Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

Regarding Yumi's tsundere nature. I get the impression that its more of a borderline thing than full on tsundere. Its not that she already likes him at the start of the game. Its that she wants to rely on him. (I'm pretty sure the game outright says this at some point) Not necessarily as a love interest at first, but just a person that wont give up on, or abandon/hurt her. Its a struggle between wanting to rely on him/trust him, but over and over seeing and learning things about him that scream to her that she should not. She learns these things and it upsets her, I don't think its entirely because she learns he might love someone else as you would expect from a jealous tsundere, but more that she learns he is a predator and keeps seeing things that confirm it to her. It's that repeated destruction of what in her mind she wanted him to be. Over and over again she reconciles something he did and he does something else. But in much the same way that she seems to still love her mum despite it all. She still wants to rely on Akira despite everything she learns about who he is. The struggle is the conflict between knowing what he is and that he will inevitably hurt her. The fear of that. But still caring about him despite everything and her having no idea what to do about it. Throw in the teenage hormones to further complicate it, as well as other things I did not mention. Then you end up with a character that I don't think is actually tsundere in the traditional sense.

Perhaps that all still fits under the tsundere umbrella and I'm just holding an umbrella that's been mangled by the wind without realising it. In which case this post is probably strange to read if I have managed to described tsundere while saying its not entirely tsundere. But I guess writing in depth characters makes it harder if not silly to encompass them in single archetypal categories anyway. So maybe it was pointless for me to type this out and post it in the first place?

I think what you're trying to say is that she's a "realistic" tsundere, which means that it's less of an archetype, and more of her having actual legitimate reasons for both wanting to be near Akira and hating that she does. Which leads to the love/hate not out of "charm", or a character she's playing, but an actual fucked up situation of finding yourself desiring someone you really rather didn't.

Spoiler: 3rd dormwars

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Edit: Also, their children would very likely have silver eyes, since both of them do.

 

[Apollo259]

Wait a minute, is this new? I remember reading those words, but I don't recall it being like this (first picture).

Spoiler: On the count of three/not the nightingale

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I think it could also be a case of not showing up in replay, but let's see if someone remembers it.

I'm pretty sure I remember it from when I first played it. Either way it is excluded from the replay. Which explains why I could never find it again, I just assumed I forgot what event it was in.

Spoiler: $ renpy.end_replay

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Edit: I guess you could look in an older version of the game and see if "proboscis.webp/png" is in the files to confirm.

 

[shmurfer]

I've been trying to have saves for each bit of content that is outside of replays but I gotta clue into the fact that something breaks tradition like having affection scores given and then extra scenes appear.

 

[VoidExile]

Day 36 character count 21568.

Spoiler: Day 486-500, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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[givemeabeer]

To stay on the Yumi topic, strangely, I never see any «love», at the beginning, on her part for Sensei.
For me, she's seeking for «attention», but a good attention, and not a physical one.

And she get it when Sensei «try» to help her getting a job. And, for me, that's the moment where a connection, and maybe some love, appear.
And when she saw Makoto with Sensei in the park, she wasn't jealous, but «envious». Because, at that scene in the park, what happen? Nothing. They aren't fucking. Nor kissing. They're barely just talking. (If my memory don't fuck me up again!)
All what Yumi ever wanted. Someone who can hear her out. Someone she can «trust». Someone who can be proud of her.

And, since Sensei isn't exactly what she need, but may be, she help him when he black-out. That's why she stay around when it happen. Not by «love», but with the hope that, if she support/help him, he might be able to support/help her.

Anyway, at least, that's how I see her.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Also, like all of the girls in this game, she have some insecurities. Maybe it's the age, but since I've never be a teenager myself, I don't know what's relevant or not.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

To stay on the Yumi topic, strangely, I never see any «love», at the beginning, on her part for Sensei.
For me, she's seeking for «attention», but a good attention, and not a physical one.

And she get it when Sensei «try» to help her getting a job. And, for me, that's the moment where a connection, and maybe some love, appear.
And when she saw Makoto with Sensei in the park, she wasn't jealous, but «envious». Because, at that scene in the park, what happen? Nothing. They aren't fucking. Nor kissing. They're barely just talking. (If my memory don't fuck me up again!)
All what Yumi ever wanted. Someone who can hear her out. Someone she can «trust». Someone who can be proud of her.

