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If true love was all that was necessary, Niki would be there a million years ago. Her love is so true it lasts through the cheater flag affection point wipe.
Heaven for Human Blood Ami is, like, the opposite of a source I'd trust. Perhaps disregarding her words entirely would be too far, but if I had to choose who to believe between her and Maya, it wouldn't be her.
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Hey just imagine this scene:
Ayane: ... I just realized you tried to get me killed! Yelling about pregnancy outside Ami's window.
Maya: who said anything about ami killing you, she does worse. And yes I got annoyed with you, I really wasn't expecting you to remember it anyway.
Good scene idea. But no, I'm not willing to throw away the ami kills you to get to the roof just yet. But I am putting up on the shelf of improbable but possible .
This is sadly the one I'm going with now... not enough stabby stabby though but can be summed up in two posts I made earlier
If true it narrows the current girls to be next down to possibly futaba, Makoto, or noriko they still refuse to accept the worst parts of him fully like Ayane seemed resigned to but still love him and are dealing with it atmnotice them?
i meant survive them, to get to the roof itself and not vanish
just noticing the reset could be a lot of things, they are just aware, they moved a little bit closer to loving him but not actually loving him yet, learning to accept a dark awful part of sensei and choosing to keep interacting with him and not hating him for it. (which both yumi and tsuneyo did and what makoto is currently doing) all of these are steps to this form of 'love' in all its toxicity and beauty
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i still dont like this one... not enough stabbing damn it, will admit my problem with it is more a personal issue than a flaw in it
and the horrible twisted reason why sensei isn't reset and makes it to the roof is .... he fully accepted and loves the worst parts of himself and when that level of narcissistic love gets shattered, he resets, he is regularly called a narcissist too and this explains why some sensei's made it through a few resets according to maya
considering the name of the game too
it fits disturbingly well...
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There's also how Baby Finches Maya (who is implied to be how Maya was before the resets) apparently was into the god of wires stuff:
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Meanwhile, we know Maya is still into birds (literally roleplays as a bird person in DnD) and sex, but the Maya we know seems to pretend she never heard anything about a wire related god:
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So, even if Maya's memories are real, it doesn't mean she's honest about them. Same could be said for the possibly false memories she might have.
Also, Maya not recognizing the MM note, which she claims it seems like something she'd write, seems awfully suspicious:
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TLDR; Chika might be first to die 
I love that psycho/yandere Ami is confirmed now. I also like how many theories that people have had before are slowly being confirmed, and kind of have my own long shot theory about Ami.
Since she's killed before, ("butchered" definitely means killed in this context) then the top 3 candidates for Ami to go after would be Chika, Ayane, and Maya, in that order. I figured Ayane would be number one months ago when i assumed correctly that Ami was a yandere, because of Ayane's obnoxious love for Akira, the lost child, and how Ami reacted to finding out that Ayane knew of the true relationship between Ami and her uncle, but .31 makes me think that Chika might be first. That's definitely how things seem to be lining up. There's already a high chance that Chika will end up in the new apartment complex with Akira, either a few doors down like Touka mentioned, or maybe his exact unit. But now there's the likelihood that she'll end up working at the maid cafe that he frequents regularly, putting her in close proximity with Akira on a regular basis. I think it might be plausible that Ami and Chika might have a confrontation at the maid cafe while both trying to cater to Akira and Ami goes overboard, resulting in Chika quitting on the spot out of anger and not being able to work with Ami. (It's a long shot I know, but I feel like it's plausible.) Chika has already spoken of how she thinks that Ami loves her uncle a little too much multiple times, and due to Ami's rebuttals and other statements regarding it and around the time that Chika has spoken out, has left Chika in a less than stellar moods on occasion, as we saw in this update as well. I feel like these multiple occurrences and verbal clashes have been building up to something, and I believe Chika's soon to be employment at the maid cafe will exasperate things further. If Chika quits on the spot like I mentioned earlier, that of course wouldn't sit right with Akira, and he may demand Ami apologize for her actions at the cafe, not only because he thinks she's gone too far, but because it would put Chika and Chinami's well being in jeopardy. That might be the final bit needed to make them move into the new complex since Chika would be out of a job and have no way of keeping Chinami safe and a roof over their heads.
