Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

[AgumenticR]

This is uhhh exactly what happened though

Eh, one cast expansion two years ago is not what I would call a feature creep, on the account of the lack of creep. It becomes a real problem when new characters just keep appearing one update after another, because it indicates the lack of an overall plan and the author just repeating the beginnings of character arcs instead of developing them further and/or moving the plot. Just expanding the scope of the game has its own difficulties, but at least the game can still be on rails to completion.

 

[KnowNoHope]

Eh, one cast expansion two years ago is not what I would call a feature creep, on the account of the lack of creep. It becomes a real problem when new characters just keep appearing one update after another, because it indicates the lack of an overall plan and the author just repeating the beginnings of character arcs instead of developing them further and/or moving the plot. Just expanding the scope of the game has its own difficulties, but at least the game can still be on rails to completion.

all of those characters did not just appear all at once, they were dripped in over several updates. this also resulted in longer periods of time where characters got ignored for awhile, and in some cases ignored at rather pivotal situations that made no sense to get ignored over. The cast expansion wasn't badly done though, but it definitely had these issues popping up time to time.
as for feature creep that is actually considered bad in this game by a lot players. it does have some gimmicky 'minigames' add in features like 'care packages' and its starting to get a bit... much. anymore than this and i think it would cross the tipping point.
i wonder if sel ever considered just calling the 'care packages' what they are as loot boxes and attach a random number generator to it so you have no clue what feature you get in the box when people purchase it, you know go full EA games on it

 

[moodle]

i wonder if sel ever considered just calling the 'care packages' what they are as loot boxes and attach a random number generator to it so you have no clue what feature you get in the box when people purchase it, you know go full EA games on it

I mean, the point of the care packages was to encourage people to actually subscribe and get cool bonuses instead of pirating the subscriber edition, and it seems to have worked because the care packages get removed by the mods when they get leaked.

Really, folks here have only themselves to blame if they dislike care packages. If y'all just waited for the subscriber edition to be released for free after two weeks, the care packages would never have been made; Sel was dealing with several months in a row of the update being leaked within the first day and losing subs as a result. That's why he started doing it: to reverse the decline in subscribers. And it worked!

(I've been subbed nonstop for a year and a half, so the care packages are more of a cool bonus for what I would be doing anyway. That said, I think I'd prefer the world in which Selebus used the time he spent on the care packages on the game itself, or just on relaxing so that he doesn't burn out after big updates like he's dealing with right now.)

 

[KnowNoHope]

I mean, the point of the care packages was to encourage people to actually subscribe and get cool bonuses instead of pirating the subscriber edition, and it seems to have worked because the care packages get removed by the mods when they get leaked.

Really, folks here have only themselves to blame if they dislike care packages. If y'all just waited for the subscriber edition to be released for free after two weeks, the care packages would never have been made; Sel was dealing with several months in a row of the update being leaked within the first day and losing subs as a result. That's why he started doing it: to reverse the decline in subscribers. And it worked!

(I've been subbed nonstop for a year and a half, so the care packages are more of a cool bonus for what I would be doing anyway. That said, I think I'd prefer the world in which Selebus used the time he spent on the care packages on the game itself, or just on relaxing so that he doesn't burn out after big updates like he's dealing with right now.)

ok, but that wasn't my point at all. guy makes 6 figure + a year working solo on a game he has full creative control over regardless of pirating and then does borderline EA gacha style money making schemes. I've seen the road most games go down when they do shit like this and it isn't pretty. let's hope the game doesn't go down in flames through frustrating paywalls and what not. and i gave over 60 bucks in donations before pulling it because paying anything more for a VN is ridiculous

 

[DabbyDan]

Does somebody have save file before "second reboot" and christmas?

 

[ZathuraVentura]

On the topic of Care Packages, has anyone figured out the password for the third package?

 

[moodle]

ok, but that wasn't my point at all. guy makes 6 figure + a year working solo on a game he has full creative control over regardless of pirating and then does borderline EA gacha style money making schemes. I've seen the road most games go down when they do shit like this and it isn't pretty. let's hope the game doesn't go down in flames through frustrating paywalls and what not. and i gave over 60 bucks in donations before pulling it because paying anything more for a VN is ridiculous

The thing that makes gachas terrible isn't that the companies sell extras to their games, it's that the companies sell you only a chance of getting the things you actually want and get you to gamble. The care packages are all preannounced and contain exactly what they say they will (plus the letters, which are a neat little extra).