And, since Sensei isn't exactly what she need, but may be, she help him when he black-out. That's why she stay around when it happen. Not by «love», but with the hope that, if she support/help him, he might be able to support/help her.

Anyway, at least, that's how I see her.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Also, like all of the girls in this game, she have some insecurities. Maybe it's the age, but since I've never be a teenager myself, I don't know what's relevant or not.

Also, given how young and insecure she is, I doubt she is aware of those sorts of things you mentioned for the most part, and is instead working off a cocktail of hormones and instincts. Its like, she knows she doesn't want physical stuff, but she kisses Sensei back in "This Town Has Two Halves", and she knows he's manipulative and dangerous, but she let's him get closer and help her job search alone in her room, so I feel like she is a walking contradiction in terms of what she wants. And I think its because she isn't mature enough to understand everything she's feeling and wanting and doing. That's what makes her feel nuanced and interesting, instead of just being a trope.

 

[givemeabeer]

Also, given how young and insecure she is, I doubt she is aware of those sorts of things you mentioned for the most part, and is instead working off a cocktail of hormones and instincts. Its like, she knows she doesn't want physical stuff, but she kisses Sensei back in "This Town Has Two Halves", and she knows he's manipulative and dangerous, but she let's him get closer and help her job search alone in her room, so I feel like she is a walking contradiction in terms of what she wants. And I think its because she isn't mature enough to understand everything she's feeling and wanting and doing. That's what makes her feel nuanced and interesting, instead of just being a trope.

I don't remember her kissing him back in that event. He assault her and she «let» it happen, yes, but nothing more. Or I misread it, but I have big doubt.
Also, I don't agree about Sensei being manipulative and dangerous. In chapter 1 and 2, especially, but even now in chapter 4. He is a child. And that contrast with his student who are, for most of them, much more «mature» and responsible than him.
He rely too much on his students. Makoto, Touka and Maya were the most «important» at helping him. Even Nodoka, at one moment, when Chika and Touka did a «strip-tease» in his room, he seek her help to «solve» this issues.

For the rest of your post, even if I don't agree with it, I can't say you're wrong, just : «I don't see it that way».
And it's always interresting.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

I don't remember her kissing him back in that event. He assault her and she «let» it happen, yes, but nothing more. Or I misread it, but I have big doubt.
Also, I don't agree about Sensei being manipulative and dangerous. In chapter 1 and 2, especially, but even now in chapter 4. He is a child. And that contrast with his student who are, for most of them, much more «mature» and responsible than him.
He rely too much on his students. Makoto, Touka and Maya were the most «important» at helping him. Even Nodoka, at one moment, when Chika and Touka did a «strip-tease» in his room, he seek her help to «solve» this issues.

For the rest of your post, even if I don't agree with it, I can't say you're wrong, just : «I don't see it that way».
And it's always interresting.

I think that’s part of what makes character analysis so fun. We have different takes on the same character and events and get different thing from it.

Additionally, my opinions of each character changes on each playthrough, as I evolve my analysis of them, and that’s what makes it so compelling to me.

EDIT: Also, your name makes me thirsty, and now I’ve gone and gotten a beer…

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

I enjoy the Reset Puzzles for all the weird shit they contain and also because they feel like genuine obstacles you (and Akira) have to overcome.

During Resets, Akira always runs the risk of losing himself, and often blacks out. I enjoy having a sense of agency and feeling more involved in surviving yet another Reset.

Of course, I’m likely in the minority about that, but that’s why I like them.

I definitely will acknowledge that there are certainly some annoying and damn near impossible tasks without looking into the script or using URM, though. Those coffee questions in Times New Roman, man… Just why?

Your monthly reminder that Zuko is a huge M.

 

[alteros]

can I use old versions of the drm and progress mod on newer versions? like the progress mod is for 0.45 and the drm gui file is for 0.42. Also where are the save files so I can make a backup? I think it's "test2" judging by the number of saves but I'm not sure.

