Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

5A 61 68 79 6E 68 79 6B · Nov 3, 2023

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Angiboat · Nov 3, 2023

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Already? I thought we weren't getting shit until January.
Man those haircuts are weird.

crustlord12 · Nov 3, 2023

5A 61 68 79 6E 68 79 6B said:
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I don't know if I blacked out and missed a bunch of stuff, but who are these characters and what's their relevance?

Vizer007 · Nov 3, 2023

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Where are they from? Was there a game or something?

BlackDays · Nov 3, 2023

Looking at some of the new pictures delivered by the sauce heroes, some things that caught my attention.

I think it will take me some time, to get used to espacially Rin's new appearence.
Chika doesn't seem to have that impact on me, but Rin..., it feels weird.

Interesting is, that some girls now seem to have those... neck bands?, or what would they be called?
Some of them seem to also have new necklaces.

Espacially this one on Rin
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2023/11/3079404_SPOILER_CharaStudio-2023-11-02-12-04-28-Render.png
I don't think that's an eight (8).
Given that the new chapter (update .36), is the infinite spring, i think this could also be an infinity sign ∞ (aka mobius band).

5A 61 68 79 6E 68 79 6B · Nov 3, 2023

crustlord12 Vizer007
It's kind of like a Sel game that didn't come out. At 0.35 the part appears in delirium

I'm not sure about the back hairstyle yet, but there are no other angles yet — it's difficult

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DeSkel15 · Nov 3, 2023

crustlord12 said:
I don't know if I blacked out and missed a bunch of stuff, but who are these characters and what's their relevance?

Vizer007 said:
Where are they from? Was there a game or something?

Sel seems to have a few prequels to Lessons in Love that were never actually finished.

After last update though, in the latest Happy Event 'Rain King', it seems implied that even those unfinished games and characters are tied into Lessons in Love:

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Presumably they are all related through something like the Upside Down House, like Sensei's mother, Saki, but it's possible they are just cameos. Although, that's what most thought about Saki and it's rather clear it's more than that, in her case.

Edit: In Retrospect, there being 3 games created by Sel, and 3 numbers mentioned by Yasu:

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Could imply the games represent worlds. Saki and her characters could be 22, and since LiL seems to be 23, that would probably mean Kanon and the rest are from 24. Perhaps LiL is actually the middle of a trilogy?

Yasu's words continue to haunt me:

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fdsasdf_p · Nov 3, 2023

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UPD.

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I was just about to ask if anyone knows the origin of Kanon (literally about to hit POST REPLY), assuming she's another parody version of an actual cast just like Tsurumi; then all these girls all come out at the same time out of literal thin air and get me confused unga bunga again.

Going to assume for now that these are solely just either design idea prototypes of some girls, or extremely inside jokes/references only Sel himself gets

Duskreyn · Nov 3, 2023

That was a little game that was born a few months after the creation of LiL, when he created his subscribestar, but Selebus never finished it. go here, for more context. https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-v0-35-0-selebus.48158/post-3839816 ----->

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akselx · Nov 3, 2023

Duskreyn said:
That was a little game that was born a few months after the creation of LiL, when he created his subscribestar, but Selebus never finished it. go here, for more context. https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-v0-35-0-selebus.48158/post-3839816 ----->
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It seems like Sellebus really wanted to create his own cinematic universe with overarching narrative and plot that eventually ties everything together, but cut corners along the way, lol. Ambitious.

Bingoogus · Nov 3, 2023

akselx said:
It seems like Sellebus really wanted to create his own cinematic universe with overarching narrative and plot that eventually ties everything together, but cut corners along the way, lol. Ambitious.

So he wanted MCU but ended up going the DCU route?

DeSkel15 · Nov 3, 2023

Duskreyn said:
That was a little game that was born a few months after the creation of LiL, when he created his subscribestar, but Selebus never finished it. go here, for more context. https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-v0-35-0-selebus.48158/post-3839816 ----->
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So, LiL really is in the middle of Sel's games.. interesting. Considering Saki was treated as a parent to LiL's MC, with presumably NiB's MC being the father, perhaps Kanon and her brother are Sensei's kids, since her brother seemed to be the next in line to be a MC, in GOTD.

Their presumably brown hair also fits Sensei's and the Shapeshifter's in my opinion, and if she's Sensei's daughter through Ayane, I wonder who Kanon's mother is? She has Noriko's hair style, but her eyes don't seem to match anyone's quite right as far as I can tell:

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Probably won't ever matter much, but I'm definitely intrigued. Also fits what Nao seemed to imply was Sensei's fate:

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The offspring in this case, perhaps being Kanon and her brother. Maybe also, the Shapeshifter.

ElukiaTV · Nov 3, 2023

Considering how many clones LiL got... the LCU is already done. XD

BlackDays · Nov 3, 2023

Maybe i can shed some new light on this whole (what could we call it?), i guess i'm going with Lessons in Love Unified Lore Universe. LILULU or LULU? ^^
Don't take this all too seriously though.