With regard to paywalls, he's said that the story will always be available for free and the stuff in care package are pure extras, like bonus menus on movie DVDs. I agree that if he started paywalling a story that has always been available for free if you're willing to wait two weeks, that would be bullshit and I would probably pull my support in protest.

 

[Black Raven]

ok, but that wasn't my point at all. guy makes 6 figure + a year working solo on a game he has full creative control over regardless of pirating and then does borderline EA gacha style money making schemes. I've seen the road most games go down when they do shit like this and it isn't pretty. let's hope the game doesn't go down in flames through frustrating paywalls and what not. and i gave over 60 bucks in donations before pulling it because paying anything more for a VN is ridiculous

But it's not random. The EA-like gacha BS relies on gambling addiction mechanism, which does not not apply here. You know ahead of time what you will get in a specific month care package. You can even buy them individually for half the sub price after two months.

All Selebus did was add more incentive for people to sub. And sure, he did that because he wants even more money. But comparing that to the AAA's dumbfuckery is unfair IMO.

 

[hcguy]

And sure, he did that because he wants even more money.

Nothing wrong with that.

 

[KnowNoHope]

The thing that makes gachas terrible isn't that the companies sell extras to their games, it's that the companies sell you only a chance of getting the things you actually want and get you to gamble. The care packages are all preannounced and contain exactly what they say they will (plus the letters, which are a neat little extra).

With regard to paywalls, he's said that the story will always be available for free and the stuff in care package are pure extras, like bonus menus on movie DVDs. I agree that if he started paywalling a story that has always been available for free if you're willing to wait two weeks, that would be bullshit and I would probably pull my support in protest.

But it's not random. The EA-like gacha BS relies on gambling addiction mechanism, which does not not apply here. You know ahead of time what you will get in a specific month care package. You can even buy them individually for half the sub price after two months.

All Selebus did was add more incentive for people to sub. And sure, he did that because he wants even more money. But comparing that to the AAA's dumbfuckery is unfair IMO.

i was saying it is BORDERLINE EA gacha style fuckery, not that it was. the next logical steps of the monetization process would lead into these things and its concerning when ever I see the first steps towards it. it always starts with DLC and horse armor. Also I am genuinely hoping that I'm wrong and it doesn't go past what it currently is.

 

[Bingoogus]

horse armor

Ahhh that takes me back...

 

[kasatik_spb]

Hi!
Here is the Russian translation of Lessons in Love [v0.28.0].
This translation is "unofficial".

The link is: Here


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Привет!
Это перевод на Русский язык визуальной новеллы Lessons in Love [v0.28.0].
Этот перевод является неофициальным.

Ссылка : Здесь

 

[choaklee]

Hi,

My last saved file is at the end of 0.26 part 3, and it is completely broken. Does anyone has the saved file at the end of 0.26 part 3?

Thanks

 

[nogare369]

I can't trigger Wither, and I can't understand why. I've followed the wiki, I've done (or missed) all events, I'm definitely past the required day, and I've done the happy event "Good Boy". I am very confused.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

I can't trigger Wither, and I can't understand why. I've followed the wiki, I've done (or missed) all events, I'm definitely past the required day, and I've done the happy event "Good Boy". I am very confused.

Just to clarify. You have tried calling Kaori on Saturday Night yes?

 

[CMPunk434]

How to solve the broken world, I wake up and go places but there's noone there. What to do?

 

[KnowNoHope]

How to solve the broken world, I wake up and go places but there's noone there. What to do?

HEY YOU!

YES YOU!

YOU WANT ANSWERS!

TO BAD!

CAUSE ALL I GOT IS TICKETS TO ROCKAPOLUZA THIS SUNDAY AT THE KUMONMI HIGH SCHOOL

PRAY you can still get tickets in time

With special meet and greet guest appearance by pop idol Niki Nakayama who can suck the electroplated coating off a plastic doorknob in under 5 minutes and has a handshake to kill fooooooooooor!

BE THERE OR BE SQUARE

 

[nogare369]

Just to clarify. You have tried calling Kaori on Saturday Night yes?

Yes, I have called her on Saturday Night. It only triggers the usual sequence; that she's busy, and that Sensei decides to call someone else.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Yes, I have called her on Saturday Night. It only triggers the usual sequence; that she's busy, and that Sensei decides to call someone else.

Maybe you're missing another event, I know I was stuck on this till i got a Karin event I was missing without knowing.

 

[nogare369]

I've completed (or missed) all events that are visible.