Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

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anothersilo

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saekoa said:
Can someone clarify what kind of "cheating" is in this game? Is the tag there because the MC sleeps with multiple girls, which is more harem than cheating. Or is it because some of the girls have/had boyfriends?
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Two of the women have husbands (one is in an open relationship with him, the other is not). Neither of the husbands are in town, and neither have been seen yet and will plausibly never been seen. You can choose whether you want to have sex with both of these women.

On the other side, MC leads a couple of his girls to believe they are the only ones he is sleeping with, so that can be considered cheating as well.

Finally, some of the LIs get sexual with other girls not involving the MC. This could also be considered cheating.
 
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matt_riochka said:
on that topic, I'd be interested in hearing some of the events you guys have re-read and got a different perspective on and/or conclusion on since I'm currently replaying everything from the start

for me: a lot of the early Tsuneyo events had hints and info for Wires that I somehow just forgot about or my brain just didn't pick up on the first time, probably thinking HOPE was the only god?
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I don't think I ever gain a very different view of a certain event upon replaying, though there are particular moments that "don't age well" after recent updates.
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But I'll say, every time I replay an old Ami event, I am reminded again that this little devil spawn is actually a capable sweet person, and maybe she can be like that more often had she gotten the therapies she needed early.
 
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matt_riochka said:
I'm probably the only one triggered by this, but I wish Sel would put the newer looks for the girls as profile outfits
Something about going in the menu and seeing chapter 1 or 2 outfits when I know there could be a longer haired Miku one instead just doesn't sit right with me
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Sel said he'd update all the profile models "eventually." But more than likely they will be updated in the transition from Chapter 4 to 5 when all of the new sandbox stuff is added in.
 
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Dc345 said:
Sel said he'd update all the profile models "eventually." But more than likely they will be updated in the transition from Chapter 4 to 5 when all of the new sandbox stuff is added in.
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Pff, wouldn't surprised me if he made it stretch goal content tbh, he's already holding back shit he doesn't want to do just to try and squeeze more money out of his supporters, why not add this to it too...
 
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Another non-sequitur, but I've noticed the earlier Events in the game are absolutely peppered with references to how put-together and competent Akira was as a teacher prior to his reset (rebirth? reincarnation?). Have we ever seen any flashbacks to what exactly he was doing that so-impressed the more studious girls, like Makoto and Futaba? Very curious as to who exactly that 'version' of Akira was and how he ended up so different from the current one.
 
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Limeskeleton said:
Another non-sequitur, but I've noticed the earlier Events in the game are absolutely peppered with references to how put-together and competent Akira was as a teacher prior to his reset (rebirth? reincarnation?). Have we ever seen any flashbacks to what exactly he was doing that so-impressed the more studious girls, like Makoto and Futaba? Very curious as to who exactly that 'version' of Akira was and how he ended up so different from the current one.
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I agree which is why I'm not completely sold on this iteration of Sensei actually being Akira.
 
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Limeskeleton said:
Another non-sequitur, but I've noticed the earlier Events in the game are absolutely peppered with references to how put-together and competent Akira was as a teacher prior to his reset (rebirth? reincarnation?). Have we ever seen any flashbacks to what exactly he was doing that so-impressed the more studious girls, like Makoto and Futaba? Very curious as to who exactly that 'version' of Akira was and how he ended up so different from the current one.
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I think there are several different things that got mixed together here.

1. The "competent" part is from Tsubasa's research about his past (The Lucky Few), and it is about his grades at school as a student, not his performance as a teacher. As I recall the only positive comment about his teaching is from Makoto or Futaba and they are...extremely biased.

2. According to Wakana, along with other unnamed school staffs, pre-reset Sensei sucked (in what way is still not disclosed). This is mentioned a little bit here a little bit there all over Ch1 and it's hard to pull all the references out.

Edit: since Wakana was only introduced in Ch2, there is a possibility that the said notoriety came with his operations with the girls, and not his pre-reset teaching methods. And I actually can't find anything said about his pre-reset teaching in Ch1! Might have to retract what I said here lol.

Edit2: nvm I really can't find anything that specifically states how good or bad Sensei as a teacher was pre-reset. Proof not found :cry:

3. Regardless what the school staffs think, his competence in literature is still in there somewhere. Perhaps the combination of being mysterious, apparently literate, and by default hot is enough to passively nail these girls' weak point in personalities and have them surrender their affections to him. I don't see much need to really dive into exactly why girls fell for pre-reset Sensei, especially when the said girls are Makoto and Futaba.

