Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

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aramaug

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daagagsdgd said:
I’m pretty sure that Ai Ariyoshi is the one with lavender girl aka DOUBT. I remember seeing somewhere with a line stated with “Ai of this color” in lavender purple. Though I can’t recall where since it’s too ephemeral and I didn’t save the screen. Somehow that memory just etched in my brain so I’m 100 percent sure Ai is the one when I saw the list.

So far I haven’t seen any connection directly between Futuba and DOUBT. And I think her relationship with Nodoka is simply a parallel with relationship between Ai and Yuko, which again is an inherited cycle. The Upside Down House in her novel is probably due to influence of Nodoka who shares a lot of connection with it.

By the way Pareidolia seems to be the one who toyed Futaba in Clam’s Tongue. The Sound and visual effect bears many similarities with Molly in Second Holloween. And in the end of A Tree Falls In The Forest, the message appeared is signed by The Concerned, aka Pareidolia, which leads to ponder on the reason and if Pareidolia has any further scheme on Futuba.

P.S. I actually believe Yuko is the diminutive of “Kyoto” rather than “Ariyoshi”? Though I’m not against the thory that Ai wanted a name resemble to the one she loved, that is 有吉愛->有子(?) , despite that Aiko 愛子 seems more plausible.
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Yuko has lavender hair and Kyoko is obsessed with her.
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DOUBT has (literal) lavender hair and Kyoko is obsessed with her.
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Ai and Yuko are mentioned together and so almost certainly aren't the same person.
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I think this is the only time that Ai is ever referenced in the game other than in the special thanks image. I couldn't turn up anything else with a search, so I'm not sure where you're remembering the color reference from. One of the five girls in the upside down house has pink hair, by process of elimination that's probably Ai.
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Futaba is connected to Yuko/DOUBT by all of the lavender references and by Nodoka's interest in her. It's quite possible that Nodoka wrote Futaba's upside down house story, but then she still had a reason to swap it with Futaba's notebook.

I agree that Pareidolia is strangely interested in Futaba, I even wrote about it before. But all of those references are from Chapter 1 and there's been a lot less since then, so it's unclear if that's going anywhere.

To be honest, I'm not sure I follow what you're arguing, so let me know if this didn't address it.
 
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Jeraviel said:
I think Chika would have been willing to share Sensei with Yumi (and probably Niki)
The real issue is she thinks that

1. Chika believes he was cheating on her with Yumi, behind her back
2. Chika believes Sensei went to the beach just to spend time with Yumi
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Honestly the second probably hurt her more than the first.
I mean yeah your boyfriend "cheating" on you with who is basically your sister, fucking sucks. But then you find out, while he is depressed and shit, as low as he can get, that he would rather spend time and the night with her than with you?
That will deal a severe blow at your self-steem.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chika starts blaming herself for not being "good enough"

Also now Chika, whether she forgives them or not, CANNOT find out about what Nodoka did. With the new information Chika has, it goes from {Nodoka tricked them and blackmailed them, causing Yumi to go on a rampage next day} to {Nodoka caught them red-handed and Yumi beat her to try silence her into submission}
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Honestly bro the mention of Nodoka reminded me of what she did this update.Futaba knows and since futaba knows Rin will eventually learn.And through Rin everyone will know.So i wonder how long will it take for Chika to learn?
 
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Jeraviel said:
I think Chika would have been willing to share Sensei with Yumi (and probably Niki)
The real issue is she thinks that

1. Chika believes he was cheating on her with Yumi, behind her back
2. Chika believes Sensei went to the beach just to spend time with Yumi
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Honestly the second probably hurt her more than the first.
I mean yeah your boyfriend "cheating" on you with who is basically your sister, fucking sucks. But then you find out, while he is depressed and shit, as low as he can get, that he would rather spend time and the night with her than with you?
That will deal a severe blow at your self-steem.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chika starts blaming herself for not being "good enough"

Also now Chika, whether she forgives them or not, CANNOT find out about what Nodoka did. With the new information Chika has, it goes from {Nodoka tricked them and blackmailed them, causing Yumi to go on a rampage next day} to {Nodoka caught them red-handed and Yumi beat her to try silence her into submission}
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I kind of agree with everything you're saying, but the fact that Yumi is Chika's sister, when she has no family left and raised Chinami by herself, with Yumi's help - beats everything else. There's a whole bunch of hormones and accumulated feelings from a thousand years of loops, but at the end of the day, Yumi is her sister. Nothing's going to wreck that, least of all some dude.

If Yumi had actually "cheated" on her with Akira, sure, maybe their sisterhood could have been broken, but it's all a big misunderstanding and most of all Chika is the one that understands Yumi better than any of us. She called out Yumi for her feelings towards Akira even before Yumi realised she had them. It's going to take a few or even just one conversation for Chika to piece together that Yumi did nothing wrong and it's all a big nothingburger.

I just hope that during that same conversation Yumi comes clear about the actual cheating that's going on, cause let me reiterate that, since I've been faily gleeful about Chika getting wrecked: I don't want Chika to suffer, what I want is for this charade to end.

Also, if Yumi told Chika about a sexual assault and Chika misunderstood that, then I'd be very very disappointed in her. That's no joking matter, least of all from Yumi.
 
