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DyonisXX

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O Moonflare, I summon thee, provide me with required knowledge to observe upon newly added content and mention any stat requirements
 

Moonflare

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It's a good game. (Who knows what the requirements are for a "Very bad boy"?)
There is no event called very bad boy, if you're referring to the missed event named "bad boy", then you're looking for the requirements for the happy event "good boy" - which is having taken Sara's route aka having started a sexual relationship with her.
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DeanNoriko

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Quick opinion on the Tsubasa scene, before delving into Kirin's scene:
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I have to disagree with you here.
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That being said, I wholeheartedly agree with you on the Kirin scene. For the record, I did mention it twice, just not in enough detail. It did make me emotional as well.
Really hope we get to see more scenes like that in the future updates. Because, despite what some other users here said recently, not all sex scenes are just sex scenes for the sake of providing replays and appeasing gooners. Like the Futaba scene, or Tsubasa's or Kirin's almost sex scene, they help characters grow, or at least reflect on themselves.
 
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Moonflare

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I have to disagree with you here.
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That being said, I wholeheartedly agree with you on the Kirin scene. For the record, I did mention it twice, just not in enough detail. It did make me emotional as well.
Really hope we get to see more scenes like that in the future updates. Because, despite what some other users here said recently, not all sex scenes are just sex scenes for the sake of providing replays and appeasing gooners. Like the Futaba scene, or Tsubasa's or Kirin's almost sex scene, they help characters grow, or at least reflect on themselves.
I did not mean that Akira's mentally challenged because he has a kink. I mean that she's taking advantage of a mentally challenged person because he's hallucinating throughout the scene (and the entire day) and she's aware of it:
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Anyway, it's whatever. I'm not here trying to argue it was a second "stomachache" or anything. I just didn't like it. But, again, to each their own.

Edit: I have added a clarification on the monks on the original post though, to dispel any confusion.
 

DeanNoriko

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I did not mean that Akira's mentally challenged because he has a kink. I mean that she's taking advantage of a mentally challenged person because he's hallucinating throughout the scene (and the entire day) and she's aware of it:
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Anyway, it's whatever. I'm not here trying to argue it was a second "stomachache" or anything. I just didn't like it. But, again, to each their own.
I mean, that is a very fair point. I agree with you in principal, and it probably says a lot about me (especially since I don't even have that kink) that I still found it hot.

At the end of the day, it was probably partially for the same reason that it worked on Akira as well. It was unexpected, both him and the reader expected Tsubasa to be mad and scold him, so it was both a surprising turn of events and a change of pace, with her taking away the control from Akira, putting him in a situation he isn't used to (anymore), but clearly still longs for.
 

LessonsInDissonance

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That might be the least relatable tier list I've ever seen.
I should've specified that C tier doesn't mean I dislike the character but that they're in the middlezone for me.

Best girl is best girl
S tier means I absolutely love the character
A tier means I love the character
B tier means I like the character
C tier means it's alright
D tier means I dislike the character

there should be an E tier between D and trash but there just arent characters I don't like.
 
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LessonsInDissonance

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That makes a bit more sense yh.
Poor Maya tho :(
She is the character I hate the most (besides HOPE and Selebus if you want to include him)

I never liked her, but there are a few things in particular that made me hate her the most, maybe in the future people will understand me better.
 

Yggdrasil_Frahma

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Though, I don't think their core beliefs have changed.
This is something that's hard for me to judge. After much contemplation, I have concluded it's hard enough to model characters normally, yet here we have potential brainwashing / skinwalking / unrealness complicating matters to nearly never before seen levels.
For example: is it a core belief of Kirin changing for her to quickly get over her sister being sexually assaulted? If we imagine Kirin as a real human being, I think she may have stabbed a bitch.
Is it a core belief of Futaba changing for her to be livid at Nodoka for exposing her private life, only to seemingly forget this and now feel totally fine with her class cheering her on as she publicly paws for sensei cock? If we imagine her as a normal girl, I think she would have died of embarrassment on the spot.
Is it a core belief of Chika changing for her to stop believing that love is monog- ahaha, I don't even have to finish this one.
(Universally: at this point, I feel there's no way the whole class is so comfortable with polyamory... it'd be a huge coincidence if almost are of them share the core belief it's okay for 1 adult man to fuck 20 teenagers at once.)

