Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

[PhiloPhilo]

The way I have been looking at her, is her primary objective is more trying to understand the world they are in and how it works. Or her trying to gain an insight into the motivations of whatever she thinks is controlling or influencing the world. (I don't think she knows about the users yet but she seems to be suspicious of the nature of the world.). She is obviously still interested in understanding the characters and their motivations, but I think that might be secondary to her trying to gain an insight into the world they are in.

Or you could word it as: The reason she is writing her books is not to understand the Characters, but is instead to understand the Author/s.

Here is a copy paste out of my v33 notes on her which might be interesting, Idk if they will make sense unless you are a copy of me, But I cant really be bothered to re write them in a way that will so I guess be warned of that. And they don't necessarily reflect my current reading of her character.

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I don't disagree, if anything I'd say she has a pension for understanding in general, but obviously the big questions like the universe are more important and enticing than the small things. Something is obviously going on with her, but I feel less qualified to guess where it's heading than most. Her latest run-in with Yasu at the church and everything else has me hopeful we get more of her piecing things together soon rather than just Nodoka shenanigans. I haven't taken many notes so reading yours was interesting, I'll probably have to start eventually..

 

[Moonflare]

The way I have been looking at her, is her primary objective is more trying to understand the world they are in and how it works. Or her trying to gain an insight into the motivations of whatever she thinks is controlling or influencing the world. (I don't think she knows about the users yet but she seems to be suspicious of the nature of the world.). She is obviously still interested in understanding the characters and their motivations, but I think that might be secondary to her trying to gain an insight into the world they are in.

Or you could word it as: The reason she is writing her books is not to understand the Characters, but is instead to understand the Author/s.

Here is a copy paste out of my v33 notes on her which might be interesting, Idk if they will make sense unless you are a copy of me, But I cant really be bothered to re write them in a way that will so I guess be warned of that. And they don't necessarily reflect my current reading of her character.

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I agree with your notes. The thing about Nodoka is that, while she can be compared to Tsubasa (I think Akira did), she can also be compared to Yasu. What we conveniently forget though is that, although Yasu hears/sees a lot more than Nodoka, Nodoka does not have a religion to fall back on.

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Another thing that seems highly relevant to this is her mother. Especially because her mother might have had the same role as her, but was able to do it. Again, we lack crucial info on that. But, basically, her frustration might be even bigger regarding that, since that same supernatural search might have already been achieved (so she knows it's possible and therefore will stop at nothing to reach it too), or that that supernatural search result may have put her mother in a disabled condition, thus condemning her to take care of her (all of this has been alluded to a couple of times, in the sense that the events of LiL could be just a repeat of what happened at the house by the lake/upside down house).

There are many layers to Nodoka yet to be revealed.

 

[Comiies]

Tsuneyo is an interesting character.
Is she chinese? Is she black?
Is she black because her father is WIRES?
Does she like noodles because they resemble cables?
Does she lack feelings because she's a construct and her father hasn't learned to give her emotions yet?
Every person is wired up with blood vessels. WHAT ARE WE REALLY EATING ?

IIrc wasnt she from like egypt?I think she talked about where she was from since she is adopted and all but i may be wrong

 

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[JelF547]

Okay, a few words about Tsuneyo relationships with egypt (somebody asked me to share this therory here).

Firt of all, all we know is that her mother was from Egypt. Anything other is a pure speculation.

However, there are huge implications that her father is literally god, and it is not imposible to their entire family to be a part of egyptian panteon. This reminded me of myth about Isis and Osiris, which is very close (some would say it was appropriated) to the myth of Jesus's ressurection. Considering significant amout of bible references, she might be the one who would ressurect a new born god (i.e. Sensei) or return Maya prime back, or something like that

Once again, pure speculations

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Okay, a few words about Tsuneyo relationships with egypt (somebody asked me to share this therory here).

Firt of all, all we know is that her mother was from Egypt. Anything other is a pure speculation.

However, there are huge implications that her father is literally god, and it is not imposible to their entire family to be a part of egyptian panteon. This reminded me of myth about Isis and Osiris, which is very close (some would say it was appropriated) to the myth of Jesus's ressurection. Considering significant amout of bible references, she might be the one who would ressurect a new born god (i.e. Sensei) or return Maya prime back, or something like that

Once again, pure speculations

Birds are often depicted in ancient egypt as symbols of divine power and protection, Noodles specifically is a Male house sparrow, which are native to Egypt.

Osiris was a King that ruled the world until his evil brother Seth killed him. His wife Isis then looked for pieces of Osiris all around the world to ressurect him, she was able to find all but one, which had been lost forever. Undeterred by this she asked Anubis the jackal god of the afterlife to help her and together they temporarily brought back Osiris, who during this short time impregnated Isis. Their child ended up being Horus, the Bird God of the Sun who would free the world from Seth.

I have many times shared my belief that the gods (there is no god in this game) Users are trying to manipulate Akira into getting a girl pregnant because their child would be all-powerful and shit, Yasu is the one who alludes to this the most. They go to such lenghts to make this happen that they implant fake feelings of love and lust on girls so that they get pregnant.

If you were to interpret the egyptian lore and paste it on LiL, WIRES would end up being Geb the Creator God of the Earth, Akira would be Osiris the God of Death, Tsuneyo would be Isis the goddess of the moon, and Horus would be the Bird god of the Sun. There's a lot of birds in Horus's family tree, whilst the Evil God Seth is more related to insects.
Theres also a lot of incest going on...

Tsuneyo looking for pieces of Akira to bring him back and having this super child does fall in line, specially when we know she's supposed to be his wife at some point.

