Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

[PhiloPhilo]

What are your thoughts on this Thomas thing?


Also I had another 'has it been discussed' question to the lore masters on here about the MM note on Akira's board. Is the general thought that it's another Maya/reset shenanigans? The character Miu Miyahara from NiB and the event Rain King has a poem that basically ends with the note on Akira's board. Too much of a leap? lol

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This actually has been discussed at least once before, but the time I was present for, I don't believe anyone brought up this connection (could be wrong.) I believe most of the discourse revolved around whether or not and how Maya could have been the one to write the note, and who else it could have been if it wasn't her, but nothing concrete. You should be able to find that discussion if you search for it, if you want to read it. Someone else will have to weigh in on if the NiB connection is likely though

 

[JelF547]

To be fair, Chinami is an effective weapon when used like that... she is irresistibly cute.

Yes. Chika is not stupid, Chika is just a fucking psycho

 

[Moonflare]

I just remembered that the first time you can kiss Chika is when she has to rush home cause Chinami is having an episode or the like (and she glitches out, which I think is the only time Chika has been supernatural).

This is really early in the game - so yeah, Chinami is probably dying (more likely to be what he's been planning since year one, at least more than him having Akira actively interested in kids, which came much later).

Edit: minor note, on my first playthrough I thought the whole thing was going to be about her having to work as a prostitute or something (it's a plot done many times to gyaru characters). I was surprised when it was about Chinami.

 

[JelF547]

Selebus should really stop killing Chinami in the middle of each chapter. Novellety was lost years ago

 

[Bingoogus]

Selebus should really stop killing Chinami in the middle of each chapter. Novellety was lost years ago

Yep, it was lost cause we know it isn't permanent, even if she's weighed down by the force of a billion deaths throughout the full history of the resetting universe, she still always returns... i don't really see how her dying can have narrative weight. Like, yeah, seeing Chika and Yumi fucked up will suck, but the whole time we're reading/seeing that we're all going to be thinking 'but she'll come back so this is just temporary' and that sucks most of the impact out in the same way it did when Maya prime died cause he'd already half done it before and we also know it can't last forever, we know she's out there somewhere, just have to wait until she's restored.

 

[JelF547]

Maya prime died cause he'd already half done it before and we also know it can't last forever, we know she's out there somewhere, just have to wait until she's restored.

Well, this one is more interesting because (Deskel will correct me if I am mwrong) we have to sacrifice something of equal value in order to return her; so her presence in TSS events is an actual promise of something horrible. We also don't known how much of abomination she will be when she will return; and I honestly expect that Sensei would regret bringing her back.

Also, her return would likely mean the end of a new Maya, which would also be the drama I wish to see. And Chinami will just return back with some memories possibly erased. Boring

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Shame on you guys, where is your trust in this story's epic writing?

 

[Bingoogus]

Well, this one is more interesting because (Deskel will correct me if I am mwrong) we have to sacrifice something of equal value in order to return her; so her presence in TSS events is an actual promise of something horrible. We also don't known how much of abomination she will be when she will return; and I honestly expect that Sensei would regret bringing her back.

Also, her return would likely mean the end of a new Maya, which would also be the drama I wish to see. And Chinami will just return back with some memories possibly erased. Boring

Yeah, they're not the same in terms of how they'll play out, i just meant in how the weight such things would usually have in a story are completely undermined in this one, almost all of us were very affected by the pop of Maya prime, but we'd have been completely crushed if we believed that was her full and complete death, no backsies.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Chika's more or less called Yumi a liar when it came to the creepy detentions in the past:

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Let me inhale the copium, guys.

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[shmurfer]

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Foot note: Sel immediately started trolling after he posted this

Between the two previews that Chinami is in I don't think she's (naturally) dying or getting fucked (this update). Unless Selebus has just gotten more shit at choreography after stomachache there isn't enough event space left for either of those two options to be done in a meaningful way while having these poses in it. This is a sick girl sitting up in bed to talk to a friend, not someone on their deathbed. Unless it feeds into the next update where she gets worse during main events the time isn't here.

I think Chinami's definitely sick in a struggling to get out of bed way. Whether it's by chance, she gets in the way of a Sensei Yumi confrontation or personally what I've gleamed from all of the released previews

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[Boomboxy]

Let me inhale the copium, guys.

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[Moonflare]

Shame on you guys, where is your trust in this story's epic writing?

I am currently calm towards Chinami, callous towards Chika and concerned caring towards Yumi. Bring me more wholesome moments, Selebus. We know you're here.

 

[Comiies]

As much as i dont like the depression versions of characters being used too often cause it loses its value,chinami dying will be very important(And imo highly probable) for a lot of reasons.

1)More suffering for the already miserable Chika
2)Tsubaki will have the perfect reason to satisfy her manipulative tendencies and officially adopt Chika(Because as that fascist said "Persuasion is best done when someone is mentally vurnerable")
3)Akira will be in the center of this change since his infidelity kinda got revelealed
4)I like the number 4

 

[shmurfer]

3)Akira will be in the center of this change since his infidelity kinda got revelealed

It hasn't yet though.