With all of that said, I can't think of a good way of Ami finding out that Chika's staying there, but her finding out coupled with her employment (proceeded by her unemployment) at the maid cafe would bring her to believe that Chika is purposely placing herself in places to be close to Akira. Finding out about the secret apartment along with this would lead her to speculate that either her uncle and Chika are secretly seeing each other, or that Chika's plotting exactly that. Since Ami has already heard of the resets from Makoto this reset and has shown signs of mentally/metaphysically cracking, I believe this Chika situation would be the fuse igniting that pushes Ami over the edge and get her to go after Chika.
That's not even mentioning that if she finds out about the secret apartment and Chika being there once she is, she'll more than likely find out in person at the complex by following Akira there (thought of a way for her to find out about the apartment that makes sense), leading her to also possibly finding out that Chinami sees him as a father figure and always calls him papa, making her believe that Chika is her lover replacement, and Chinami is her daughter figure replacement. Remember, she just went on an exposition about how if she's apart of Sensei, the same way organs are, that he could replace her just as he would an organ if it wasn't of use to him anymore/stopped working as intended/wasn't what he wanted anymore (whichever way she worked it), and asked if he'd replace her if that were the case. Although a long shot, that all would directly correlate with a lot of what we just saw this update.
Any thoughts?
I love that psycho/yandere Ami is confirmed now. I also like how many theories that people have had before are slowly being confirmed, and kind of have my own long shot theory about Ami.
Since she's killed before, ("butchered" definitely means killed in this context) then the top 3 candidates for Ami to go after would be Chika, Ayane, and Maya, in that order. I figured Ayane would be number one months ago when i assumed correctly that Ami was a yandere, because of Ayane's obnoxious love for Akira, the lost child, and how Ami reacted to finding out that Ayane knew of the true relationship between Ami and her uncle, but .31 makes me think that Chika might be first. That's definitely how things seem to be lining up. There's already a high chance that Chika will end up in the new apartment complex with Akira, either a few doors down like Touka mentioned, or maybe his exact unit. But now there's the likelihood that she'll end up working at the maid cafe that he frequents regularly, putting her in close proximity with Akira on a regular basis. I think it might be plausible that Ami and Chika might have a confrontation at the maid cafe while both trying to cater to Akira and Ami goes overboard, resulting in Chika quitting on the spot out of anger and not being able to work with Ami. (It's a long shot I know, but I feel like it's plausible.) Chika has already spoken of how she thinks that Ami loves her uncle a little too much multiple times, and due to Ami's rebuttals and other statements regarding it and around the time that Chika has spoken out, has left Chika in a less than stellar moods on occasion, as we saw in this update as well. I feel like these multiple occurrences and verbal clashes have been building up to something, and I believe Chika's soon to be employment at the maid cafe will exasperate things further. If Chika quits on the spot like I mentioned earlier, that of course wouldn't sit right with Akira, and he may demand Ami apologize for her actions at the cafe, not only because he thinks she's gone too far, but because it would put Chika and Chinami's well being in jeopardy. That might be the final bit needed to make them move into the new complex since Chika would be out of a job and have no way of keeping Chinami safe and a roof over their heads.
With all of that said, I can't think of a good way of Ami finding out that Chika's staying there, but her finding out coupled with her employment (proceeded by her unemployment) at the maid cafe would bring her to believe that Chika is purposely placing herself in places to be close to Akira. Finding out about the secret apartment along with this would lead her to speculate that either her uncle and Chika are secretly seeing each other, or that Chika's plotting exactly that. Since Ami has already heard of the resets from Makoto this reset and has shown signs of mentally/metaphysically cracking, I believe this Chika situation would be the fuse igniting that pushes Ami over the edge and get her to go after Chika.