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barglenarglezous said:
I love that you responded to the wrong message, here. I get bad brain days, too.

*takes box of pizza rolls out of freezer*
*arranges them in microwave*
*does not push any buttons*
*walks away for two minutes*
*comes back and takes them out of freezer*
*stares at them wondering why they still have frost on them*

(this has happened more than once)
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The food even teleports, since you're putting them into the microwave and taking them out of the freezer later.
 
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k1n5l4y3r said:
The food even teleports, since you're putting them into the microwave and taking them out of the freezer later.
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No he forgot about the food already in the microwave and took out a second box from the freezer, then proceeded to forget about heating the second box of pizza rolls as well. That's how old he is.
 
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Moonflare said:
I kind of agree with everything you're saying, but the fact that Yumi is Chika's sister, when she has no family left and raised Chinami by herself, with Yumi's help - beats everything else. There's a whole bunch of hormones and accumulated feelings from a thousand years of loops, but at the end of the day, Yumi is her sister. Nothing's going to wreck that, least of all some dude.

If Yumi had actually "cheated" on her with Akira, sure, maybe their sisterhood could have been broken, but it's all a big misunderstanding and most of all Chika is the one that understands Yumi better than any of us. She called out Yumi for her feelings towards Akira even before Yumi realised she had them. It's going to take a few or even just one conversation for Chika to piece together that Yumi did nothing wrong and it's all a big nothingburger.

I just hope that during that same conversation Yumi comes clear about the actual cheating that's going on, cause let me reiterate that, since I've been faily gleeful about Chika getting wrecked: I don't want Chika to suffer, what I want is for this charade to end.

Also, if Yumi told Chika about a sexual assault and Chika misunderstood that, then I'd be very very disappointed in her. That's no joking matter, least of all from Yumi.
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I'm still wondering how Yumi will be able to convince her if her brain keeps looping back to before Yumi mentions any of the time loop shenanigans...
 
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Bingoogus said:
I'm still wondering how Yumi will be able to convince her if her brain keeps looping back to before Yumi mentions any of the time loop shenanigans...
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This probably won't matter because logic doesn't apply to video game characters, but Yumi doesn't have to say anything about the resets at all. She could just say that she was dragged to some weird sleepover/hangout thing without being told why, ended up leaving, he went looking for her and they got caught in the rain (literally all of this is true.) And she could go further by making up the reason they had the sleepover in the first place (such as Ayane trying to get Akira back into social life) and what they talked about. Especially if she notices Chika repeating herself and connects the dots.
Will Selebus take this into account?......... No.
 
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barglenarglezous said:
I love that you responded to the wrong message, here. I get bad brain days, too.

*takes box of pizza rolls out of freezer*
*arranges them in microwave*
*does not push any buttons*
*walks away for two minutes*
*comes back and takes them out of freezer*
*stares at them wondering why they still have frost on them*

(this has happened more than once)
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Sometimes i forget why i went into the kitchen in the first place. And it's like 10m or 3 sec away from my pc.
 
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Moonflare said:
I kind of agree with everything you're saying, but the fact that Yumi is Chika's sister, when she has no family left and raised Chinami by herself, with Yumi's help - beats everything else. There's a whole bunch of hormones and accumulated feelings from a thousand years of loops, but at the end of the day, Yumi is her sister. Nothing's going to wreck that, least of all some dude.

If Yumi had actually "cheated" on her with Akira, sure, maybe their sisterhood could have been broken, but it's all a big misunderstanding and most of all Chika is the one that understands Yumi better than any of us. She called out Yumi for her feelings towards Akira even before Yumi realised she had them. It's going to take a few or even just one conversation for Chika to piece together that Yumi did nothing wrong and it's all a big nothingburger.

I just hope that during that same conversation Yumi comes clear about the actual cheating that's going on, cause let me reiterate that, since I've been faily gleeful about Chika getting wrecked: I don't want Chika to suffer, what I want is for this charade to end.

Also, if Yumi told Chika about a sexual assault and Chika misunderstood that, then I'd be very very disappointed in her. That's no joking matter, least of all from Yumi.
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Chika's more or less called Yumi a liar when it came to the creepy detentions in the past:
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I don't really see any conversation about Sensei being in the wrong, going well, for Yumi, when it comes to Chika. Even Ami and Ayane seem to find Chika's feelings for Sensei concerning.

PhiloPhilo said:
This probably won't matter because logic doesn't apply to video game characters, but Yumi doesn't have to say anything about the resets at all. She could just say that she was dragged to some weird sleepover/hangout thing without being told why, ended up leaving, he went looking for her and they got caught in the rain (literally all of this is true.) And she could go further by making up the reason they had the sleepover in the first place (such as Ayane trying to get Akira back into social life) and what they talked about. Especially if she notices Chika repeating herself and connects the dots.
Will Selebus take this into account?......... No.
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Keep in mind that Chika was likely staying in a room close by, the whole time. Yumi doesn't really have an excuse for not saying anything to Chika about the secret slumber party with Chika's boyfriend without Chika. Let alone an excuse for the hint that Yumi and Sensei had fooled around prior, based off their conversation that Chika overheard.

Overall: Unless Yumi turns into a master bullshitter, she's probably in trouble, lmao.

I do think Chika wants it all to be a delusion, though, so at least that might help Yumi's case.
 
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