Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

Reiyayru · Thursday at 9:01 AM

So just finished the update (Had to go back after seeing two missed events and take advantage of the skip button((which also made me realize how much dialogue there is and how I actually enjoy reading it cause I got back to that part very quickly)) and use URM as others have said) It was...enjoyable (I may or may not have to replay this update to really absorb everything and see anything I know I probably missed)

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AgumenticR · Thursday at 9:02 AM

shmurfer said:
She's pretty good, but 2 minutes later we see her losing to a ghost.

Losing? Nah, she'd win.

Sekai wouldn't bother to appear if she didn't see herself in Niki.

DeSkel15 · Thursday at 9:06 AM

Dc345 said:
Has anybody worked up a theory on the time traveling scarf yet?

I've theorized about the Scarf in The Paradoxical Theory part:

DeSkel15 said:
Something interesting that I don't think has gained much notice is that it was again implied that even Sensei being aware of the Resets isn't relatively normal in the Resets.

In Ayane's Chapter 4 'Chamomile' Event, the Alt Maya Prime reveals:

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That in her world (Football Sensei), she is the only one who knows about the Resets. Her Sensei doesn't and it seems like her Ami probably doesn't either (or at least this Maya implies that), and it seems like none of the previous Senseis had figured it out in this world either.

Our Maya Prime actually had also implied that Sensei being aware of Resets was a new thing:

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So, something probably happened before our Sensei showed up that made it possible for Sensei to make it to the roof and become aware of things. (Our Maya Prime didn't seem surprised that our Sensei knew of the Resets so it probably happened before Chapter 1)

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Yumi also making it to the Rooftop and surviving, probably disproves any sex related theory on getting to the roof, and Ayane's "only 3 membership" theory as well.

There needing to be some kind of sacrifice possibly still works. Yuki, for example, seemed to go missing soon before Yumi made it to the roof, which seems awfully similar to what happened with Ayane's chicken son (Todd)...who Sensei still hasn't told her that he had found dead... I wonder if Yumi might bring that up?...

Also:

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I wouldn't really put it past some of these girls to drug rape Sensei, tbh. I would expect some to be okay with it, while others wouldn't, though, in game, and probably IRL. Realistically, Morality varies from person to person, and usually from context to context.

Albeit, to further advance the theory, Himawari might be trying to create a paradox to keep the Well from drying up leading to a game over. She might have been doing this Scarf Paradox to prevent a bad ending, but it depends on where this Ami/Niki stuff is going since that seems to be the current "new" thing that may break the cycle:

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shmurfer · Thursday at 9:19 AM

I will say nothing about the Himawari appearance makes it so the 3000 affection is required. You might just be getting an extra perspective on something that happens either way. We'd have to wait for a future update to see whether Ayane still has or hasn't got the scarf based on the high affection levels.

KO-Kat · Thursday at 9:30 AM

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Budoop · Thursday at 9:45 AM

KO-Kat said:
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Most likely yes.
Also, tin foil hat time cause of the Himawari event:

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aramaug · Thursday at 9:52 AM

Great update. Here's some of my general thoughts on characters and events. Lore stuff will be coming in a later post.

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Yarazin · Thursday at 9:59 AM

.46 thoughts.

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Yggdrasil_Frahma · Thursday at 10:08 AM

Re: Scarf, I shall spare our timid fellow a direct reply, but if I remember correctly then the scene commentary for Stray Cat (the initial scarf scene) reveals that Maya lost it when the time loop began since she got it at the end of the year. It says, 'how long has it been since she has touched this fabric,' which implies ownership and then loss beyond what was already apparent. We can imagine something happening at the end of the school year that made someone Wish they were back at the start of the school year, which unfortunately was before she was gifted the scarf, which means bye bye scarf. It would follow, then, that Neo Maya would not know the scarf, since she was reset to the 'start' of the loop, and never experienced the pre-loop (or end-of-loop) where the scarf was initially given. P.S., it seems intuitive to me that Maya would only have 'confessed her feelings' for Sensei after several years of fucking and so on, which means that I doubt it was from the tutorship era or anything too long ago. Perhaps the scarf is what inspired her confession.

Of course, LiL continuity is intentionally mysterious so I don't take any of this as factual, and at this point my brain is rotten with LiL lore being mere patchwork, but it has never seemed strange to me that Neo Maya would be unfamiliar with the scarf.

Edit: Also, fact-checking this post forced me to re-read the parts where Selebus describes all the girls as extensions of himself, and Maya calls herself a 'part of Selebus' and thus capable of reading his thoughts, so fuck all of you. I am now miserable and my day is ruined.

spodermen · Thursday at 10:16 AM

i know this seems insane, but i hope one day we get some urethral stuff

VoidExile · Thursday at 10:26 AM

shmurfer said:
put your mouse through a thin corridor and then the exorcist

I know exactly what you are referring to. That one is infamous.

Not nearly enough info regarding the drm thing. I'm just wondering if the current non paid on this site won't do that and if the drm thing will get rid of saves in another folder. There is the one following the users path and then the one stored in the game folder but if I make another game folder that doesn't have the care packages would those get destroyed too?

Apollo259 · Thursday at 10:45 AM

If I didn't hate chipmunks before (and I did) I sure as hell do now (even more).

So I found an instrumental version of the same song and replaced it in the game files so its less annoying (understatement) and still fits to some extent. I have not finished the update yet. I quit to replace the song as soon as I heard it because I have an irrational desire to kill everyone in a 50 mile radius when I hear those bastards sing. So I thought I would post the replacement song here and maybe save some lives in the process if anyone else has the same reaction as me.