That's not even mentioning that if she finds out about the secret apartment and Chika being there once she is, she'll more than likely find out in person at the complex by following Akira there (thought of a way for her to find out about the apartment that makes sense), leading her to also possibly finding out that Chinami sees him as a father figure and always calls him papa, making her believe that Chika is her lover replacement, and Chinami is her daughter figure replacement. Remember, she just went on an exposition about how if she's apart of Sensei, the same way organs are, that he could replace her just as he would an organ if it wasn't of use to him anymore/stopped working as intended/wasn't what he wanted anymore (whichever way she worked it), and asked if he'd replace her if that were the case. Although a long shot, that all would directly correlate with a lot of what we just saw this update.
Any thoughts?
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I agree with Makoto since she's already temporary in the know of the resets (will have to see what happens when time is reset again) and Noriko. Last update Noriko saw Sensei at his worst (or nearly at his worst) and from how she basically told him to have his shit together next time they see each other means that she doesn't plan to go anywhere. Futaba however, I'm not so sure. She loves him of course, and know about the other girls, but hasn't really excepted him at his worst because she doesn't know and hasn't seen it to that extent. But based on what you've said, I would think that Niki might also end up there next. She knows that he sleeps around and knows that he's done horrible things, and although she doesn't know the specifics, she still accepted him regardless.
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Interesting thought, though that was hard to follow simply cause you need to break your text up into more paragraphs. It's not just a stylistic choice, paragraph breaks aid the mind in processing data into chunks, no breaks and you overflow the buffer, degrading the data transfer. I had to retread your biggest block several times.TLDR; Chika might be first to die
I love that psycho/yandere Ami is confirmed now. I also like how many theories that people have had before are slowly being confirmed, and kind of have my own long shot theory about Ami.
Since she's killed before, ("butchered" definitely means killed in this context) then the top 3 candidates for Ami to go after would be Chika, Ayane, and Maya, in that order. I figured Ayane would be number one months ago when i assumed correctly that Ami was a yandere, because of Ayane's obnoxious love for Akira, the lost child, and how Ami reacted to finding out that Ayane knew of the true relationship between Ami and her uncle, but .31 makes me think that Chika might be first. That's definitely how things seem to be lining up. There's already a high chance that Chika will end up in the new apartment complex with Akira, either a few doors down like Touka mentioned, or maybe his exact unit. But now there's the likelihood that she'll end up working at the maid cafe that he frequents regularly, putting her in close proximity with Akira on a regular basis. I think it might be plausible that Ami and Chika might have a confrontation at the maid cafe while both trying to cater to Akira and Ami goes overboard, resulting in Chika quitting on the spot out of anger and not being able to work with Ami. (It's a long shot I know, but I feel like it's plausible.) Chika has already spoken of how she thinks that Ami loves her uncle a little too much multiple times, and due to Ami's rebuttals and other statements regarding it and around the time that Chika has spoken out, has left Chika in a less than stellar moods on occasion, as we saw in this update as well. I feel like these multiple occurrences and verbal clashes have been building up to something, and I believe Chika's soon to be employment at the maid cafe will exasperate things further. If Chika quits on the spot like I mentioned earlier, that of course wouldn't sit right with Akira, and he may demand Ami apologize for her actions at the cafe, not only because he thinks she's gone too far, but because it would put Chika and Chinami's well being in jeopardy. That might be the final bit needed to make them move into the new complex since Chika would be out of a job and have no way of keeping Chinami safe and a roof over their heads.
With all of that said, I can't think of a good way of Ami finding out that Chika's staying there, but her finding out coupled with her employment (proceeded by her unemployment) at the maid cafe would bring her to believe that Chika is purposely placing herself in places to be close to Akira. Finding out about the secret apartment along with this would lead her to speculate that either her uncle and Chika are secretly seeing each other, or that Chika's plotting exactly that. Since Ami has already heard of the resets from Makoto this reset and has shown signs of mentally/metaphysically cracking, I believe this Chika situation would be the fuse igniting that pushes Ami over the edge and get her to go after Chika.
