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JelF547

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I've been so invested in renpy games I always get bamboozled whenever I play proper visual novel games with much more advanced programming

That is to say...Sel can't program for shit
The magic of renpy is that you can make a good game with zero coding skills. Sel's code is a complete mess, yes
 

hario1225

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The magic of renpy is that you can make a good game with zero coding skills. Sel's code is a complete mess, yes
I actually have my own game but I abandoned it right before pandemic (cuz of college).
Although I'll probably never tell a soul its name lol I barely have any experience with game engines at that time.
 

LoveRedHairedGirl

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The Ami being dead and being a premonition/ghost is plausible. But if the Ami is Maya and Sensei's estranged daughter theory turns out to be true I will break into the nearest animal shelter, cover myself in peanut butter, have the the animals lick said peanut butter off my naked body record it and post on here.
I will remember it.
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Antosha

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We're all actually Sel's alts, except for you
Shhhhhhhhh! I'm we're you're not supposed to tell!

Awww shucks, love ya too dickhead. :ROFLMAO:
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The magic of renpy is that you can make a good game with zero coding skills. Sel's code is a complete mess, yes
I mean, it isn't even the code, exactly, though he's got so many one-shot variables — it's the whole idea of game design that he seems to have completely decided not to worry about. His whole concept of user experience and logical event progression seems to be "poke around randomly for hours, clicking on buttons until something somehow works."

I mean, it does make me wonder if his non-interactive writing ignores pacing and plot progression as badly as his game does. Or maybe, as others have suggested, he's just trolling us and this random walk approach is somehow an experience he thinks communicates... something.
 
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That being said, his idea of engaging gameplay within the constraints of the Renpy engine is still pretty fucking dumb. I just attribute this to him being a chaotic genius of sorts, to put it mildly.
The echo chamber of psychophants (misspelling intentional) praising Sensei Quest on discord and calling it "fun" makes me even more pessimistic about the survival of the human species.

Dude can write, though. I am way too invested in the emotional and sexual life of a predatory teacher, his harem of broken teenagers, and supernatural beings that may not exist outside of a constructed reality.
 

barglenarglezous

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I mean, it does make me wonder if his non-interactive writing ignores pacing and plot progression as badly as his game does. Or maybe, as others have suggested, he's just trolling us and this random walk approach is somehow an experience he thinks communicates... something.
It communicates exactly what he wants it to -- his contempt for us, the player.

Seriously, read through all the narration in the game through that lens and the contempt becomes bright as day.
 

spam753

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I've played version 0.36 last und updated to 0.44 yesterday and I'm stuck now. Even the guide mod doesn't help.

Sensei is depressed at home and only wants to visit a couple of places (Archery, Koi Café, Library, Pool, Bar, Cathedral) and call a couple of people (Ayane, Kaori, Niki, Nodoka, Rin, Touka, Tsubase).

I can't trigger any further events and don't know how to get out of this loop.
 

Yggdrasil_Frahma

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I've played version 0.36 last und updated to 0.44 yesterday and I'm stuck now. Even the guide mod doesn't help.

Sensei is depressed at home and only wants to visit a couple of places (Archery, Koi Café, Library, Pool, Bar, Cathedral) and call a couple of people (Ayane, Kaori, Niki, Nodoka, Rin, Touka, Tsubase).

I can't trigger any further events and don't know how to get out of this loop.
This is the intended experience... DEPRESSION IS FUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do we get out of it??????????????
 
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Meskal1ne

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To be fair to him, Sel is first and foremost a writer, this is clearly his strength and where his talent lies.
Imagine if Sel would have ability to share money and another person would be responsible for programming, animations etc.
It would be so huge.
 

Yggdrasil_Frahma

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Imagine if Sel would have ability to share money and another person would be responsible for programming, animations etc.
It would be so huge.
He would never let someone else touch his game like that. It's his game. It belongs to him. Imagine having to share credits - no way!

EDIT: For the thing after LiL, though, definitely. That won't have animations though (probably).
 
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Meskal1ne

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He would never let someone else touch his game like that. It's his game. It belongs to him. Imagine having to share credits - no way!
i don't get it:

It takes a lot of time for him participating in side project
It takes a lot of time for quality plot for lil
He have no time for proper animations or good sandbox options (he said it frankly). Y no he just hire a man who can help him? I dont think that it will cost a lot of money\reputation risks for him.
 

Yggdrasil_Frahma

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i don't get it:

It takes a lot of time for him participating in side project
It takes a lot of time for quality plot for lil
He have no time for proper animations or good sandbox options (he said it frankly). Y no he just hire a man who can help him? I dont think that it will cost a lot of money\reputation risks for him.
It's the pride of a creator. This came up way back when the phone was being implemented to replace the generic list of names. The more people work on something, the more ownership is diluted. You have to think from the perspective of someone spending X hours a day on something almost every day for 4 years. It's "their baby" to use generic terms. It belongs to them. Credits: GAME BY SELEBUS. Now imagine there's some collaborator contributing a lot. Now it's "Game by Selebus and (Partner)." Does it make the game better? Maybe, but now it's not GAME BY SELEBUS. The external taint would rot from within. Every glance at an asset or animation or so on made by the partner would burn and sting and drive one mad. Like, we want to think of the world as a reflection of a creator's mind space, each character a voice in their head given tulpa-like sentience through self-induced madness, whispering at all times and straining against their bonds for individual agency in this world within a world, and suddenly a partner is there? A partner is inside your own mind? A partner is playing with your children like common dolls? No! It's rot! They would need to be purged to make a pure, giggling child again.
 

Dc345

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Imagine if Sel would have ability to share money and another person would be responsible for programming, animations etc.
It would be so huge.
Well Sel did say he is hiring an art team for Nothing is Beautiful when its continued in 6'ish years
 
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Funny cause I always thought Bingoogus was always suspicious lol but turns out he's...dunce :KEK:
And that's just one of the reasons why he's among my top tier LiL users.

Anyways, now if you guys don't mind, I'll post my ramblings and burnt ones as well.

Bye!

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fasoaga

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After reading nodoka's talk with otoha and akira's visit to Terminal 22, i started thinking about offsprings.

-Sekai, Nozomu, and Akira are all created by characters (Yuu as a main contributor) in terminal 22, and all of them are connected to gods or orbs.

-There was a car crash that both killed sekai and nozomu and probably a third person, but im not sure if it's in Terminal 22 or 23.

-Now we have 2 (or 3) orb released, and akira jumping off the roof causes fourth orb to release and became the god. Which in turn creates the terminal 23 and puts akira as main character just like the Yuu for the Terminal 22.

-And now gods are asking Akira to breed so they have new orb holders or just wanna have more airbnb?

Who had the 3rd orb? Maya, the one we see hung herself in happy events? (That ould both release the orb and causes Akira to jump as well.)

Can someone smarter tell me where i'm wrong? I'm still replaying the game and damn this game is too long.
 
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barglenarglezous

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Well Sel did say he is hiring an art team for Nothing is Beautiful when its continued in 6'ish years
He wants a custom graphics engine for it, rather than repurposing Koikatsu like he is for LiL, which I honestly can't blame him for.
 
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