Edit: and the size, damn, my LiL save file is over 2 GB

 

[RavenBlackList]

How to activate Reset Event. gone through three week and would not activate, so stuck
Also Chika and Futaba event that list automatic have also not activated.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Still waiting for the rock mystery to be solved:

Spoiler: Remember to smile

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Maybe there isn't anything to decypher yet and it's just the beginning of a new theory for the future

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Returning to Yumi topic.

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[LessonsInDissonance]

This might be a random question, but does anyone have a working 0.29 save file?

I need a save specifically during the puzzles where you ask Yumi and company a few questions, this was around the first attempt to get Yumi and Tsuneyo through a reset.

There's a few things I want to check.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

How to activate Reset Event. gone through three week and would not activate, so stuck
Also Chika and Futaba event that list automatic have also not activated.

I’m not sure which reset event you’re referring to, but I would recommend checking the wiki for event triggers for the specific events you’re having trouble with, if the guide mod isn’t working right for you.

 

[SlidingSubject]

This might be a random question, but does anyone have a working 0.29 save file?

I need a save specifically during the puzzles where you ask Yumi and company a few questions, this was around the first attempt to get Yumi and Tsuneyo through a reset.

There's a few things I want to check.

For some reason I'm not sure if you mean the events before the reset, or the reset itself. 41-5 is the beginning of that chain, and 41-6 is the event with all the ways to brew coffee. Password is Sensei's, the one from the cool rectangle machine.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

What if he misses one of the upcoming Halloweens (2026 or 2027) to celebrate her birthday alone with her

I don’t think it will happen, but I’m huffing that copium right along with you.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

For some reason I'm not sure if you mean the events before the reset, or the reset itself. 41-5 is the beginning of that chain, and 41-6 is the event with all the ways to brew coffee. Password is Sensei's, the one from the cool rectangle machine.

Saves don't work, I need to figure why that is

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Oh... I see. She was mentioning the whitest places first for the funny.

Sike!

Holy fuck, I just realized that having Imani as the teacher might actually be good on account of her personality and interesting topics. Given that she also seem to be somewhat sex positive and up for threesomes, this could be a fucking gold opportunity for everyone involved! The girls get more educated in a fun and engaging way and the mc gets to continue being useless and go around hanging out with the girls because as far as the school is concerned, his the teacher and Imani is the assistant. Whether or not this will cause the girls to fall for Imani and not the mc or whether it won't have any effect at all, or maybe even allow the girls to fall for both and have threesomes enabled, hmmm, so much potential. I would like to say "Sorry, Kirin. Your job has been taken" but I don't think anything is being stolen here, if anything everyone benefits from them both being like that. Okay, this is going into rambling territory.

You have a teacher kink, aren't you? Xddddd

Io is the "I accidentally built a nuclear reactor" kind of girl, isn't she? Only a matter of time I tell you! I made myself laugh.

Io is that type of friends who will build an entire civilization in Minecraft when you'll just ask for a house.

Started thinking about what I would do in the mc's position if I found myself in his body up to my current progression at least knowing what I know about the girls. Just skip to the W spams if you for some weird reason got this far and don't want to read that.
I would try to help Sana be more confident in talking.
Be there as a wingman and friend to lean on for Rin.
Wait and see if Maya decides to initiate something with me but otherwise actually leave her alone.
Make Makoto feel appreciated and encourage her to pursue her dreams but also encourage her to not burn herself out on studying and such.
I guess I would basically just tell Touka to find a way to negotiate with her father about the arranged marriage thing because it's horrible.
Try to get on friendly terms with Niki but say it's not a good idea to get together again. Also try to get her blessing to go out with Noriko if that is something I intend to do.
As for Yumi, I would try to help her as much as I possibly can with getting her life together and just be a friend. Perhaps try to get her and her mother on friendly terms, generally just be there to listen to her because I know she's not an actual threat. If she grows feelings she's willing to show, I will figure that out when I get there and see if anything can be worked out.

You'll end up saying "Teenagers are exhausting" every single day.

Chika to Yumi: "Yeah, well, you're a purde and it's time for you to accept that somebody is probably going to masturbate while thinking about you one day." Who of you is it? Out yourself!

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[SlidingSubject]

Saves don't work, I need to figure why that is

Guide mod maybe? It's the only mod I have installed.