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The one that made me sad
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Selebus man I love your story (or is it not a solo project anymore?)
I've been playing since 0.1 and have seen the characters' grow over the last 2+ years. I just wonder how much was rewritten, when I replay old events a lot of text becomes unskippable. I've seen all of the [deleted] stuff when it was still cannon so I'm wondering - is it worth playing the first ?? parts again? All future scenes will act as if these didn't happen..
In any case in 30 years when I'm retired and this game is finished I'll start from scratch, hopefully making the same mistakes.
Btw I haven't read all the posts so probably it was mentioned - But it looks like event replays don't carry over current game's state so replaying the scene right after unlocking it can give you different outcome that you had a few minutes before.
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There were no major plot changes during the rework, it was mostly slowing the pace at which the early girls get physical with Sensei, and a few scenes were entirely rewritten, but the (non sexual) story beats are the same.
Room With the Clocks was the most obvious change. There's a lot more to that scene now.
The Replay mechanic will always assume a flag is set to False unless that flag has to be True to unlock the scene. So in Replay, it will always assume you're not sleeping with any of the optional girls. This does mean that you'll get different flag-contingent dialogue in a lot of scenes when you watch in Replay.
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Any answer given will be speculation, but here's mine.
So Maya talks about trinities. This is mostly to introduce us to the concept of the Callous, Caring, and Concerned gods, but there are plenty of trinities in real world religions. Greek mythology has several by itself -- The Fates, the Furies, Hecate, and the Medusae all being pretty well-known.
Remember the empty chair in Good Boy? It's made for a small child. Like Maya would have been around the time she met Sensei.
In modern fiction, the Hecate, the Fates, and the Furies kinda get balled up into one, and the maiden/mother/crone arrangement has been used for all three by various authors, so it's hard to say in what capacity Selebus is using them yet.
But yeah, I think Long Maya and Moyo are the other two parts of Maya's divine self.
Remember when she waxed poetic about Vega and Altair? She's telling her story, in a way. She fell in love with Sensei, a mere mortal, and abandoned her divinity to get closer to him, and now she's punished with the time bubble, forced to watch repeatedly as Sensei after Sensei loves everyone but her.
As for what she represents, I believe it's death and decay. The inevitable end for all life.
He didn't want people using his customizations for their own games.
There is now a not-entirely-wholesome scene involving Yumi. There's also a Sensei-not-involved scene with Wakana and Osako.
Specifically, it uses the default value of every flag found in definitions.rpy.
Finally got around to play this update. First, bit annoying that both of osako's events trigger in places where you're supposed to interact with other characters, also true for one Chinami event. Besides that, a relatively tame update where not a lot happens. A consequence of playing a game still in development with that many characters, but it definitely need to lay this foundations for the events to come
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I'm pretty sure "Divinity" here is a euphemism to Innocence, given she was a child when they got involved...
I mean, that would be logical since from what we have seen on happy events, Sensei backstory is pretty much a tale of how much child abuse can fuck up a person's mind.
He got "seduced" when he was a child (by his teacher Sekai) and did the same to Maya, under the same circumstances (Teacher-Student relationship).
Probably he felt so guilty that his mind snapped
About that...
I also think that this passage from the last happy event shows that even though he was manipulated in this "relationship", and maybe even knew that was wrong, he loved Sekai and felt jealous about her relationship with his brother (that's probably how Maya feels too).
sev "It’s raining outside. "
sev "You are watching the water droplets dance down the window as a series of noises assault you from both sides."
sev "On your left, the sound of a stereo’s static screaming- no. Singing to your senses."
sev "Ssssssssssssssssssssss~"
sev "To your right, the repeated clacking of a headboard as it slams against the wall, chipping away at soft white paint you helped spread yourself."
sev "You did it together."
sev "But it is not your headboard that clack-clacks today. It is the headboard of someone else. "
sev "Someone else taking the one thing you love as you are forced to sit there and pretend you don’t know it."
sev "Is it easy playing tricks on yourself?"
sev "Were you ever able to laugh?"
sev "Can you laugh today?"
sev "Or do you still pretend it never rains at all?"
That's some fucked up shit right there
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jeez i guess that’s why it never rains in kumon-miI'm pretty sure "Divinity" here is a euphemism to Innocence, given she was a child when they got involved...
I mean, that would be logical since from what we have seen on happy events, Sensei backstory is pretty much a tale of how much child abuse can fuck up a person's mind.
He got "seduced" when he was a child (by his teacher Sekai) and did the same to Maya, under the same circunstasses (Teacher-Student relationship).
Probably he felt so guilty the his mind snapped
About that...