That's not even mentioning that if she finds out about the secret apartment and Chika being there once she is, she'll more than likely find out in person at the complex by following Akira there (thought of a way for her to find out about the apartment that makes sense), leading her to also possibly finding out that Chinami sees him as a father figure and always calls him papa, making her believe that Chika is her lover replacement, and Chinami is her daughter figure replacement. Remember, she just went on an exposition about how if she's apart of Sensei, the same way organs are, that he could replace her just as he would an organ if it wasn't of use to him anymore/stopped working as intended/wasn't what he wanted anymore (whichever way she worked it), and asked if he'd replace her if that were the case. Although a long shot, that all would directly correlate with a lot of what we just saw this update.
Any thoughts?
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There's a few plot holes in that scene, tbh.
Pregnancy or jealousy isn't what turns "Real Ami" into Psycho Ami. It's knowing about the resets that starts to change her into becoming Psycho Ami, according to Maya.
There's also reason to believe Psycho Ami can't survive through resets and just disappears like the rest, otherwise she would likely always be Psycho Ami instead of becoming Psycho Ami if certain conditions are met.
In otherwords: saying anything around an Ami that's disappearing shouldn't really matter. Maya should know this, and Ayane being pregnant shouldn't really matter until Ami had become Psycho Ami.
Not to mention, Ayane has already gotten to the rooftop more than once, and Psycho Ami hasn't been a notable problem until, well, now.
I must have completely overlooked this, my bad.notice them?
i meant survive them, to get to the roof itself and not vanish
just noticing the reset could be a lot of things, they are just aware, they moved a little bit closer to loving him but not actually loving him yet, learning to accept a dark awful part of sensei and choosing to keep interacting with him and not hating him for it. (which both yumi and tsuneyo did and what makoto is currently doing) all of these are steps to this form of 'love' in all its toxicity and beauty
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i still dont like this one... not enough stabbing damn it, will admit my problem with it is more a personal issue than a flaw in it
and the horrible twisted reason why sensei isn't reset and makes it to the roof is .... he fully accepted and loves the worst parts of himself and when that level of narcissistic love gets shattered, he resets, he is regularly called a narcissist too and this explains why some sensei's made it through a few resets according to maya
considering the name of the game too
it fits disturbingly well...
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Btw, what's the "dark awful part" that Ayane accepted before getting to the roof?
I definitely think accepting Sensei is more likely than Ami killing them.
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A thing i would like to add though is, that Ami might have made it this time, or sometime else.
In the Akira apartment scene, the pre apocalypse get together with Tsuneyo and Yumi, they were all TPosed, while in the wake Maya up scene Ami just stands there in a corner facing away, nude, but not TPosed.
So either it's something different, or Ami pretended to be, in what ever state people go during those times.
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I can definitely see Chika being the first to go, and I get what you're saying, that it could easily look like Sensei is creating a life with Chika that doesn't involve Ami, behind Ami's back.TLDR; Chika might be first to die
I love that psycho/yandere Ami is confirmed now. I also like how many theories that people have had before are slowly being confirmed, and kind of have my own long shot theory about Ami.
