Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

[throwawaysponge]

I generally agree with this idea. Renpy style games could do without the grinding, but having definite stops to do things at the players own pace, or access repeatables, secondary gameplay elements or such adds something to the experience. It's mostly monkey brain logic, but the illusion of choice makes it still feel somewhat like a game, rather than just reading.

LiL is probably one of the worst examples for it, though. No hints, many events obscurely hidden, a huge number of them only trigger on specific days, grinding for point requirements to start them rather than just click to start the next part, no secondary gameplay elements other than the repeatables which only get variation maybe once per chapter. And the ever present concern that the next event will lock you into a long chain with an obnoxious puzzle.
I recall someone referring to LiL's gameplay loop as hostile, which I think is pretty accurate.

You definitely explained it better than i did so thank you lol. I probably would have quit if the wiki didn't exist and i used that until i knew this thread and the guide mod existed. On top of that i don't 'struggle' but I'm just always curious as to the alt paths on games like Secrets of Sorcery/Crimson high/ (thank you Deskel for these suggestions but aaa.) running like 10+ saves at this point in multiple renpy games because a number was mentioned once or a fucking random phrase has become a thing I do and i genuinely hate the fact Sele has made me that paranoid.

The fact that LiL is so popular and i guess 'iconic' means many games are picking up the negative tropes at the same time as the tropes that may be beneficial instead

(I am a massive slut for the banger of an OST and it's almost always appropriate usage of such, it has been declining IMO recently however, ignoring the "Good kids" drama the tracks have been kind of lazily slapped together and i hope Sele gets their shit together again.)

 

[lolzmandude]

you and me both... pal?

 

[shmurfer]

Uhhh I feel like I need more information to go off of but if you mean there's something specific I need to do in that happy event I don't think I'm opposed to knowing what that would be. I'm still on my first playthrough so I don't have a completed save.

In 0.45 a secret happy event was added to Amy that you can only experience by having completed 0.45 (Technically seeing one sentence play from a specific event. It even works if you watch said event in a replay since it still correctly sets the persistent variable.

You can either make a specific save before doing "Amy" so you can return to it later on (since both unlocking the happy event and the marker for completing the happy event are persistent variables that exist outside of each individual save)

Or we could look at providing a save, or just giving you instructions to either set the variable itself, or I could give you the label of the event you could set to play in replay mode via URM. (Though it's an oddly spoilery sex scene from 0.45 and the line you need to witness is from the black screen dialogue that happens after many scenes)

 

[lolzmandude]

In 0.45 a secret happy event was added to Amy that you can only experience by having completed 0.45 (Technically seeing one sentence play from a specific event. It even works if you watch said event in a replay since it still correctly sets the persistent variable.

You can either make a specific save before doing "Amy" so you can return to it later on (since both unlocking the happy event and the marker for completing the happy event are persistent variables that exist outside of each individual save)

Or we could look at providing a save, or just giving you instructions to either set the variable itself, or I could give you the label of the event you could set to play in replay mode via URM. (Though it's an oddly spoilery sex scene from 0.45 and the line you need to witness is from the black screen dialogue that happens after many scenes)

I can make an extra save for that and come back to it. I'd just have to remember.

 

[kitsunedawn]

She'd had the sense that she was going to get reset for the last two resets. I think she finally realized it was going ot happen for sure and opted to go out with a bang.

I think she kinda figured something like that would happen the moment that Sensei went through the reset, and realized that things would return to 'normal' in her brain with her memories erased; and just decided to roll with it. At the same time, she also tried to teach Sensei as much as she could about what was happening.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

I can make an extra save for that and come back to it. I'd just have to remember.

Yeahhh man, I wouldn’t stress too much over it tbh. Just enjoy the story.

My advice would simply be: as soon as you start the Amy Happy Event, save the game into an additional slot. After that, don’t touch that save file again and carry on as normal. You’ll know how to use it when the time comes.