I also think that this passage from the last happy event shows that even though he was manipulated in this "relationship", and maybe even knew that was wrong, he loved Sekai and felt jealous about her relationship with his brother (that's probably how Maya feels too).
sev "It’s raining outside. "
sev "You are watching the water droplets dance down the window as a series of noises assault you from both sides."
sev "On your left, the sound of a stereo’s static screaming- no. Singing to your senses."
sev "Ssssssssssssssssssssss~"
sev "To your right, the repeated clacking of a headboard as it slams against the wall, chipping away at soft white paint you helped spread yourself."
sev "You did it together."
sev "But it is not your headboard that clack-clacks today. It is the headboard of someone else. "
sev "Someone else taking the one thing you love as you are forced to sit there and pretend you don’t know it."
sev "Is it easy playing tricks on yourself?"
sev "Were you ever able to laugh?"
sev "Can you laugh today?"
sev "Or do you still pretend it never rains at all?"
That some fucked up shit right there
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Not disagreeing with anything you said -- there is definitely a metaphorical component to all this.
But I'm getting strong "also literal' vibes from it.
This certainly could just all be manifestations of Sensei's guilt over the things he's done, but he wasn't in the room when Maya faced her fears, and her experience was remarkably similar to what he experiences in the happy scenes. Then you have shit like Yasu speaking in tongues, and yeah. I think there's also a literal component to all of this. Maya might be an angel who fell to earth, like in Wings of Desire or City of Angels.
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I mean, if this world was created for/by him (as some scenes seem to suggest), who would want to be reminded of the girl you love getting hammered by your brother in the room next door
Well, yes
For now we can assume everything,
like all of it being a "dream" (like that
an Isekai,
a simulation,
a game that create consciousness,
a purgatory/afterlife...
How this "World" works still a mystery
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I was quite impressed during that part as well; I was fully anticipating some dumb stuff like "To your right, kkkkkkkkkkkkkk", but what we got was even more screwed up (or maybe this part of the memory is the meaning of what kkkkkkkkk means?). Also, after going through the event again, the entire scene of Sensei having sex with long Maya seems to unnervingly resemble his past "interaction" with Sekai (a taller female with a Sensei that behaves like a child).I'm pretty sure "Divinity" here is a euphemism to Innocence, given she was a child when they got involved...
I mean, that would be logical since from what we have seen on happy events, Sensei backstory is pretty much a tale of how much child abuse can fuck up a person's mind.
He got "seduced" when he was a child (by his teacher Sekai) and did the same to Maya, under the same circunstasses (Teacher-Student relationship).
Probably he felt so guilty the his mind snapped
About that...
I also think that this passage from the last happy event shows that even though he was manipulated in this "relationship", and maybe even knew that was wrong, he loved Sekai and felt jealous about her relationship with his brother (that's probably how Maya feels too).
sev "It’s raining outside. "
sev "You are watching the water droplets dance down the window as a series of noises assault you from both sides."
sev "On your left, the sound of a stereo’s static screaming- no. Singing to your senses."
sev "Ssssssssssssssssssssss~"
sev "To your right, the repeated clacking of a headboard as it slams against the wall, chipping away at soft white paint you helped spread yourself."
sev "You did it together."
sev "But it is not your headboard that clack-clacks today. It is the headboard of someone else. "
sev "Someone else taking the one thing you love as you are forced to sit there and pretend you don’t know it."
sev "Is it easy playing tricks on yourself?"
sev "Were you ever able to laugh?"
sev "Can you laugh today?"
sev "Or do you still pretend it never rains at all?"
That some fucked up shit right there
But yes, after this scene, it's probably true that Sensei had some level of love toward Sekai despite how much manipulation there might be. I think this part of memory even took place AFTER Sensei started having sex with Sekai, suggested by But it is not your headboard that clack-clacks today (so sometimes it is yours that clacks?).
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It's the exact moment he realizes that what he has with Sekai isn't special to her. It's just sex. She was using him.
It's the moment he starts to view sex partners as verbal onaholes.
It's the moment he transforms from prey to predator, because the only way to numb the pain he's feeling is to feel nothing at all.
The way he describes the memories of Sekai that he does have illustrates that he still has a somewhat idealized vision of her from their time together. The way he remembers the smell of her hair when Ami uses the same kind of shampoo, for example, drives this home. But this recontextualizes all of that. It's bittersweet for him, because it was all in his head. She never loved him, she just used him.
Haven't been able to start Osako's last event because I keep getting the message "I don't think I should visit Maki right now..." every time I try to visit the porn shop. I've finished every other event in the game and Osako is at 20 affection, I'm pretty sure I've met every requirement yet I still can't visit the shop any day of the week
Pretty sure you must be missing Maki's final event. Invite her over on a Sunday.Haven't been able to start Osako's last event because I keep getting the message "I don't think I should visit Maki right now..." every time I try to visit the porn shop. I've finished every other event in the game and Osako is at 20 affection, I'm pretty sure I've met every requirement yet I still can't visit the shop any day of the week
Anyone else watched Red vs Blue, seasons 9 and 10? Cause as I'm playing the beginning, I'm picking up major Carolina or CT vibes from Yumi.