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Might be the first time I read one of your long posts. Cant say more, than that I agree. Also based. BTW, what was the reaction of the three japanese GAMERS who actually played Lil, to the game?
One loved it so much he declared he liked it more than Subahibi despite the immense social cost that came with that (lol). He's in the process of writing a massive, artful post which I will share when he is done. He would have finished by now but he hated 0.45 and didn't want to write with seethe in his heart. (By the way, by Japanese VN readers I mean bilingual Westerners often living in Japan who mainly read Japanese VNs. Basically the opposite of WEG gamers who found LiL on itch.io and played it as their first VN. Unsurprisingly, Japanese people don't know English very well and are not interested in English-only VNs.)

One is fascinated by the denpa/plot but has a strong revulsion for all the slice of life. He considers LiL a valuable experience and is glad it was forced upon him but has little enthusiasm from the heart for it as a result. One interesting thing in his evaluation is that he hates the so-called "hivemind" of the heroines in how they are all drawn to Sensei and talk about his dick. It was comments like this that made me start thinking about the possibility of an 'actual' hivemind or 'actual' brainwashing going on of some sort, as one theory among many, which lately has gained weight due to all this rabies stuff.

One is mixed in that, let's say, he likes 50% of characters but dislikes the other 50% of characters, such that he enjoys the game and every scene with Niki etc etc but immediately wants to shoot his brains out for any scene with Miku. He is strongly a proponent that the cast should have been halved, and it's due to him that I came up with the concept of "favorite character RNG" which is the idea that one's LiL experience greatly depends on the pseudorandom chance of how much they like each member of the cast. If you like 5 and dislike 15 you're in for a bad time, if you like 15 and dislike 5 it'll be better, etc etc. He also wrote a very long essay of constructive criticism for Selebus but tossed it into the trash after determining Selebus was not someone who listens fairly to criticism (lol).

There is also a highly intellectual person who doesn't read many VNs who started not due to me brokering points but simply because they have a keen insight for literature and noticed from my screenshots the game was something special. He by far has responded to LiL the best and made it his mission for all his close friends and family to play the game. If Selebus knew this person he would probably be overjoyed, there really is no better model of a player: someone who solves puzzles entirely on their own no matter how many hours it takes, someone who sincerely considers the writing specifically to be among America's greatest (he humorously has called LiL 'the latest great American novel' or something), someone who shills the game, etc etc. Sadly, he will hear of him only indirectly in this post.


Overall not so bad considering how tough the crowd was.
 

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Because it's absolute cinema. Shock value works, and it leaves you guessing what's happening and what will happen.
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It makes Sensei look like the main character, the one character that will go against unsurmountable odds. Meaning, the stuff most would find appealing at first sight. It's dishonest marketing, but, guess what? It just works.
Btw, pretty sure that account is an AI-written bot. Looong posts that don’t quite hold together. “Responses” that aren’t actually responses. That kind of thing.

I mean, if something it said sparked a thought, go for it. But don’t expect a rich exchange of views.

ETA: 2400 pages on 12/24/24. Heh. (Or 24.12.24 if you’re not from these Benighted States.)
 
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Because it's absolute cinema. Shock value works, and it leaves you guessing what's happening and what will happen.
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It makes Sensei look like the main character, the one character that will go against unsurmountable odds. Meaning, the stuff most would find appealing at first sight. It's dishonest marketing, but, guess what? It just works.
Yeah, I'm not surprised at why it works, so I just roll with it. A picture is worth a thousand words, and leaving mysteries to the imagination allows someone to imagine greater things, as opposed to linking Uta dabbing or something like that. It would be nice if something like it existed within the work itself. There is exactly ONE time where I decided to dip my toes into spoiler territory and link a clip of Ad Infinitum, but that went horribly since the person I showed it to wasn't inoculated to HOPE and mostly just found their dialogue hilariously immersion-breaking, which to be fair I should have seen coming. But yeah. LiL is all about the text, after all...


Btw, pretty sure that account is an AI-written bot. Looong posts that don’t quite hold together. “Responses” that aren’t actually responses. That kind of thing.

I mean, if something it said sparked a thought, go for it. But don’t expect a rich exchange of views.