She's bothering to go through Yumi's phone so she's looking for proof. Unless Yumi has a bunch of messages on her phone saying she wants Sensei's dig bick which she never sent to Sensei (and most likely hasn't got a history of messages of them sorting out logistics for this affair), that'd still only incriminate her not Sensei. She hasn't had a chance to take photos of both of them fucking unless we start going supernatural either with Akira blacking out, or her having photos of previous lives that survived resets on their phone.

She's pretty primed to go back to the status quo, maybe with a lower opinion of Yumi which might go somewhere. Maybe they just blow everything up instead (Might as well do the crime if you've done the time)

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Maybe they just blow everything up instead

Let them blow Akira's head.

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her having photos of previous lives that survived resets on their phone.

Btw, photos can survive a reset, as we can see. A picture of the sky during one of the last resets survived.
So I'm wondering, if someone from the RAS films what happens during a reset, will other people understand the video or not?

 

[Comiies]

It hasn't yet though.

She's bothering to go through Yumi's phone so she's looking for proof. Unless Yumi has a bunch of messages on her phone saying she wants Sensei's dig bick which she never sent to Sensei (and most likely hasn't got a history of messages of them sorting out logistics for this affair), that'd still only incriminate her not Sensei. She hasn't had a chance to take photos of both of them fucking unless we start going supernatural either with Akira blacking out, or her having photos of previous lives that survived resets on their phone.

She's pretty primed to go back to the status quo, maybe with a lower opinion of Yumi which might go somewhere. Maybe they just blow everything up instead (Might as well do the crime if you've done the time)

Hence the kinda

 

[DeSkel15]

Well, this one is more interesting because (Deskel will correct me if I am mwrong) we have to sacrifice something of equal value in order to return her; so her presence in TSS events is an actual promise of something horrible. We also don't known how much of abomination she will be when she will return; and I honestly expect that Sensei would regret bringing her back.

Also, her return would likely mean the end of a new Maya, which would also be the drama I wish to see. And Chinami will just return back with some memories possibly erased. Boring

It's not clear, but Kaori's explanation of wishes, stories, faceless elves, and gold stars, may be a hint at how to bring Maya Prime back. Ami seemed to want to use whatever wishes or gold stars that she's got (if any) to bring the moon back:

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Presumably, her mother is this moon (could be Maya, but I don't think Ami wants Maya Prime back), however SeKaori seemed to say that changing the past would lead to notable consequences of equal or greater value:

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So, if Maya Prime does come back, in a similar way, it will likely have consequences of relative value, as well.

However, Pareidolia seemed to imply it'd bring Maya Prime back if Sensei raped Karin in Karin's 'Paranoid' Chapter 4 Event, and suggested that something else could maybe give Sensei a miracle and bring her back in Chapter 4's 'The Collector' Main Event, then Pareidolia suggested that following It is the only way to get his "girl" back, but was purposely vague about which "girl" in Chapter 4's 'On the Count of Three' Main Event.

(Of course, Pareidolia might just be talking out of it's "not even real" ass)

Overall: There is a possibility of Maya Prime's return, but it's not all that clear on what the cost might be, or how it'd work exactly.

Let me inhale the copium, guys.

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[Comiies]

It's not clear, but Kaori's explanation of wishes, stories, faceless elves, and gold stars, may be a hint at how to bring Maya Prime back. Ami seemed to want to use whatever wishes or gold stars that she's got (if any) to bring the moon back:

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Presumably, her mother is this moon (could be Maya, but I don't think Ami wants Maya Prime back), however SeKaori seemed to say that changing the past would lead to notable consequences of equal or greater value:

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So, if Maya Prime does come back, in a similar way, it will likely have consequences of relative value, as well.

However, Pareidolia seemed to imply it'd bring Maya Prime back if Sensei raped Karin in Karin's 'Paranoid' Chapter 4 Event, and suggested that something else could maybe give Sensei a miracle and bring her back in Chapter 4's 'The Collector' Main Event, then Pareidolia suggested that following It is the only way to get his "girl" back, but was purposely vague about which "girl" in Chapter 4's 'On the Count of Three' Main Event.

(Of course, Pareidolia might just be talking out of it's "not even real" ass)

Overall: There is a possibility of Maya Prime's return, but it's not all that clear on what the cost might be, or how it'd work exactly.

Spoiler: No Cope For You

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Tbh i consider Chikas mentality just a very well developed coping mechanism.I mean we see that she carries the weight well but that doesnt mean it isnt heavy.Her parents are dead,she needs to take care of her sick little sister that doesnt have any chance to live.She needs to both work and go to school.She lives in the most dangerous area in the city.It is impressive that she hasnt buckled under the pressure *yet* but i think her finding out about Akiras infidelity will be the straw that breaks the camels back.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

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When there is no cope for me:

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[PhiloPhilo]

When there is no cope for me:

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Me watching Makoto jump copium posters lose all hope

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