Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

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TheSeedy1

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Fire Lord Zuko said:
We got some bangers in terms of events coming up too. 3 Io events, 2 Uta, 2 Noriko, 2 Imani, 2 Wakana, not to mention Yasu’s 3 events are no doubt gonna go fuckin’ insane with how she’s been foreshadowing certain things. And that’s obviously not even all of them.
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I am VERY keen on the Uta and Noriko events - Noriko needs a fucking win at this point and the goddamn blue balling going on with Uta needs to end dammit.
 
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TheSeedy1 said:
I am VERY keen on the Uta and Noriko events - Noriko needs a fucking win at this point and the goddamn blue balling going on with Uta needs to end dammit.
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Yeah, kind of hard not to root for Noriko after her, well, being:
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At this point, if she and Sensei even end up bonding over MLP porn games together, I'd count that as a win for her:
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I do think that Uta's "will they won't they" thing, can't last much longer, though, especially after she found out about the pic.
 
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LoveBlueHairedGirl said:
As I remember, someone posted here that some of the wiki moderators were against loli content, so they left the wiki.
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I still find it strange that they say it's because of this, because since chapter 2 it was very clear that this exists/already existed in the game, so for me it doesn't make sense that they're only talking about it now.
 
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Pedro4545454 said:
I still find it strange that they say it's because of this, because since chapter 2 it was very clear that this exists/already existed in the game, so for me it doesn't make sense that they're only talking about it now.
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Doesn't really have to make sense to us Pedro, if i recall it was actually just one dude who bailed for that reason, but we each draw our own lines in the sand and it's easy for it to seem entirely arbitrary where others draw their lines. Guy got icked and noped out at a spot that was too ick for him to persist with, it happens.
 
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Bingoogus said:
but we each draw our own lines in the sand and it's easy for it to seem entirely arbitrary where others draw their lines. Guy got icked and noped out at a spot that was too ick for him to persist with, it happens.
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You're absolutely correct. And it wouldn't be that much of a problem if it wasn't for Selebus' dumb great ideas regarding game design. I love the writing, but man, if it wasn't for the community support I just wouldn't have the will to power-through this game, like, I just finished replaying and there were about 10 different times where I for sure would have simply closed the game and gave up. Specifically to the wiki, I'm not translating hexadecimal, ciphers and japanese for every event every time (not mentioning how it makes it easier to find an event).

That said, it's funny cause, for me, my sole line in the sand that I can see would be if his story stopped making sense. Like what we all talked about regarding Nodokathon, but times 10 and repeated a couple of times. I don't think I'd mind whatever tag he chose to bring up as long as it made sense. And wizards make a lot of sense to the overall arc of the story, in fact it's something that has been confirmed for years (I'd assume regarding both Sekai and Maya - and then with HOPE's Uta's message) - but, again, I do respect their boundaries regarding fiction.
 
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The problem of LiL is not the loli content itself. The problem of LiL is Selebus, who continiously attempts to normalize it to reader, and who makes questionable rants like "You are literally fucking schoolgirls, why do you think fucking loli would make it worse". And on the top of that, he already tried to use loli content to make this game banned on f95; so from some perspective Sel is a crying bitch who makes his game lolicon-focused just to show that it really violates rule 7 here.

I think, people can find this a bit exhausting. I like what Sel did with Tsukasa though
 
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I think the recent Tsukasa stuff was the straw that broke the camel's back for most who have jumped ship.

Sel may have actually had a recent comment about this, in Kaori's recent Tree Village event:
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There's also how I'm sure people missed the whole Sensei's a pedo in denial stuff, throughout the game, and now it's getting more and more blatant. Even though, it has been at least implied since Maya's 'A Place That Can Only Exist in Our Minds' Chapter 2 Event. Especially if you find the secret image:
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(Albeit, the rework has a wizard Maya show up in the 1st Happy Event, and has Sensei freaking out about "petting the cat", mentioning her purity, and showing her true love, etc)

And again implied by Sensei having younger pics of Maya, by the end of Chapter 2, which was seemingly mentioned again by New Maya recently:
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I guess, watching Sekai suck off and jerk off a wizard/warlock Sensei back in Chapter 3 wasn't enough of a deal breaker.

Although, it might be less so the Wizard stuff, and more so how it is seemingly required, to choose to go after a wizard, to get an all green path (not have crossed out events). The lack of a scapegoat may be the problem.
 
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DeSkel15 said:
There's also how I'm sure people missed the whole Sensei's a pedo in denial stuff, throughout the game, and now it's getting more and more blatant. Even though, it has been at least implied since Maya's 'A Place That Can Only Exist in Our Minds' Chapter 2 Event. Especially if you find the secret image:
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(Albeit, the rework has a wizard Maya show up in the 1st Happy Event, and has Sensei freaking out about "petting the cat", mentioning her purity, and showing her true love, etc)

And again implied by Sensei having younger pics of Maya, by the end of Chapter 2, which was seemingly mentioned again by New Maya recently:
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I guess, watching Sekai suck off and jerk off a wizard/warlock Sensei back in Chapter 3 wasn't enough of a deal breaker.
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That's what I meant, there were already several references and images of this content in the game a long time ago, so I was confused when they said that this was the reason, but as Bingoogus said, everyone has their limits so I'm not going to complain to anyone He abandoned the game for that reason, but like I said I don't think I'll ever understand why he only abandoned the game now and not before, when there was the first reference to it in the game.

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The difference is likely between knowing it's happening and being shown it's happening and all signs point to the latter. As Bingoogus said that might have been the ick that broke the camel's back.
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But it had already been shown in chapter 3 with Sekai and Akira mage
 
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DeSkel15 said:
I guess, watching Sekai suck off and jerk off a wizard/warlock Sensei back in Chapter 3 wasn't enough of a deal breaker.
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Beyond the sheer insanity of the game's god interference/reset moments, this is definitely the area I'm hella creeped by. I struggled to push past and see the plot cause oof, yeah.

I definitely have some worries about upcoming plot points given some of the dialogue that's cropped up at various moments with the wizards, especially that last Tsukasa event.
 
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So far i've tolerated wizard content because it's been portrayed as awful and traumatizing to the victims. I might not continue if it starts being shown salaciously, or more clearly suggests the wizard is responsible for it. I'm actually worried the story could go that direction.
 
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DeSkel15 said:
Although, it might be less so the Wizard stuff, and more so how it is seemingly required, to choose to go after a wizard, to get an all green path (not have crossed out events). The lack of a scapegoat may be the problem.
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I mean if I was a game dev, I'd be hella tempted to fuck with completionists. Like how in Braid / The Witness most of the game can be completed very quickly but completionists have to add a literal hour long delay because fuck them.
 
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