ETA: 2400 pages on 12/24/24. Heh.
Nah, I just spent an hour+ writing the post. I'm not sure what you mean by 'don't quite hold together' but perhaps I do end up scatterbrained by the end of them. I also don't know what you mean by responses that aren't actually responses. I'm making an effort to not argue or belittle others so that one day F95 will accept me and I can hold hands with everyone here as brothers again, so perhaps you are interpreting my evasive lack of hostility as empty responses.

I'm at my Mom's so trying to keep the degeneracy to a minimum, but still had to at least log in here and wish you all a Merry Christmas and delicious food and a hopefully equally nice and wholesome Christmas event coming in January.
Holy based. Merry Christmas, my friend Dean.
 
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Btw, pretty sure that account is an AI-written bot. Looong posts that don’t quite hold together. “Responses” that aren’t actually responses. That kind of thing.

I mean, if something it said sparked a thought, go for it. But don’t expect a rich exchange of views.
Eh, I don't really mind it even if it's true or not. I enjoyed the pre-Parahumans 2 scene of the AIs simulating a forum discussion.
 

lolzmandude

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good god why did the lust requirements just fucking double. it's almost like the game doesn't want me to do them. HMMMM
and why is.. Futaba's 49 specifically? I don't know if there's an actual spoiler reason for that so I'm doing the spoiler thing just in case and if it is a spoiler thing I'm not sure I want the answer
 

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Btw, pretty sure that account is an AI-written bot. Looong posts that don’t quite hold together. “Responses” that aren’t actually responses. That kind of thing.

I mean, if something it said sparked a thought, go for it. But don’t expect a rich exchange of views.

ETA: 2400 pages on 12/24/24. Heh. (Or 24.12.24 if you’re not from these Benighted States.)
100% Not a bot. You might be able to convince me that its artificially lengthened but I doubt even that.
One is fascinated by the denpa/plot but has a strong revulsion for all the slice of life.
One of the many phases I went through playing this game.
Found the game on itch and the first thing I did was skip through all the text to get to the first h-scene ofc :‎D and damnn, was it a lot of text. Wasnt even sure I would be able to read it.

I got around to reading from the beginning and the things I remember the most from that time are how weird Senseis model looked and I found the "happy scenes" with all the flashing pretentious, cringe and nothing burgers.

After that I got hooked on the plot of the whole world resetting and all that, so I greatly preferred Maya events, since her events moved the plot the most. I felt like the plot was absolute drip-feed with how slow it was moving. But slowly I realized that even the "slice of life" events were very entertaining and the character writing was absolute fire, so I got to liking pretty much anything the game offered.

I would guess that around chapter 2 I realized that this game was absolute cinema and that I wont be able to ever find something similar to this. Got myself completely swallowed by the story and characters.

Then I guess the final stage would be when I started to like every character around the end of chapter 3. Till that point I still had some that I found at least boring (Tsuneyo).
 
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One loved it so much he declared he liked it more than Subahibi despite the immense social cost that came with that (lol). He's in the process of writing a massive, artful post which I will share when he is done. He would have finished by now but he hated 0.45 and didn't want to write with seethe in his heart. (By the way, by Japanese VN readers I mean bilingual Westerners often living in Japan who mainly read Japanese VNs. Basically the opposite of WEG gamers who found LiL on itch.io and played it as their first VN. Unsurprisingly, Japanese people don't know English very well and are not interested in English-only VNs.)

One is fascinated by the denpa/plot but has a strong revulsion for all the slice of life. He considers LiL a valuable experience and is glad it was forced upon him but has little enthusiasm from the heart for it as a result. One interesting thing in his evaluation is that he hates the so-called "hivemind" of the heroines in how they are all drawn to Sensei and talk about his dick. It was comments like this that made me start thinking about the possibility of an 'actual' hivemind or 'actual' brainwashing going on of some sort, as one theory among many, which lately has gained weight due to all this rabies stuff.