Another interesting thing is how getting Ayane to accept the harem was once an excruciating character-defining scene centering around the list, but now she seemingly doesn't remember the list, but is still totally okay with it.

Of course, an excellent aspect of fiction is that characters are black boxes of infinite depth which can surprise and delight, so I profess zero mastery or total knowledge regarding their core beliefs, but this update (along with some prior) did seem to reach the point of core aspects of characters being altered/modified such that they are increasingly a bit unrecognizable. I may be totally off base though. All I can really say is that the intuition within me which provides positive/negative responses to what I'm reading has stopped providing positive responses to the interactions between heroines who I find myself increasingly struggle to recognize. And, I admit, some of this must be inspired by my knowledge of Selebus's promise to have 'threesomes of each dorm' and 'every incest combination,' because if things feel bad to me now, I can only imagine how it will be when it really is a 20-girl orgy.

But indeed, that may be the point. I really hope it isn't since it is incorrigibly a western author thing to distort characters for their metaphysical points, but we shall see.
 
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SlidingSubject

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*everything*
I don't think Kirin changed much, she loves her sister, but is a bit lot of a mess to deal with that love and pretty much prefers to consciously deal with her love for Sensei.
Futaba sadly has always been a bit of a pushover, and her entire character arc has been the gradual degradation of her self everything in relation to Sensei. He just takes it too far sometimes.
Chika, due to her own life, has always wanted to find THE ONE, and twisting reality so her ideal isn't destroyed is not that hard to believe.
Ayane too, over the resets she came to notice Sensei is broken and still loves him, but to me it seems she wants to fix him so she can be his only one, and failing that, which to her seems like an increasingly probable situation, just be part of his world.

You can also easily blame divine intervention, as they keep the mentality that brought those changes but not the memories themselves, so they don't have context for it and it destroys their mental. See Ayane not remembering the notebook, Chika literally deluding herself and Futaba's Nodoka book and TSS events. Kirin is just a mess.
And those promises? I think they will happen in the dark route will be a thing.

One can only hope Selebus hasn't fallen into that trap, or that he knows how to contextualize it.
 

Apollo259

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I don't think that's the case, Ayane doesn't remember anything from the reset so she's very unlikely to actually do anything with it
with Maya suggesting a shopping "date", and remembering that Himawari was the one selling the scarf to Akira, I think it's much more likely she's trying to reforce the event we saw in chapter 1
To introduce more time paradox shenanigans maybe this is how she got the scarf to sell to Akira in the first place. There is probably some implications in that if it were the case but I have too much holiday day drinking brain damage to think of what it would be at the moment.
 

LessonsInDissonance

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I'm a bit sad that so many people didn't "like" this update, or at least not as much as others, for me it's one of my favorite updates.
I understand the criticisms regarding the whole "nobody cares if akira is fucking everyone" but it's part of the plot, give it a bit of time.
Otoha redemption arc will also go hard.
Tsukioka plotline is really taking over and I think it wont end here.
Akira's relationship with Tsukasa which many people despise is an insight to how Maya x Akira might've started (which some of those same guys are shipping).
 

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I'm starting to lose faith or the tierlist. Updating older characters have become difficult. I have to pay attention to my general opinion of the characters but when there are gonna be 35 characters+ it becomes very hard to memorize everything. So unless something really bad or really good happens or I just suddenly realize I like a character a lot more than another in the same tier, they might get demoted. Then there is the naming and all that... Welp. Anyway.
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