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Same, if scene have close to zero lore info and consists only of "ahh, yes, coming" kind of stuff then it's a skip material.I'm hoping for more black screens actually, sex scenes are boring to read.
Absolutely agreeWe either still in "Not enough reliable information" phase or there is something interesting here.
I think under this context the rope is highly likely to be Sensei, not just because the first two gods seemingly have the most influences on his actions and how Kumon-mi runs itself, but also in the same scene and in the later development:For unknown reason I started to actualy read Yasu's monologues.
So why don't we discuss our unholy trinity once more?
We either still in "Not enough reliable information" phase or there is something interesting here. Trichotomy Callous/Calm/Concerned does not match Everything/Nothing/Rope well, but let Everything/Nothing be on Yasu's perception for now. The point here is that two gods are at war and third is keeping neutralty (common trope, isn't it?)
1) It is interesting because we haven't been given reliable discriminator for who fights for whom yet. Anyway, there is some ideato rely on angels/rabbits color, because why not. With that assumtion, sides of war can be represented by Sekai and Hope.
Yasu god sounds more Sekaish than Hopeish (if we think about them as about different gods, obviously). It also explains rabbits and angels colors mismatch, which is a problem of "default" theory: there is no mismatch, both of them are on "Dark side". I do not like this conclusion, it contradicts the idea that linkage between Hope and Sensei is the reason Yasu calls him her god's favorite.
As an alternative, Sekai can be in opposition to Yasu's god. It does not sounds very natural, but a) we know almost nothing about Sekai's backstory b) from last events, Sekai might be "not callous" more than "Lust Eater".
2) "Default" Unholy Trinity theory seems a bit broken. Especialy in the part when order is important.
We have Callous/Calm/Concerned. We also know it is same trichotomy as "The Lust Eater" / "The Wire God" / "The Dark".
Next, the important part, we assume they are Hope (Nozomu)/Wire god/Pareidolia.
DeSkel mentioned (AFAIR) recently, that "The Dark" does not fit Pareidolia well. The more i think about it, the more I question miself "how do we know that pareidolia is Concerned god"? For all I know, he might be Callous god as well.
Now we also have Everything/Nothing/Rope trichotomy. War between Callous and Calm is strange, and how Callous could be everything? With (1) it sounds more like not understanding what is goind on, than some misinterpritations
Sidenote: If Callous/Calm/Concerned in that order survives, we might suprisingly find that Ami is callous, Maya is calm and Ayane is concerned. It sounds less insane after "Flowerchild"
3) This is not about "default" theories and more about my own thoughts. Initialy i linked existance of Kumon-me to agony of dying god, but now that god is not just dying, but also fights in the war. That not sounds like an agony. If there is a war, it opens some room for Sensei as Faust, who obliged to choose a god to help him win a bet or smth like that. Simple and explains amount of divine interventions in his live
PS by "default" i name theories that I think are common within community. If they aren't, they aren't
PPS Yasu alsmost identified her god with rope in that event. And Sekai with her god. Interesting, isn't it?
I'd rather disagreeI think under this context the rope is highly likely to be Sensei, not just because the first two gods seemingly have the most influences on his actions and how Kumon-mi runs itself, but also in the same scene and in the later development:
Well, my point is that term "the third god" is unncecessary concept which leads us to paradox sooner or later. It is just misleading (or at least might be). I'm going to review all related events soon (including Miku's "One. Two. Three.", lol) to be surePutting who are the first two gods and what belongs to them aside, I believe trying to learn more about the third god/Concerned/(temp)Pareidolia via Yasu's dialogue will likely be futile because there is a chance that she was only told by her god that there are three gods, but nothing more about the third one on the specifics.
Welcome to Maya's worldFinally an unrelated thought about this event is that Yasu was hilariously annoyed/frustrated this time when conversing with Sensei here, it's like "haven't you been listening, you unruly child!"
Interesting take...I assume Nothing as the second god also because the event There is Nothing is its first intro, but this is very much me randomly pointing at shadows thinking there were connections everywhere , as baseless as ever.PS cannot find were exactly you referenced that yasu has only seen two moons, but for me it sounds more natural to be unable to see "Nothing". And, within this concept, nothing can be Pareidolia anyways
Wow, nice catch. Even if it is overthinkingI assume Nothing as the second god also because the event There is Nothing is its first intro
Yep, I remember that, just lost place when you mentioned it . So nevermindbtw the two moon things I mentioned is Yasu's comment on Nodoka'shorriblehorror storytelling in Cicadian Rhythm; that part is gated and cannot be reviewed in replay (goddamnit Selly boy STOP!). I can't have it play with URM either (or I don't know how) so here is a save that starts from where renpy cuts short.