This of course still doesn't explain Tsuneyo's chinese affiliation but there's a lot of stuff that makes sense.

 

[somepersonoutofnowhere]

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I assume Sekai's jealously is before the sleepover but I can be wrong, I only assume since during the day Ami is playing cards against humanity with Niki which might've lead to them taking a break on the couch which gives us the jealousy preview but I'm not sure if previews are in chronological order but someone (I unfortunately forgot who) said they are, so I'm basing it also off that.

Now to the point, I've got a bad feeling that the sleepover might become more than a sleepover with Jealousy Sekai being there alongside Pareidolia that hates the Nakayamas IIRC.

Or it could hopefully take the other chance of being a wholesome sleepover instead of a bad one.

 

[Dc345]

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[somepersonoutofnowhere]

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Return of the Rika

 

[crustlord12]

Sel has been monitoring the forum and even he forgot Rika, only remembered because Dc345

 

[DeSkel15]

Birds are often depicted in ancient egypt as symbols of divine power and protection, Noodles specifically is a Male house sparrow, which are native to Egypt.

Osiris was a King that ruled the world until his evil brother Seth killed him. His wife Isis then looked for pieces of Osiris all around the world to ressurect him, she was able to find all but one, which had been lost forever. Undeterred by this she asked Anubis the jackal god of the afterlife to help her and together they temporarily brought back Osiris, who during this short time impregnated Isis. Their child ended up being Horus, the Bird God of the Sun who would free the world from Seth.

I have many times shared my belief that the gods (there is no god in this game) Users are trying to manipulate Akira into getting a girl pregnant because their child would be all-powerful and shit, Yasu is the one who alludes to this the most. They go to such lenghts to make this happen that they implant fake feelings of love and lust on girls so that they get pregnant.

If you were to interpret the egyptian lore and paste it on LiL, WIRES would end up being Geb the Creator God of the Earth, Akira would be Osiris the God of Death, Tsuneyo would be Isis the goddess of the moon, and Horus would be the Bird god of the Sun. There's a lot of birds in Horus's family tree, whilst the Evil God Seth is more related to insects.
Theres also a lot of incest going on...

Tsuneyo looking for pieces of Akira to bring him back and having this super child does fall in line, specially when we know she's supposed to be his wife at some point.

This of course still doesn't explain Tsuneyo's chinese affiliation but there's a lot of stuff that makes sense.

This definitely reminded me of Paper City Tsuneyo:

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Her describing Sensei as "almost finished" has always seemed intriguing, and it seems to fit your Osiris analogy.

Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but Tsuneyo seems far more observant and intelligent than she usually let's on.

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[LoveRedHairedGirl]

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Damn, that made me think, is Rika okay with Rin being sexually active?

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

This definitely reminded me of Paper City Tsuneyo:

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Her describing Sensei as "almost finished" has always seemed intriguing, and it seems to fit your Osiris analogy.

Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but Tsuneyo seems far more observant and intelligent than she usually let's on.

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Don't forget that Akira's name literally means Sunlight/bright
In Japanese there are many alternative ways to write the name Akira in kanji, the most popular way to do it is with the kanji 明 which is the combination of the two different characters 日 = sun and 月 = moon, which means "the light coming from the sun" or "sunlight and moonlight"

 

[Dc345]

Damn, that made me think, is Rika okay with Rin being sexually active?

I would assume so since she congratulated Otoha on fingering Rin. Now whether or not she is ok with Rin banging Sensei is left up for discussion.

 

[DeSkel15]

Damn, that made me think, is Rika okay with Rin being sexually active?

Yup:

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But like Dc345 pointed out, I'm not sure if she'd be fine with Rin being sexually active with a dude. Let alone Sensei.

Rika seems to prefer her daughter:

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And doesn't want some impregnation spree going on.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

Damn, that made me think, is Rika okay with Rin being sexually active?

Is any parent when their offspring are in their teens. They often just recognise that they have to accept it and hope they know enough to be careful

 

[jamyong]

I just want to point out that Nodoka’s BS is bad enough….

… that what she did to Io at the end of the latest dorm war didn’t even make your list.

I mean, she’s a fascinating character — and a funny self-parody by Selebus, I think.

But girl needs to develop even the tiniest sense of empathy. Or learn to fake one, like a good psychopath.

god yeah the Io thing was brutal. I couldn't believe what I was reading. as a victim of child abuse I feel like my reaction would have been violent if that happened to me lmao

of course that's pretty heavily outdone by Akira's subsequent breaking of Io at the bathhouse. kinda makes what Nodoka did seem tame in comparison

 

[Moonflare]

Rika - "So, how good was he at eating pussy?"

Akira answers: "better than Otoha at the very least".

I mean, it's not even a question on experience alone. And every chance to wreck Otoha is a chance one must take.

He could also answer: "just ask your daughter" to fuck with Rika, that'd be funny lol

Edit: he could also also answer "good enough that Wakana felt it even though I didn't even touch her" - cause wreck Osako as well

 

[Comiies]

Akira answers: "better than Otoha at the very least".

I mean, it's not even a question on experience alone. And every chance to wreck Otoha is a chance one must take.

He could also answer: "just ask your daughter" to fuck with Rika, that'd be funny lol

Edit: he could also also answer "good enough that Wakana felt it even though I didn't even touch her" - cause wreck Osako as well

Akira is supsiciously good at sex tbh.I suppose i can just say "Haha hentai protag is good at sex out of no where" but i wanna believe that his sexual prowess comes from Sekais teachings.

 

[PhiloPhilo]

Is any parent when their offspring are in their teens.

In the game? I mean, yeah, probably even without Rika. Maki probably wouldn't care as long as the dude isn't 30
Mine didn't