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KnowNoHope

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Selebus reads forums, you know. I feel like the more you complain about it , the more he will put those into the game.
I don't really think I complained or nagged about it, pretty sure I came off fairly ambivalent and offered mild criticism for placement. If fourth wall breaks happen right before a major event constantly the tone of a horror denpa game is going to feel more like a black comedy which I'm all for if that is the direction selebus is going, but I don't think it was.
 

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I don't really think I complained or nagged about it, pretty sure I came off fairly ambivalent and offered mild criticism for placement
Fair enough, maybe it wasn't you last time talking about 4th wall breaks. I any case, I don't mind people complaining at all, I'm just issuing a warning.
 
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KnowNoHope

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Fair enough, maybe it wasn't you last time talking about 4th wall breaks. I any case, I don't mind people complaining at all, I'm just issuing a warning.
no, I think this was the first time I brought it up. I guess the reason for so many this update was because others were complaining about the rather moderate amount in previous updates
 

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no, I think this was the first time I brought it up. I guess the reason for so many this update was because others were complaining about the rather moderate amount in previous updates
To be fair this update has a decent amount of Molly and Molly is the one that breaks the 4th wall the most.
 

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Thank you, Selebus, for that mirror link on your SubscribeStar. MEGA is totally out since the game instantly hits the cap and Google is unavailable because so many people used it.

You know if people keep leaking early, Selebus will really have to sell RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS spots in every update...
He'd be brilliant at it if he did, judging by that one Molly event.

Man, I really have to say this
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We knew from the very beginning she is bi leaning toward other girls, so it isn't a surprise that she latched on to another girl. Rejection by Otoha was the quickest path for us, but at the same time, it had a distinct and very large risk of causing her depression to take a more permanent bad turn that could have robbed us of any chance with her completely. We may actually have Otoha's acceptance to thank for Rin still being available, you know, once things clear up between them and Rin backs off.

Something makes me wonder. Unless I'm grossly misremembering, it seemed pretty clear that Sensei had some kind of inappropriate relationship with Ami's mother, his brother's wife if I recall correctly?
Now I'm not sure of the timelines here, but is it possible that Ami is actually his own daughter? Is this something that has been proposed or discussed previously? I'm curious if there's something that invalidates that possibility. It would certainly give some context as to why the universe so violently rejects making her call you daddy, but not mommy...
She lost her parents and the trauma still haunts her to the point that she once slipped into calling out for her father during sex with you. I would say that she is related through her parents and Sensei is not one of them, but that she is so broken by the trauma that she lapses into seeing them at times, but I don't know for sure.

maybe it's because she lost her father in the accident? Having her call Sensei daddy after something like that happened is outright bogus dude
Indeed, I think doing that just dug up something severely traumatic.

I'm actually quite okay with not having that sort of relationship with Rin...
she's a mess.
She'll probably get sorted out eventually, though how far this goes is uncertain given the genre of the game. I would say she won't be totally back to her old self until the purity routes IF they go there. However, she may gain enough back to be safely romanceable.

I am looking forward to when miku gets into tojo ramen and the power goes out

but damn selebus put way to many 4th wall breaks in this update... I think every event had at least 2 except 2 of them. Doesn't really bother me much, just constant breaks in immersion is kind of off-putting. lessened the impact of what rin did when molly was breaking the 4th wall so many times right before it.
4th wall breaks just give me emotional de-investment which then made something that would normal be a major emotional whiplash for me way less impactful.
really 4th wall breaks dont bother me, but maybe not do them right before trying to have a serious moment.
The poor girl would freak if that happened, especially if it made a loud bang, though I'm guessing that's where you were going with Miku. Feel free to tell me if I'm wrong.

Selebus reads forums, you know. I feel like the more you complain about it , the more he will put those into the game.
Have we not learned our lesson from the puzzle complaints? :p Yes, if we complain, he will simply add more. Remember, he's making this game for him and letting us play it, so he's doing it as he wants it.

I don't really think I complained or nagged about it, pretty sure I came off fairly ambivalent and offered mild criticism for placement. If fourth wall breaks happen right before a major event constantly the tone of a horror denpa game is going to feel more like a black comedy which I'm all for if that is the direction selebus is going, but I don't think it was.
He may be trying to add a black comedy element to the game while maintaining the Denpa elements, a hard balance, I must say.

Fair enough, maybe it wasn't you last time talking about 4th wall breaks. I any case, I don't mind people complaining at all, I'm just issuing a warning.
Good idea, Selebus is known to take complaints in the complete opposite direction intended by the person who complained. Again I cite the puzzles, in fact, he specifically started adding the puzzles because people complained about something else.

no, I think this was the first time I brought it up. I guess the reason for so many this update was because others were complaining about the rather moderate amount in previous updates
It does seem plausible.
That probably is the case. Complain and you shall receive.

