Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

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ciderapple

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magrao121 said:
Knew about this game for about 1 year and sometimes I return to this thread to look and I always see someone complaining about sex scenes being removed and there's someone answering that its for patreon. god have patience.
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I'd say a year (or perhaps more at this point..) Should be plenty enough patience, especially if we are talking about a developer having a temper tantrum and yanking content in retalliation. That's just a bad move all around. There is no need to punish your entire viewer base just to 'get back' on a few troublemakers.

(I believe it's been a lot longer than a year by now... I can't remember the exact date the content was pulled, but it feels like a lot longer than a year.)
 
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moodle said:
It... doesn't, though. It sounds like you may have been playing the Huggy Boy version, from back when Patreon made him censor the game?
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possibly? I only downloaded the version that was available here though. So i suspect we had the wrong version for a while too then? Like I said, i'm downloading the current one now from the gofile link from the first post. I'll find out in 3 or 4 hours once that finishes.

And yes, Patreon sucks for creators. Use Subscribestar instead.
 
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ciderapple said:
I'd say a year (or perhaps more at this point..) Should be plenty enough patience, especially if we are talking about a developer having a temper tantrum and yanking content in retalliation. That's just a bad move all around. There is no need to punish your entire viewer base just to 'get back' on a few troublemakers.

(I believe it's been a lot longer than a year by now... I can't remember the exact date the content was pulled, but it feels like a lot longer than a year.)
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You seem to be misunderstanding the situation and mixing up rework with patreon family friendly version. He just did two versions of the game (sanitized one and lewd one) for a while to retain spot on Patreon, because they were digging earth beneath him. They dropped him anyway so he droped kid friendly version. He never stopped developing the original lewd one and certainly never pulled content in retaliation.
 
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ciderapple said:
I'd say a year (or perhaps more at this point..) Should be plenty enough patience, especially if we are talking about a developer having a temper tantrum and yanking content in retalliation. That's just a bad move all around. There is no need to punish your entire viewer base just to 'get back' on a few troublemakers.

(I believe it's been a lot longer than a year by now... I can't remember the exact date the content was pulled, but it feels like a lot longer than a year.)
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No content was yanked because of a tantrum. Now you're just making shit up.

When he started the game, he wanted to get eyeballs on the game, and felt he had to have some early sex content to make that happen -- that a slow burn would never gain traction. So a couple of the girls jump into sexy time straight out of the gate. But that never sat well with him, so once the game had a following, he started making plans to rework the early game to stretch out the pacing for those girls. He first announced this around the start of chapter 2.

Patreon forced his hand around November/December of 2021, so he had to go through and make a sanitized version of the game for Patreon, with a subscriber patch that would unlock the actual version of the game. That appeased Patreon for all of two months, and in January of last year they deleted the page. Chapter 2 wrapped in February, and he started on the rework he had been planning for over a year at this point. Patreon had nothing to do with the major rework, Patreon had already burned that bridge before work even started.

Sex was removed from the early game because he never wanted it to be there in the first place. He had compromised his vision for the game to get attention early on, and once he had a following, he un-fucked what he believed he had fucked up.

It wasn't a tantrum, it was reshaping the early game to match what he wanted it to be.
 
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ciderapple said:
possibly? I only downloaded the version that was available here though. So i suspect we had the wrong version for a while too then? Like I said, i'm downloading the current one now from the gofile link from the first post. I'll find out in 3 or 4 hours once that finishes.

And yes, Patreon sucks for creators. Use Subscribestar instead.
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Ever since the Huggy Boy incident, there's been an issue with compressed/Android files. Unless the person doing the conversion is making sure they get included, two folders get left out that censor the game. So you may have thought you were downloading the proper version, and accidentally gotten a censored version instead.
 
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lardtree90

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Vertius said:
Do you mind telling me what happened? I haven't been in this thread in a long time and am out of the loop.
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Short version is the dev dislikes the game being pirated when it's literally released for free and the subscription is just to get it early. While anyone using this site coming out against piracy is probably going to be shouted down and while I may not agree with this dev on everything, I can't blame him for being pissed at something that cuts into his pay when that something can be gotten for free if people could just fucking wait a bit. I personally use this site to try out games to see if they are worth paying for and see what the update schedule is like. I've been a patron of this game since something like update 8.0 and don't regret it even if I don't like everything in the story.

That being said, a forum full of pirates who get offended at the mere suggestion of paying for something probably is going to clash with a dev who has the sheer gall to voice their displeasure at potential loss of revenue. The dev's admittedly large ego doesn't do them any favors in this regard.
 
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That was a pretty damn good update, lots of good stuff, Sekai and Maya were the stand outs for me, and Akira eh? Works well enough for me.
 
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barglenarglezous said:
He barely goes for milfs, yet is still constantly trying to sleep with every single one he meets.
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Hey, it's not his fault they like all like him inexplicably, ok? What is he supposed to do, turn them all down? I'm sure, if it was up to him, he would've proven his innocence by going only after girls in puberty like any normal pedohpile would.
 
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moodle said:
I am pretty sure you're not going to like it.

He's got the standard obsessive-artist personality traits: he really cares about people experiencing it the way he intended (e.g. struggling to unlock events) and tries to make certain things in the game actively offputting so that only the people interested in the sort of denpa story he wants to tell will keep going (originally the sexual content came a lot earlier and was more straightforwardly erotic, now it comes later and is much more fucked-up).

But you also get the perks of him being an obsessive artist, like "a better release schedule than literally any other H-game dev" and "a really involved story that fleshes out dozens of characters." So you take the bad with the good. He's nowhere in the same galaxy as Yandere Dev.

It... doesn't, though. It sounds like you may have been playing the Huggy Boy version, from back when Patreon made him censor the game?
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While a lot of this makes sense, it doesn't fill me with confidence to keep following this game. The frustration abou the event tracking in this game is one of my primary beefs so I doubt if I'll contuing to try and figure things out if the developer doens't want to meet somewhere closer in the middle on this.
 
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Bingoogus said:
That was a pretty damn good update, lots of good stuff, Sekai and Maya were the stand outs for me, and Akira eh? Works well enough for me.
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I thought the writing had fallen off considerably around the early 20s updates, and combined with Sel's attitude towards his own players, I was pretty prepared to bail on my subscription to him... but the last few updates have been really good and interesting, more focused and it seems like the story isn't just spinning its wheels as much.
 
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Raf-Raf said:
Just...try not to lose your sanity in the process even if it's inevitable. :KEK:
And if you're stuck, just search ze answers in this forum 'coz 883 pages is more than enough to contain all ze answers you need.
I am going to compile all the f-ing answers when I find them all so none would suffer like I did.
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I'll use the guide mod, it should be enough but if i cant figure something out, ill come by and ask.
 
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LauraBurn

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Can someone help me find where the save files are stored for this game? I didn't find it in the usual \AppData\Roaming\RenPy folders unless it has a strange name
 
akselx

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vehemental said:
Sensei has had sex with 60% of the MILFs he has met. Compare that to less than 20% for the teenagers he's met and it paints a different picture ;)
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We both know he's doing it out of necessity. Everybody knows what his heart truly lies towards.
 
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