It's never consistent.Whom does narrator adress as "you" from the begining of game? It is just a feeling, but isn't he talking to Sekai right now? It is not obliged to be breaking of fourth wall, it could be inner monologue all the way long
Kind of long response revolving around Yasu's 'Frankincense & Myrrh':For unknown reason I started to actualy read Yasu's monologues.
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So why don't we discuss our unholy trinity once more?
We either still in "Not enough reliable information" phase or there is something interesting here. Trichotomy Callous/Calm/Concerned does not match Everything/Nothing/Rope well, but let Everything/Nothing be on Yasu's perception for now. The point here is that two gods are at war and third is keeping neutralty (common trope, isn't it?)
1) It is interesting because we haven't been given reliable discriminator for who fights for whom yet. Anyway, there is some ideato rely on angels/rabbits color, because why not. With that assumtion, sides of war can be represented by Sekai and Hope.
Yasu god sounds more Sekaish than Hopeish (if we think about them as about different gods, obviously). It also explains rabbits and angels colors mismatch, which is a problem of "default" theory: there is no mismatch, both of them are on "Dark side". I do not like this conclusion, it contradicts the idea that linkage between Hope and Sensei is the reason Yasu calls him her god's favorite.
As an alternative, Sekai can be in opposition to Yasu's god. It does not sounds very natural, but a) we know almost nothing about Sekai's backstory b) from last events, Sekai might be "not callous" more than "Lust Eater".
2) "Default" Unholy Trinity theory seems a bit broken. Especialy in the part when order is important.
We have Callous/Calm/Concerned. We also know it is same trichotomy as "The Lust Eater" / "The Wire God" / "The Dark".
Next, the important part, we assume they are Hope (Nozomu)/Wire god/Pareidolia.
DeSkel mentioned (AFAIR) recently, that "The Dark" does not fit Pareidolia well. The more i think about it, the more I question miself "how do we know that pareidolia is Concerned god"? For all I know, he might be Callous god as well.
Now we also have Everything/Nothing/Rope trichotomy. War between Callous and Calm is strange, and how Callous could be everything? With (1) it sounds more like not understanding what is goind on, than some misinterpritations
Sidenote: If Callous/Calm/Concerned in that order survives, we might suprisingly find that Ami is callous, Maya is calm and Ayane is concerned. It sounds less insane after "Flowerchild"
3) This is not about "default" theories and more about my own thoughts. Initialy i linked existance of Kumon-me to agony of dying god, but now that god is not just dying, but also fights in the war. That not sounds like an agony. If there is a war, it opens some room for Sensei as Faust, who obliged to choose a god to help him win a bet or smth like that. Simple and explains amount of divine interventions in his live
PS by "default" i name theories that I think are common within community. If they aren't, they aren't
PPS Yasu alsmost identified her god with rope in that event. And Sekai with her god. Interesting, isn't it?
Thank you, I needed this <3Kind of long response revolving around Yasu's 'Frankincense & Myrrh':
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I could probably talk about this shit for days, but to be honest, everything could change with a single update, just by something new being revealed or something old being revealed to be a lie or false truth. Unfortunately, it's been implied that something has been purposely misleading the player/theorists:And who knows who is lying:You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.Even this Italic Narrator who seems to actually be The Shapeshifter could be lying.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
My theory on Yasu is that she's basically being used and manipulated by her god and this will break her pretty badly if/when she finds out. It's one thing to learn your god isn't real, it would be quite another to learn they are real but have been lying to you the whole time. Poor girl thinks she is an angel in training when she is actually just a pawn.Kind of long response revolving around Yasu's 'Frankincense & Myrrh':
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I could probably talk about this shit for days, but to be honest, everything could change with a single update, just by something new being revealed or something old being revealed to be a lie or false truth. Unfortunately, it's been implied that something has been purposely misleading the player/theorists:And who knows who is lying:You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.Even this Italic Narrator who seems to actually be The Shapeshifter could be lying.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
But we can challenge this theory now. At least it looks like thatMuch as I enjoy hypothesizing, I don't partake for the reason DeSkel just mentioned: We lack concrete information. It seems generally accepted that the god-trinity of Callous/Calm/Concerned are the same beings as Hope/Wires/Pareidolia because it survives Occam's Razor, but honestly we don't even know THAT for certain.