Since she's killed before, ("butchered" definitely means killed in this context) then the top 3 candidates for Ami to go after would be Chika, Ayane, and Maya, in that order. I figured Ayane would be number one months ago when i assumed correctly that Ami was a yandere, because of Ayane's obnoxious love for Akira, the lost child, and how Ami reacted to finding out that Ayane knew of the true relationship between Ami and her uncle, but .31 makes me think that Chika might be first. That's definitely how things seem to be lining up. There's already a high chance that Chika will end up in the new apartment complex with Akira, either a few doors down like Touka mentioned, or maybe his exact unit. But now there's the likelihood that she'll end up working at the maid cafe that he frequents regularly, putting her in close proximity with Akira on a regular basis. I think it might be plausible that Ami and Chika might have a confrontation at the maid cafe while both trying to cater to Akira and Ami goes overboard, resulting in Chika quitting on the spot out of anger and not being able to work with Ami. (It's a long shot I know, but I feel like it's plausible.) Chika has already spoken of how she thinks that Ami loves her uncle a little too much multiple times, and due to Ami's rebuttals and other statements regarding it and around the time that Chika has spoken out, has left Chika in a less than stellar moods on occasion, as we saw in this update as well. I feel like these multiple occurrences and verbal clashes have been building up to something, and I believe Chika's soon to be employment at the maid cafe will exasperate things further. If Chika quits on the spot like I mentioned earlier, that of course wouldn't sit right with Akira, and he may demand Ami apologize for her actions at the cafe, not only because he thinks she's gone too far, but because it would put Chika and Chinami's well being in jeopardy. That might be the final bit needed to make them move into the new complex since Chika would be out of a job and have no way of keeping Chinami safe and a roof over their heads.
With all of that said, I can't think of a good way of Ami finding out that Chika's staying there, but her finding out coupled with her employment (proceeded by her unemployment) at the maid cafe would bring her to believe that Chika is purposely placing herself in places to be close to Akira. Finding out about the secret apartment along with this would lead her to speculate that either her uncle and Chika are secretly seeing each other, or that Chika's plotting exactly that. Since Ami has already heard of the resets from Makoto this reset and has shown signs of mentally/metaphysically cracking, I believe this Chika situation would be the fuse igniting that pushes Ami over the edge and get her to go after Chika.
That's not even mentioning that if she finds out about the secret apartment and Chika being there once she is, she'll more than likely find out in person at the complex by following Akira there (thought of a way for her to find out about the apartment that makes sense), leading her to also possibly finding out that Chinami sees him as a father figure and always calls him papa, making her believe that Chika is her lover replacement, and Chinami is her daughter figure replacement. Remember, she just went on an exposition about how if she's apart of Sensei, the same way organs are, that he could replace her just as he would an organ if it wasn't of use to him anymore/stopped working as intended/wasn't what he wanted anymore (whichever way she worked it), and asked if he'd replace her if that were the case. Although a long shot, that all would directly correlate with a lot of what we just saw this update.
Any thoughts?
Dating Chika, bonding with Chinami, the New home right near Sensei's secret apartment, etc, all things that could look like Sensei is ditching Ami for a new family. Being abandoned seems to be Ami's greatest fear, so it's something Psycho Ami could easily act upon. Removing Chika would be the logical option.
I also think Chika is someone that makes most of the other girls insecure without even meaning to. She's the oldest, and acts more "mature" as well as has a more "mature" body, etc. Things that I can see Psycho Ami feeling threatened by.
Chika is also one of the few girls who could actually pose a threat physically. Her, Yumi, Tsuneyo, Touka, Ayane, and maybe Noriko are the most physically dangerous of the class (unless Uta has a bow, then I'd add her). So, I'd probably take them out asap. Still, Chika being the most notably likely to take Sensei away from Ami would simply put her at the top of the list.
Then again getting rid of Yumi would be the easiest to get away with. The class delinquent disappearing would also remove an ally that could benefit Chika for when Psycho Ami kills her, not to mention, the smartest in class aka Nodoka probably wouldn't even care if Yumi disappeared. So, perhaps the first to go is Yumi, but Chika right afterwards. Albeit, I don't know if Psycho Ami would think that far ahead.
I also don't know how powerful Psycho Ami actually is, so, killing Chika or maybe anyone could just be a walk in a park, and all that's needed is some motivation.
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At least two possible way's i see there.
I just recently looked into how png's are structured because of the DRM stuff.
So:
PNG's and i think KK cards are png files, are structured inside like little containers, called chunks.
They have a type, some info, size, checksum and whatnot, and ofcourse data inside them.
Must chunks are image data, others are general discription like resolution and so on.