To be fair this update has a decent amount of Molly and Molly is the one that breaks the 4th wall the most.
True
 
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Something makes me wonder. Unless I'm grossly misremembering, it seemed pretty clear that Sensei had some kind of inappropriate relationship with Ami's mother, his brother's wife if I recall correctly?
Now I'm not sure of the timelines here, but is it possible that Ami is actually his own daughter? Is this something that has been proposed or discussed previously? I'm curious if there's something that invalidates that possibility. It would certainly give some context as to why the universe so violently rejects making her call you daddy, but not mommy...
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Ami is Sensei's daughter by his sister-in-law, with whom he had a relationship that was deeply unhealthy and fucked-up on top of being adulterous. There are a lot of hints: the time she calls you Daddy in a sex scene, Sensei's musing that she feels more like a daughter than a niece, the time Ami asks if she had an incest baby with Sensei would Sensei fuck their daughter.

That said, I'm also not convinced that Ami is real. She glitches out in ways no other character does, including when Sensei isn't around and you can't just blame it on Sensei seeing things that aren't happening. There is discussion of dream-babies in the first reset event. There's a lot of content related to dead babies, either babies that never survived pregnancy or died shortly after birth. So in this weird reality which was explicitly born of wish-fulfillment, "the child that died lived instead" seems like a thing that might be going on.
 

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I feel like I'll be a fucking criminal, if I don't praise visuals in the last Tsuneyo event, Things Like Stairs. They are simply amazing. Selebus once again surpassed himself in terms of setting a scene. Lighting, shadows, colors, camera angles... Pure art. For me this entire event was a main highlight for the update, not Rin's something-something.
 

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Something makes me wonder. Unless I'm grossly misremembering, it seemed pretty clear that Sensei had some kind of inappropriate relationship with Ami's mother, his brother's wife if I recall correctly?
Now I'm not sure of the timelines here, but is it possible that Ami is actually his own daughter? Is this something that has been proposed or discussed previously? I'm curious if there's something that invalidates that possibility. It would certainly give some context as to why the universe so violently rejects making her call you daddy, but not mommy...
The happy scene with the alphabet song implies that young Sensei was seduced by his sister-in-law.

One interpretation of that scene is that Ami and Maya sitting next to him represent two possibilities, and Maya's toy ejaculating indicates that she's the child born from that seduction -- though another interpretation of that scene is that the toys represent Sensei impregnating Maya but not Ami and has nothing to do with either girl's parentage.

It is entirely possible that Sensei is Ami's father, but Ami probably wouldn't know that. The people who would know are dead, as if Ami is mourning her father's death, it's unlikely that she was told her true father prior to the accident.

There's a theory on the discord that Ami is actually dead, and I really wish Discord laid out posts in a better way because I'd love to see the justification for that theory.

I am pretty sure that Miku and Kaori were also present for the accident that killed Ami's parents. Miku shows a severe PTSD response to the sounds that a horrific accident would make, and Yumi tells us
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. I'm also pretty sure that the accident happened at the site of the possum skeleton referenced a few times, as swerving to avoid an animal in the road is a common trope for fatal accidents in fiction.

It is possible Ami died in that accident and that the Ami we see is a shared memory -- this would explain why she isn't developing like the other girls and why she glitches out. It's also possible she never actually existed, and that she's a manifestation of one of the gods (implied by the early happy scenes, where a contorted Ami appears to counter AmIOkay.

And then there's the name AmIOkay itself -- it uses Maya's face, but the first three letters literally spell Ami's name, and "Ami Okay" could be a signal to us in and of itself.

This is, after all, a game about duality. "The town has two halves" is constantly reinforced, and Sensei brings up just how different the two halves are at every opportunity. Ami and Maya could be two sides of a single person.

To a lesser extent, this could also be true of each of the other dorms, as nearly all the girls are rooming with a personality opposite -- antisocial Yumi and hypersocial Chika, Academic Makoto and athletic Miku, shy Sana and outgoing Ayane, etc. Each room gives off strong left brain/right brain vibes.
 

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I am looking forward to when miku gets into tojo ramen and the power goes out

but damn selebus put way to many 4th wall breaks in this update... I think every event had at least 2 except 2 of them. Doesn't really bother me much, just constant breaks in immersion is kind of off-putting. lessened the impact of what rin did when molly was breaking the 4th wall so many times right before it.
4th wall breaks just give me emotional de-investment which then made something that would normal be a major emotional whiplash for me way less impactful.
really 4th wall breaks dont bother me, but maybe not do them right before trying to have a serious moment.
I think this is a fair thing to bring up, and doesn't feel like a complaint like others have said before. Don't think this'll irk sel to the point of adding more, because it's not like you were shitting on them. +1 from me
 

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This one relates to Maya, thought.
Here's the first time it's brought up: 1634323198408.png
You'll note that Maya being a dream baby is dismissed and instead it's Ami who is considered. And then the second time it's brought up:
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61, whose name in hex translates to "am i okay", talks about making another Ami from dream-sex.
 
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These look great. Awesome job.
 
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Alderon55

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Binged through this game just prior to the latest update. Got totally lost in it for a few days and was disappointed to eventually be caught up. Really enjoying the ride, Selebus. Your writing is very high quality and while I do struggle to 'connect' with Sensei, I don't think we as the audience are really supposed to anyway, so y'know, no big deal.

Is it weird that I both simultaneously want to see lewd Sana scenes and never see lewd Sana scenes? o_O
 
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