and against, but with so little tangible information it's anyone's guess if there is anything to them.
To add further context, until we got the Yasu origin scene with the doctor, Yasu was on that "possibily fathered by Nozomu" list as well. We may or may not get additional information that rules out those four down the line.
 

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Was it actually confirmed that Nozomu was a teacher? I don't remember that, but it would make sense, given that Sekai was a teacher. And she was, apparently, teaching at Sara's school.
So if we assume Nozomu got to know Sekai through work, it would make it actually highly likely for him to be Sana's Dad. Or at least it would make too much sense for it to be a coincidence.

For the others, I don't really see a direct connection yet. It would just make sense in a way that it would be the exact kind of fuckery that could be expected of Sel.
 

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So if we assume Nozomu got to know Sekai through work, it would make it actually highly likely for him to be Sana's Dad.
You and I have different definitions of "highly likely". There has been absolutely no evidence to say Nozomu is doing all of this, outside of people trying to connect things together here in this thread
 

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You and I have different definitions of "highly likely". There has been absolutely no evidence to say Nozomu is doing all of this, outside of people trying to connect things together here in this thread
It was penciled in as a possibility quite some time ago, but all the god fuckery surrounding Sana and Sara's talking about blackouts likely made a lot of people overwrite that with ink, as that parentage would explain why divine shit happens around them.

It could also potentially explain Rin hearing clocks.

The case gets weaker for Chika (who has shown no signs of divine fuckery) and Yumi (who isn't a party to said fuckery, but it happens in her vicinity)
 

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It was penciled in as a possibility quite some time ago, but all the god fuckery surrounding Sana and Sara's talking about blackouts likely made a lot of people overwrite that with ink, as that parentage would explain why divine shit happens around them.
Right but again, the only evidence is highly circumstantial. With the number of people who are affected by supernatural elements in this story, if everyone was related to Akira or Nozomu then the gene pool would be as deep as a glass of water.

I'm not saying it's a bad theory or that I'm even against it, I'm just not the kind of person who can solidify an opinion without a bit more author ... authority, like the Ayane pregnancy situation.

That said, if Sara ever mentions Nozomu being her ex-lover, I'll buy you a Coke.
 

DeanNoriko

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You and I have different definitions of "highly likely". There has been absolutely no evidence to say Nozomu is doing all of this, outside of people trying to connect things together here in this thread
To be fair, "highly likely" was probably a bad choice of wording on my part.
It would make Sana be the most likely connection to Nozomu, out of all the potential bastard daughters. It's not anywhere near confirmed, as you said, there is no real evidence to that at all, but it's hinting towards that from various directions.

During Sana's most recent visit in the TSS shadow LEGENDS™ realm, Pegasus basically makes it clear that he wants to inseminate Sana and hints at having done that to Sara in the past. Or at least that's how I would interpret the following sentence.
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So I think it's possible that Sara's teacher was being possessed, or at least influenced, by Pegasus, maybe also HOPE, when he impregnated her. Similar to how Sensei often gets possessed or is being taken over by various entities.
To me, it would be a little random if that happened to just be some unnamed teacher. Instead, it would be somewhat logical if it runs in the family and Nozomu was the one involved. After all the teacher was supposed to be a family man.
Now I'm not as versed with the timeline as the lore masters, but I think it would fit his profile. Besides, Nozomu, the god, is basically either HOPE or connected to HOPE, so it would fit from that perspective as well.

Similarly, it seems a little convenient that Rin does not know anything about her biological parents, except that her Mom was crazy and a slut (if I remember correctly?) and her Dad a scumbag. Yumi's Dad basically raped a passed out druggie. And Chika/Chinami's Dad also was not around.
They all have traits in common, and while it would be absolutely possible for them to be just three different bad dudes, it is awfully vague enough to leave the possibility of there being some higher entity involved that coordinated this.

Again, I might be wrong with a lot of what I'm bringing forth, and I'm not as knowledgeable with the gods and the connections and everything, but I feel like there has been a lot of stuff that hints strongly towards this being a real possibility.

Also, it kind of makes me want to replay the game for the first time finally, to just refresh on a lot of things and make it easier to connect the dots. But I feel like it would take forever at this point.
 
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