There are special chunks, i think it was private/custom chunks?, something like that, that you can define yourself (thats the drm stuff btw).
So,
A) Illusion puts the "Girls" Data into a selfcreated custom chunk, or
B) They could put the Data behind the last, the end chunk.
A normal Image reader will omit custom chunks, and maybe everything behind the end chunk.
I'm not so sure about putting it at the end, if it might break something.
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Ami seems to vanish, and Maya has mentioned seeing her disappear before, but something that looks like her remains.
You can sometimes see it crawling around/hiding during the resets, since "There is Nothing". I think it's just another form of Mangled/Happy/Memory Ami, based off how it seemed to turn into it when Maya wasn't waking up.
Overall: I'm not entirely sure what's going on there, but it's nothing new.
T posing on the other hand seems new, at least during a reset.
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I do know there's a scene with Ami disappearing during either the first or second reset of chapter 1, she's naked and is on Akira in bed and she's begging for help and saying something about her insides being hot or getting chewed up or something, she progressively ...breaks? apart and then disappears all together. That's what i figure disappearing is and it matches what Maya described to a degree.
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If you look around afterwards, you can also see a naked body, that I think is Ami's:
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I'm thinking that's what becomes the Mangled/Happy/Memory Ami that tends to show up. Albeit could be wrong.
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First of all, sorry for this masive bunch of photos but i wanted to discuss about this (since i dont saw a lot of coments xd)
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I have no idea, but maybe it's the Shapeshifter? She seems to show up a bit, cares in a different way, won't sleep with you, and wears blue.
She also seems to be trying to help and earn your trust throughout the game. The desperation at the end seems to come from losing connection as the words before it start becoming gibberish.
There's also how the Narrator and The Shapeshifter both mention "the rules":
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Overall: I'm not sure. Probably need to replay the game. Been a bit.
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ah that scene is not an attempt to make a well developed one its 3 lines, it was just a scenario i would love to hear and read. but dude people were predicting psycho ami before ayane's 2nd roof top appearance based on notable personality traits and various scenes despite the amount of gas lighting some people did to try and shut it down.
ayanes acceptance
ayane's kirin event and how he responded to it, his complete rejection of the very things she wants most 'baby and family', fucking around with everyone, probably more but it doesnt have to be a specific event that causes it. its also less seeing his darker parts than acknowledging them and deciding it doesnt matter, she decided to love him even if he decided to one day go around murdering people for sport. she lost her cut-off limit for acceptable healthy boundaries where a 'normal' person would go "nope you are not worth it" I think she would probably put up with anything at this point. she has become obsessively codependent on him. She has become this in a way the other girls have not yet but there are a few that are disturbingly close right now, such as noriko (she still has a clear independent streak no matter how much she says she would destroy and remake herself for him), makoto (still thinks she can 'win' him or change him but she seems close to just giving in), futaba (has a couple things, she thinks if she can fix herself enough it might change him, but her self esteem is so low the moment it crashes and burns I can see her giving in and thinking 'this is the best i will ever get' and just giving into anything)
absolute unconditional love is the most toxic form of love you can get, its also heavily romanticized and seen as beautiful, generally in these cases though the love is mutual and not one sided.
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I feel like a dipshit cause i'm about to ask something i get sick of seeing parachuters ask but i'm replaying the game and i just want to be 100% sure. The traps in the game, i remember the rules for good homie and more recently for yumiknows but i know there's a trap for seeing something you can't have seen without seeing something else first, what was it? Is it just those 3? Going to pump lust up well beforehand so not concerned about missing lust events.
Edit: actually, i'm using the guide mod, does anyone know if it covers all those traps with warnings?
Edit: actually, i'm using the guide mod, does anyone know if it covers all those traps with warnings?
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i thought it was maya's when the scene ended i thought we got a clear look at the back of her head, though that is just probably me,
butt totally looks like maya's though and not ami's...
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there is also the karin trap that has not even begun to play out yet...always lie to karin