IIRC Sel like's David Lynch.
Lynch was the creator (besides other media i guess) of the 1984's movie "Dune", based on Frank Herberts Dune (Universe).
Now, some of you might know, but for those who don't, Dune, every iteration of it that was released as movies until now (Org. Dune 1984, Dune TV series ~2000/ 6 parts, recent new movie and it's sequels), are part of a rather large story, where the "Dune" part is in the middle. And Dune makes just about a 1/10th of the whole story (If we include Herbert's son, who continued the story).

What i want to get to is, maybe Sel is trying the same thing.
Creating a whole universe (that's in... erm coherent) where Lil is taking place in.

He could be using his prior game attempts as a lore backup, while, like with Dune, they won't have a real impact on Lil, besides stage setting.

The only exception i see yet, is the "Upside Down house". The "Upside Down House" might be something that pierces through the whole story/lore universe.

fdsasdf_p · Nov 3, 2023

Shouldn't Chinami also be on the list of girls with new designs/outfits next to her sister if the next update really is going to be starting in Ayaneverse?

Chinami should also be rid of a reason to keep her bleach blonde hair just like Chika if the cause of it is going to be rewritten from the root. Unless any effect of Ayaneverse is only on a psychic level (i.e., trauma is not gone, but overcome), and only does its work on Chika and not Chinami somehow due to Ayane's understanding to everyone's situation, but this imo is a little creepy and is very close to lazy writing.

Considering Chika getting a new job and how Sel responded to the question "why Rin dyed her hair", the changes we've sneak peeked might just be a normal progression within the stories when at the same time welcoming the arrival of a season that Kumon-mi never has (here goes your normal I guess).
What I will not understand is why dyeing her hair black is a requirement from the maid cafe if such thing turns out to be true. C'mom! Classic gyaru maids! How very hot and fetishizable!

Besides, if Ayane does obtain power to make changes, the first thing she might do is make herself forget all of this and reset herself to an old oblivious version after seeing Ami's horrible death, instead of suddenly becoming a new messiah not just for Sensei, but for almost everyone (because apparently not everyone gets their fix in this Ayaneverse).

barglenarglezous · Nov 3, 2023

fdsasdf_p said:
Considering Chika getting a new job and how Sel responded to the question "why Rin dyed her hair", the changes we've sneak peeked might just be a normal progression within the stories when at the same time welcoming the arrival of a season that Kumon-mi never has (here goes your normal I guess).
What I will not understand is why dyeing her hair black is a requirement from the maid cafe if such thing turns out to be true. C'mom! Classic gyaru maids! How very hot and fetishizable!

Gyaru maids in Japan only exist in "Gyaru maid cafes," where every maid is gyaru. From a business perspective, they wouldn't blend well with the traditional maid theme.

Gyaru are seen by many as loud and obnoxious, and maid cafes are about playing up the theme, which means pushing those traits to an extreme. That's great if you're really into it, but if you're in the maid cafe for the Uta or Ami-chan experience, and there's someone playing up the gyaru stereotype at another table, it's going to sour your experience.

barglenarglezous · Nov 3, 2023

BlackDays said:
Interesting is, that some girls now seem to have those... neck bands?, or what would they be called?

Choker. The ones that are tight against the neck like Rin and Kirin are wearing are called chokers.

And Chika's is a collar, complete with a tag.

ElukiaTV · Nov 3, 2023

fdsasdf_p said:
Shouldn't Chinami also be on the list of girls with new designs/outfits next to her sister if the next update really is going to be starting in Ayaneverse?

Chinami should also be rid of a reason to keep her bleach blonde hair just like Chika if the cause of it is going to be rewritten from the root. Unless any effect of Ayaneverse is only on a psychic level (i.e., trauma is not gone, but overcome), and only does its work on Chika and not Chinami somehow due to Ayane's understanding to everyone's situation, but this imo is a little creepy and is very close to lazy writing.

Considering Chika getting a new job and how Sel responded to the question "why Rin dyed her hair", the changes we've sneak peeked might just be a normal progression within the stories when at the same time welcoming the arrival of a season that Kumon-mi never has (here goes your normal I guess).
What I will not understand is why dyeing her hair black is a requirement from the maid cafe if such thing turns out to be true. C'mom! Classic gyaru maids! How very hot and fetishizable!

Besides, if Ayane does obtain power to make changes, the first thing she might do is make herself forget all of this and reset herself to an old oblivious version after seeing Ami's horrible death, instead of suddenly becoming a new messiah not just for Sensei, but for almost everyone (because apparently not everyone gets their fix in this Ayaneverse).

Does Ayane even know of Chinami?

barglenarglezous · Nov 3, 2023

BlackDays said:
He could be using his prior game attempts as a lore backup, while, like with Dune, they won't have a real impact on Lil, besides stage setting.

The content that exists for those games are prototypes for future games. He's already said on the Discord that after LiL is over he's hiring an art team and doing Nothing is Beautiful from scratch.

IlichZ89 · Nov 3, 2023

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UPD.

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