4. The core reason why "he ended up so different from the current one" is because when he got reincarnated, he held no memories and was under the impression that "this is a game with cute girls and I can do literally anything I want in this world made for me". If one's memories got wiped completely and was told some very unusual guidelines, the person will act vastly different. Treat it almost like a protagonist from two separate saves of the same game, but one goes for the best route and the other intentionally makes all the wrong choices.
 
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fdsasdf_p said:
I think there are several different things that got mixed together here.

1. The "competent" part is from Tsubasa's research about his past (The Lucky Few), and it is about his grades at school as a student, not his performance as a teacher. As I recall the only positive comment about his teaching is from Makoto and she is...extremely biased.

2. According to Wakana, along with other unnamed school staffs, pre-reset Sensei sucked (in what way is still not disclosed). This is mentioned a little bit here a little bit there all over Ch1 and it's hard to pull all the references out.

3. Regardless what the school staffs think, his competence in literature is still in there somewhere. Perhaps the combination of being mysterious, apparently literate, and by default hot is enough to passively nail these girls' weak point in personalities and have them surrender their affections to him. I don't see much need to really dive into exactly why girls fell for pre-reset Sensei, especially when the said girls are Makoto and Futaba.

4. The core reason why "he ended up so different from the current one" is because when he got reincarnated, he held no memories and was under the impression that "this is a game with cute girls and I can do literally anything I want in this world made for me". If one's memories got wiped completely and was told some very unusual guidelines, the person will act vastly different. Treat it almost like a protagonist from two separate saves of the same game, but one goes for the best route and the other intentionally makes all the wrong choices.
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this is completely of the topic of the story mentioned above but what is your profile pic from
 
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Limeskeleton said:
Another non-sequitur, but I've noticed the earlier Events in the game are absolutely peppered with references to how put-together and competent Akira was as a teacher prior to his reset (rebirth? reincarnation?). Have we ever seen any flashbacks to what exactly he was doing that so-impressed the more studious girls, like Makoto and Futaba? Very curious as to who exactly that 'version' of Akira was and how he ended up so different from the current one.
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Technically, there has been a flashback scene of Akira teaching, just not teaching the class but doing private tutoring with Maya and Noriko. And he seemed pretty competent and invested then.
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I would imagine Sensei was like this in class prior to the resets as well.
Part of why he changed surely was simply his amnesia, forgetting why he liked teaching, who he did it for.
Hence I wouldn't say current Akira is a different Akira then he was back then per se. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the true end/purity routes would lead him to return to his former self, regaining his memories, but finally facing his traumas and dealing with them properly.
 
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DeanNorris said:
Technically, there has been a flashback scene of Akira teaching, just not teaching the class but doing private tutoring with Maya and Noriko. And he seemed pretty competent and invested then.
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I would imagine Sensei was like this in class prior to the resets as well.
Part of why he changed surely was simply his amnesia, forgetting why he liked teaching, who he did it for.
Hence I wouldn't say current Akira is a different Akira then he was back then per se. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the true end/purity routes would lead him to return to his former self, regaining his memories, but finally facing his traumas and dealing with them properly.
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Adding to this, our Akira is extremely well-read and at least somewhat smart. If you'll recall, Touka has quizzed him in a variety of topics and he knew everything by heart, Wakana also is pissed at him because he clearly knows his subject matter and yet chooses not to put it into practice (she evaluates this during their first meetings and discussions about poetry).

As for him being put-together, that's debatable. He was a teacher that did his job, but Makoto (that was looking for a father figure) and Futaba (that is a romance novel nerd) aren't exactly the most credible judges of him when they couldn't even figure out he was dating Maya under their noses. I think it was more that he was a young male teacher at a female highschool that genuinely seemed to enjoy teaching.

I see no dissonance between original Akira and ours that'd make me think they aren't the same person.
 
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Tinfoil hat theory -- Yumi's motive for bullying Futaba was really a variation of breast envy.

1) Of the original 10, Futaba was the only girl with larger breasts than Yumi
2) Futaba doesn't exactly hide how large they are
3) Yumi is ashamed of her breasts, makes an active effort to conceal them, and gets noticably uncomfortable when anybody -- including best friend Chika -- comments on them.

She's jealous of the fact that Futaba ISN'T ashamed of her breasts, and uses fatphobia as cover (an easy thing to do in Japan, which is an actively fatphobic country). The bullying is just an expression of her own insecurity.

Undermining argument: Touka exists.
 
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