One is mixed in that, let's say, he likes 50% of characters but dislikes the other 50% of characters, such that he enjoys the game and every scene with Niki etc etc but immediately wants to shoot his brains out for any scene with Miku. He is strongly a proponent that the cast should have been halved, and it's due to him that I came up with the concept of "favorite character RNG" which is the idea that one's LiL experience greatly depends on the pseudorandom chance of how much they like each member of the cast. If you like 5 and dislike 15 you're in for a bad time, if you like 15 and dislike 5 it'll be better, etc etc. He also wrote a very long essay of constructive criticism for Selebus but tossed it into the trash after determining Selebus was not someone who listens fairly to criticism (lol).

There is also a highly intellectual person who doesn't read many VNs who started not due to me brokering points but simply because they have a keen insight for literature and noticed from my screenshots the game was something special. He by far has responded to LiL the best and made it his mission for all his close friends and family to play the game. If Selebus knew this person he would probably be overjoyed, there really is no better model of a player: someone who solves puzzles entirely on their own no matter how many hours it takes, someone who sincerely considers the writing specifically to be among America's greatest (he humorously has called LiL 'the latest great American novel' or something), someone who shills the game, etc etc. Sadly, he will hear of him only indirectly in this post.


Overall not so bad considering how tough the crowd was.
Well who could guess that there are really Japanese reading LiL lol. Despite being fully American novel and writing style, I could argue some thinking and ideas in LiL is quite oriental thus it didn't come that much of a surprise. Though rather than Subahibi with which each Denpa visual novel seems inevitably have to compare. Some of the ramblings and reminds me of Kyojin-tachi which experiences more on language and subjectivity of fictional characters and authenticity of game or any medium themselves while ruthlessly unveiling intrusion of author to every visible pore of the game.

I would call LiL as the greatest post-modernism American novel had it not been such a conceitful and self-righteous author. Let's not concern my congenial prejudice on English novels and favor on classical Russian ones here first.
 

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Well who could guess that there are really Japanese reading LiL lol. Despite being fully American novel and writing style, I could argue some thinking and ideas in LiL is quite oriental thus it didn't come that much of a surprise. Though rather than Subahibi with which each Denpa visual novel seems inevitably have to compare. Some of the ramblings and reminds me of Kyojin-tachi which experiences more on language and subjectivity of fictional characters and authenticity of game or any medium themselves while ruthlessly unveiling intrusion of author to every visible pore of the game.

I would call LiL as the greatest post-modernism American novel had it not been such a conceitful and self-righteous author. Let's not concern my congenial prejudice on English novels and favor on classical Russian ones here first.
Well, in all fairness, the author of the greatest modernist novel was certainly conceited and self-righteous. If it’s good enough for James Joyce… ;)
 

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Depends if you are going for the green path or not. If you are going for green then the answer is obviously always going to be the worst looking option.
I don't know what that means? green like getting all scenes? 'cause they show as green when completed right?
edit: maybe not scenes but events is the word
 

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Well if any sex happens it has to be in "A Part of Your World". A Talk shouldn't extend into A Touch.
Well i dont know where thats done but isnt something like "a talk" when some parents teach their children about sexual things or something like that? In this case Sensei may just teach Tsukasa something in a practical way

good god why did the lust requirements just fucking double. it's almost like the game doesn't want me to do them. HMMMM
and why is.. Futaba's 49 specifically? I don't know if there's an actual spoiler reason for that so I'm doing the spoiler thing just in case and if it is a spoiler thing I'm not sure I want the answer
If this is the event i think i remember missing it because its not Futaba instead its Makoto's lust. I would recomend set the 2 of them at 49 just in case
 

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If this is the event i think i remember missing it because its not Futaba instead its Makoto's lust. I would recomend set the 2 of them at 49 just in case
I double checked when I wrote it and I was correct. but you might also be correct because of the name of the event but also it's not the first event I've seen where the requirement changed once I met one.
 

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I double checked when I wrote it and I was correct. but you might also be correct because of the name of the event but also it's not the first event I've seen where the requirement changed once I met one.
Yeah, i double checked (i remember missing it the first time, since then i have it in my memory xd)
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Yeah, i double checked (i remember missing it the first time, since then i have it in my memory xd)
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yeah that's right, aight fair enough.

and I no longer need help with the sana thing I think I made a decision I might regret

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