As I have not finished the update yet I have not read anything in the thread, so apologies if someone has already posted a no chipmunk patch.

Fire Lord Zuko · Thursday at 10:48 AM

Tsukasa seriously deserves the world… She was definitely the standout character for me in this update.

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Hmm… what else.

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Soo yeah. Pretty solid update overall. It feels good to be back to our monthly LiL fix.

Budoop · Thursday at 10:55 AM

Fire Lord Zuko said:
- There’s a whole scene with Himawari if Ayane’s affection is over 3,000?? That’s… interesting, but… I have to wonder the reasoning for it. Is it simply a bonus scene for supposedly grinding that many affection points, or will this affect something major eventually? I suppose we’ll have to see. [/SPOILER]

Soo yeah. Pretty solid update overall. It feels good to be back to our monthly LiL fix.

It absolutely has plot relevance, I put down some loose thoughts above on it.

LessonsInDissonance · Thursday at 11:07 AM

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shmurfer · Thursday at 11:33 AM

VoidExile said:
I know exactly what you are referring to. That one is infamous.

Not nearly enough info regarding the drm thing. I'm just wondering if the current non paid on this site won't do that and if the drm thing will get rid of saves in another folder. There is the one following the users path and then the one stored in the game folder but if I make another game folder that doesn't have the care packages would those get destroyed too?

Fundamentally, renpy uses both sets of saves at the same time, and the DRM would delete both at the same time. I'm not sure if delete is the correct word, or if corrupt is more correct. if it corrupts all the saves, and that corruption is marked as a newer save than the backups you might have, your backups would be overwritten with the corrupt saves. You would need to delete all the corrupt saves in both locations before restoring the good saves.

As an example, I'm not sure if the next person I'm responding to got owned by it.

EjMina said:

Hey everyone I need help my save just got nuke I don't know what happened but all it say is this:

Code:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 499, in __call__
AttributeError: 'absolute' object has no attribute '__dict__'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "_layout/screen_load_save.rpymc", line 35, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 821, in execute
File "renpy/python.py", line 1178, in py_exec_bytecode
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_load_save.rpym", line 35, in <module>
File "renpy/ui.py", line 301, in interact
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 2261, in interact
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 3324, in interact_core
File "renpy/display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
File "renpy/display\transition.py", line 53, in event
File "renpy/display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
File "renpy/display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
File "renpy/display\screen.py", line 793, in event
File "renpy/display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
File "renpy/display\layout.py", line 1523, in event
File "renpy/display\layout.py", line 288, in event
File "renpy/display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
File "renpy/display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 1180, in event
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 1101, in handle_click
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 394, in run
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 401, in run
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 499, in __call__
File "renpy/loadsave.py", line 826, in load
File "renpy/compat\pickle.py", line 104, in loads
File "renpy/compat\pickle.py", line 101, in load
AttributeError: 'absolute' object has no attribute '__dict__'

Your save either uses the guide mod and you don't have it installed, or you added the care packages and didn't disable the drm / updated without redisabling it afterward. re-add the guide mod even if it's out of date if that's the issue, otherwise I hope you backed up your save elsewhere.

Moonflare · Thursday at 12:25 PM

(this post has to be divided into two because I ran over the image limit)

PART I

I purposefully waited to comment on the Himawari thing, so after reading the regulars' opinions, the time is now.

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(This post continues on Part II)

Moonflare · Thursday at 12:25 PM

(this post has to be divided into two because I ran over the image limit)

PART II

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Himawari's plan should be coming through on the next update. At the very least these posts should help with knowing which questions we are looking for to get answered when it arrives.

Edit: Minor point but Himawari's dressed as Yumi during the encounter, at least with Yumi's outfit from the character screen:

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Also, all images should be reuploaded now, sorry for the delay if you had to wait.

Yarazin · Thursday at 12:46 PM

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Not since the 80s when I had a butterfly knife due to all the ninja movies.

Agree

Double agree! Adorable!

Ohh shit I just got the turtle thing. Awesome and thanks!

shmurfer said:
During these days he was an active poster and was generally pleasant and helpful, like Moonflare today would be.

Please don't turn evil Moonie! It would depress me about as much as the Maya stuff.

DeanNoriko said:
So are those >3000 love events supposed to be just Easter Eggs or actual canon events for people who data mine (i.e. check URM or code)?
I haven't checked those out yet, but without having spoiled myself too much, at least this one seems rather insightful, I suppose?

Because if they are actually relevant to the plot, I'd find it a bit annoying to hide it behind something that you would only find out by tinkering in the code and also only realistically achievable by cheating.

Im hoping that it is actually happening, and that we will see her again on the shopping date.

SlidingSubject said:
Seems like Sel did TWO oopsie woopsie this update.
EDIT: Scratch that, it's three.

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I'm thinking the date wont actually be on her birthday. I hope I am wrong and we get it next update.

AgumenticR said:
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Who would win: Bazillion years of murderous swing moods or 1(one) loving girl.

Yeah I love Niki so much.

To reply to the other discussion about Himawari's plan. Remember when she talked about the Nakayama's maybe not being real? Maybe they are part of her master plan to fix things and that is why they throw so many things off. Even this weird version of Ami seems unsure about Niki.

DeanNoriko · Thursday at 12:57 PM

spodermen said:
i know this seems insane, but i hope one day we get some urethral stuff

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