 

[lolzmandude]

Yeahhh man, I wouldn’t stress too much over it tbh. Just enjoy the story.

My advice would simply be: as soon as you start the Amy Happy Event, save the game into an additional slot. After that, don’t touch that save file again and carry on as normal. You’ll know how to use it when the time comes.

oh, I saved like. on the sunday decision menu to go there, should I save in the event itself instead?
edit: well, I've done both now

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

oh, I saved like. on the sunday decision menu to go there, should I save in the event itself instead?
edit: well, I've done both now

Either is fine. So long as it’s before the event concludes. You’re good.

 

[barglenarglezous]

I think she kinda figured something like that would happen the moment that Sensei went through the reset, and realized that things would return to 'normal' in her brain with her memories erased; and just decided to roll with it. At the same time, she also tried to teach Sensei as much as she could about what was happening.

The whole story of Altair and Vega on their date is telegraphing what's coming. Now that he's coming back to himself, it's only a matter of time before she loses herself. Like Altair and Vega, they are ships passing in the night. Any time they get together as their true selves is fleeting. Once she recognized him as himself, and not the echo of himself he had been for so many cycles, she knew her remaining time was limited.

 

[lolzmandude]

So... the beach/dorm war event is done... and I feel this is a time where logic would dictate that I probably shouldn't complete Ami's two new lust requirements but I'm going to do that anyway because I must see all of the scenes because that is my duty probably.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

So... the beach/dorm war event is done... and I feel this is a time where logic would dictate that I probably shouldn't complete Ami's two new lust requirements but I'm going to do that anyway because I must see all of the scenes because that is my duty probably.

//////////////////////THAT'S RIGHT, YOU MUST FOLLOW THE GREEN PATH

 

[lolzmandude]

//////////////////////THAT'S RIGHT, YOU MUST FOLLOW THE GREEN PATH

I hate this so much but I'm in far too deep and I hate it.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

I hate this so much but I'm in far too deep and I hate it.

 

[<Eldrick>]

Guys, now I have a big question: the games that were abandoned and the developers gave up, can anyone who wants to have possession of them to revive them or not?

 

[lolzmandude]

I feel like this probably called someone out and I think that's very funny.

 

[lolzmandude]

//////////////////////THAT'S RIGHT, YOU MUST FOLLOW THE GREEN PATH

yep... my fears are realized. I've made mistakes.

 

[DeanNoriko]

Guys, now I have a big question: the games that were abandoned and the developers gave up, can anyone who wants to have possession of them to revive them or not?

This game is far from abandoned - in fact, this is probably one the most regularly updated titles that are being uploaded on this site.

So there is no need to revive anything, if that is what you are asking.

 

[<Eldrick>]

This game is far from abandoned - in fact, this is probably one the most regularly updated titles that are being uploaded on this site.

So there is no need to revive anything, if that is what you are asking.

No friend, I'm not talking about Lesson in love, because it's clear that Lesson in love will never end and it's one of my best games, I'm talking about the other games that were abandoned that were abandoned like 5 or 6 years ago.

 

[VoidExile]

A line from todays reaction story spoiler thingy.
Chapter 1 took me a little more than 2 weeks to complete and 117337 characters worth of text. That should be around 30-40k more than my previous best(or worst?). I don't know what I have in total on Eternum but I know for a fact this game will beat the length of that... unless it already has. Also 290 in-game days or 17 real life days.

 

[somepersonoutofnowhere]

No friend, I'm not talking about Lesson in love, because it's clear that Lesson in love will never end and it's one of my best games, I'm talking about the other games that were abandoned that were abandoned like 5 or 6 years ago.

Assuming you mean OTHER games (not the prequel of LiL which isn't really abandoned and it is instead TEMPORARILY abandoned then fully developed after LiL) then just ask the creator of it BUT FIRST investigate WHY it was abandoned.

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Send me the video link

Also I hope no one here is going to spend the entire new years eve thinking the update is going to release around that time.