Going around making absent-minded theories as to the inner workings of someone's mind and explaining behavior in a way convenient to you is pretty absurd. If you did that to people in real life they'd punch you in the face or otherwise ostracize you.
Damn man, this might have meant something if you hadn't spent your entire time in this thread doing this exact thing and would have faced the exact same IRL consequences for doing so. Calling people who skip resets porn-addled degenerates who can't appreciate good literature and all - the same people who've read the millions of un-sexy words in this game in the first place. Awesome.
Ever heard of the fundamental attribution error? It's a bias in which people observing others explain behavior by identifying them as "fundamental attributes," like someone kicking a vending machine to get a drink is just "an angry person" and that's why they're kicking the machine. Whereas if they are the one kicking the machine they instead explain it with momentary or circumstantial reasons, like, "I'm not an angry person today is just a bad day."
Someone with such banal motivations as merely
really wanting to get what they paid for out of a vending machine might be kicking the machine to jostle that drink loose, too. Each one of your arguments centers around people (on both sides here) being irrational and unreasonable, and this is a perfect example.
The position that authors are in is one where thousands of readers are constantly psycho-analyzing them and reading into statements and assigning them fundamental attributes to explain any given act of behavior. That is more depressing than anything. And so far from Selebus being a particular misanthrope in this regard, it's weird people online being weird but not getting the normal social rebukes since it's the internet.
Selly isn't a victim, man. He's demonstrably an irrational tyrant who both cares a lot about how much money he's making, and treats the very people and organizations responsible for his income like absolute shit. Name one other crowdfunded project of any kind with regular content updates that's had completely stagnant growth for 3 out of the 4.5 years it's been in development. That's not a coincidence.
I've been playing this game since a few months after it was first released. If you had been around for that long, you'd be familiar with the timeline. Everything was going swimmingly in the beginning, he actually was that idealized version of him you love so much. Then he got smacked in the wallet by Patreon, who just wanted to maintain a reasonable terms of service, which he perceived in the same terms as blood-libel upon his ancestors. He wasn't able to ameliorate this setback in any mature or reasonable way or separate his work from himself as a person, so even his professional demeanor changed as a result.
Homie has spent years burning bridges at record pace and now has to wrestle with the realities of living on an island.
I would be much more offended by an author lying to my face and talking circles around me to extract more income than one being frank and honest even if their honest opinion happens to be a hostile one. Seriously, why do people bemoan dishonesty so much but then react with such violent negativity to actual honesty when they come across it? Really says a lot.
This explains a lot about your behavior. You think you're "just being honest" and people are "just getting offended," when in reality, every one of your arguments has been in naked bad faith, an uncharitable interpretation, and/or you shadowboxing against imagined counter-arguments - none of which people have actually said or demonstrated - and you calling them complete idiots for it.
Almost nobody engages in idealized philosophical debate. It's too hard for people.
It's 2024, man. Much like the plot of Subahibi, the interplay and expression of ideas and philosophy in the real, modern world is fluid and dubious. Instead of discussing archaic philosophical works themselves, people have started to embody the distillations of their lessons, because they've consumed analyses and derivative works of them rather than the works themselves. The mores of didactic technological evolution have selected for works that
show in efficient ways rather than
tell in needlessly tedious, inefficient ones.
Maybe all of our brains are so porn-addled that none of us have the slightest appreciation for intellectual clarity, or maybe you in particular are just living in the past. One of life's great mysteries...
Their minds are too inflexible and focused on arguing against what instinctively feels wrong to them rather than searching for a deeper truth.
It's so fucking funny to hear you talk about the exact thing that you've been doing. Holy shit
The litany of Tarski is a rare and forgotten song. Ergo, I don't see any reason to demean Selebus's aggressive manner of argumentation. People are, indeed, fragile things, and it is the case that any ounce of hostility can shatter fragile hearts. But one concerned about and focusing all of their dialogue on not upsetting anyone will likely not be able to find themselves honestly speaking about anything. If some shattered hearts are what it takes for honesty I will take it. And those who can't handle it are indeed free to hide away out of side while bemoaning what a meanie someone was to them.
Assuming you're not him, you and Selly have an enormous amount in common. Both of you see yourselves as the one shining lighthouse of rational intellectualism in the dark, and it is merely spirited debate on its face that drives people away from you. When in reality, you don't ascribe a single sliver of viability to any single argument of your interlocutors when they deviate from your preconceived notions by the slightest degree. That is the real hostility in play here, and it doesn't "shatter fragile hearts," it paints you as an eminently conceited, pretentious, narcissistic, pedantic, shrill, grandiloquent child.
Given you've confused your being an asshole with people just being weak and stupid for your entire life, it's no wonder you treat everyone this way.
It's kind of insane how much absurd psychoanalysis people will unload on you simply because you want a game to be negative in experience as well as content sometimes. As if making people grind for SENSEI QUEST is the greatest affront known to man and makes you an irritable miser.
A perfect example of how it's an absolute requirement for you to deny any degree of reasonability in anyone else's ideas by blowing them completely out of proportion. These are the only
a priori conditions in which your extremely over-leveraged position of every single person other than yourself and a select few others being completely useless and stupid can flourish.
When in reality, it's just a waste of time. Simple as that.
People should be more appreciative of Selebus's openness. What comes off as ego is in fact a willingness to engage in open dialogue.
Is Selly's openness in the room with him now?
Yeah man, hell of a lot of openness involved when he's literally closed the Discord to so many people by banning them after the slightest pushback. I got banned from there for joking in this thread about how he must want to buy a Lambo.
(He told a different story of course, but the fact is that I hadn't been active for months either in this thread or in the Discord until my Lambo joke, and I got banned right after I made it.)
Most authors will think their readers are retarded but keep it to themselves and try to manipulate them with faux friendliness like every corporation out there. It SHOULD be a breath of fresh air to have an auteur openly argue about their ideas and put them to the test - they say only the best friends fight on a rooftop and smile about it after. It's really not Selebus's fault that 4 years and 10000 posts later people are still too close-minded to accept any video game experience that doesn't fellate them from start to finish.
There's an entire world of grey between customer service voice and having a persistent stance of zero good faith or charity of interpretation - and they're even on the same side of the graph in terms of helpfulness - but you are one of the last people I'd expect to understand that distinction.
But hey - as you say - it's
definitely ***ONLY*** the reset puzzles that people criticize Selly for.
(And my God if another teenager tries to talk about how epicly oppressive Elden "Most Popular Game of all time in which you can easily grind to overlevel enemies and summon help for any minorly challenging boss" Ring is I'll choke on my laughter and die. So kill me if you dare.)
See, this is the problem with pseudointellectuals. Not only are you a passive-aggressive coward responding to me in a reply to someone else, but you find one
single interpretation of something complex that contradicts its core existence or purpose in one
extremely specific way, and you use that to invalidate the entire thing, despite its complexity. This is the very essence of a bad faith strawman argument, and pure intellectual cowardice. Yeah man, every single person who plays Elden Ring cheeses summons, and grinding to overlevel enemies is both easy in and of itself and makes every enemy a walk in the park. Incredible. Go play the DLC and see how far you get at max level.
Also, Wukong is
far more popular than Elden Ring, partly because it is
much, much easier. That's not an important distinction, I just find it funny when you're factually wrong and not just epistemologically wrong.
But again,
I never said or implied it was "epicly oppressive,"
you said that. I said it rewards persistence and developing skills in the face of adversity, was an example of an RPG that actually rewarded the time you put into it, and brought it up offhandedly in response to your childish snark in the first place, PrincessDunningKruger.
