Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

[fdsasdf_p]

Small question. I'm replaying the game and I don't remember this detail at all.

Spoiler: Rin Event: I Died With You

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There was a reason Rin and Futaba switched school districts and they'd prefer not to tell Sensei. Was this ever addressed later and I forgot about it or is this an abandoned plot point?

I don't have anything solid to prove my conjecture, but I am willing to bet it was something unpleasant according to Rin and Futaba's reaction; being bullied fits her underlying theme and sadly I doubt Yumi was the first, with Nodoka claiming to be the life-long defender of hers and whatnot. Rin as Futaba's good friend came to Kumon-mi High with her because Futaba's decision essentially made herself friendless in the new environment.

Edit: If Rin somehow knew Chika was going to enroll in Kumon-mi High, She might be the one that suggested Futaba to enroll this particular school; or it was a parallel objective on Rin's end only; or it was just not the case.

But then why don't they do anything (even as simple as moving to a different class) to try to get away from Yumi?

This is also a conjecture, but I guess Futaba immediately got smitten by Sensei first few days in Kumon-mi high. Between tolerating Yumi from time to time and not being under Sensei's wing ever, Futaba chose the former.

And let me see if I can find more stuff to answer the rest of your questions....

• Yumi says that she's bullied Futaba for as long as she's known her. Was she bullying her in middle school, or did they somehow never meet?
• Why do Nodoka and Yumi know nothing about each other if they went to the same middle school?
• Yumi, Chika, Rin, Futaba, and Nodoka all went to the same middle school. If the middle school was in the same area as the other high school, why did Yumi and Chika end up at this high school? I don't think it's very close to the old district.

Edit: OK yes Yumi, Chika, and Rin were all confirmed to be from the same class in middle school; supposedly these 3 being classmates in one class while Futaba and Nodoka being classmates in another class is possible (Futaba not chiming in the topic of being in the same class during Three Girls in a Line on the Beach could be an indirect proof of this), and Yumi only started picking on Futaba during her time in Kumon-mi High. This way neither Futaba or Nodoka would ever interact with Yumi during middle school time, and Rin was the only one that has a friend outside of her own class.

Edit2: Couldn't find a scene that hints any possible reason why Chika chose not to enroll in high schools that are in the same area of her middle school, but I also don't think we know which high school is comparatively closer to her place in the Old District. So it's not impossible that after Chiaki's passing and Chika's consideration, enrolling in Kumon-mi High instead of Kumon-mi Academy is the better option to move both her and Chinami's life forward, whether it being shorter commute to school, shorter commute to her part time job location, or enrollment cost, amongst other irl considerations. And Yumi simply followed her decision.

Conjecture, conjecture, conjecture...

 

[Riolol]

I guess the last two could be due to Yumi skipping all of the time, but Rin remembers her.

Yumi was clearly an early bloomer boob-wise, of course Rin would remember her.

 

[aramaug]

What is a moment you guys are most looking forward to?For me it HAS to be

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I have a few.

Spoiler: #1

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#2. The schadenfreude of seeing Nodoka's attempts at playing god come crashing down and her realizing that she's not as smart as she thinks she is.

#3. Finding out who USER4 is. I'm hopeful that we're close to getting more clues, since there's a good chance that Chapter 5 will be fall.

#4. Most importantly, I desperately need this to go somewhere:

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[ccxvidonaferens]

Yumi was clearly an early bloomer boob-wise, of course Rin would remember her.

Plus I guess it could be argued that Rin noticing Yumi due to her early development could have been what put Chika onto her radar, which would give her another reason for her to be so indelibly printed on her memory.

 

[Moonflare]

Yumi was clearly an early bloomer boob-wise, of course Rin would remember her.

Of all previous conjectures, this is by far the one I choose to put my faith in.

I have a few.

Spoiler: #1

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#2. The schadenfreude of seeing Nodoka's attempts at playing god come crashing down and her realizing that she's not as smart as she thinks she is.

#3. Finding out who USER4 is. I'm hopeful that we're close to getting more clues, since there's a good chance that Chapter 5 will be fall.

#4. Most importantly, I desperately need this to go somewhere:

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This totally reminded me of two things. First: obviously the moment when it is revealed that Himawari's name is Ami. And second: How does Rin feel about incest? Cause technically she was Akira's daughter before Ami in the social sense, so would she be having sex with both her sister and father? (could potentially be having sex with her step-mother as well if we include SeKaori).

 

[Kitty Hawk]

This totally reminded me of two things. First: obviously the moment when it is revealed that Himawari's name is Ami. And second: How does Rin feel about incest? Cause technically she was Akira's daughter before Ami in the social sense, so would she be having sex with both her sister and father? (could potentially be having sex with her step-mother as well if we include SeKaori).

Not to forget, Sensei could also be Rin's actual biological uncle if her father is Nozomu. That could explain her attraction towards Arakawas, as they're pretty incestuous and have high sex drive in general.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

It actually surprised me just how few lewd Kaori pics there were to be found in the custom renders. even the non lewds are pretty sparse and of the lewds there are, even fewer were worth anything, most were absolute worthless garbage so rather than being able to pick out one or two juicy ones for you, i might as well give you everything worth anything all at once. Enjoy:

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Only after witnessing these fine arts have I realized how similar each and every Kaori's hairstyle is in the game, with slight variations taking place only during Halloween cosplaying iirc. Her main one is hot as is, but if I ever see her letting all her hair down while in a bath or on the bed my dick will literally grow into the size of John Prime and my heart will explode.

 

[aramaug]

Just in time for new Io content, I've got a little question/mystery for everyone. There are a few intriguing lines in her first bathhouse event:

Spoiler: Nonetheless, I'm Here

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So my question is what is the real meaning of Io's metaphor "I woke up and walked here"?

I don't remember anything from my first playthrough that connected Io to the supernatural plot, so it's probably best not to get too crazy in interpretation, but what else am I going to do? As a purveyor of demented conspiracies totally rational theories, I can't help but think the "page 23" reference isn't a coincidence, that's not something that gets there by accident. Either Selebus is trolling us, or he's suggesting that the metaphor has something to do with Terminal 23/Kumon-mi. And connecting the idea of "waking up" to the world, I think of the crying AmIOkay (who might be Maya Prime) telling Sensei that he needs to wake up in order to open the door (the door to the "real world"?).

Spoiler: The Room With Clocks

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Is it possible that Io is "awake" to the nature of the world, and maybe even is here by choice? Probably not, but it's interesting to think about.

 

[Xiondingens]

I just did notice something. Yasu likes stuffed bunnies. And in the out of order shrine we see during mayas birthday event chain, there is also a stuffed bunny. So now i wonder, what is the connection? Is it yasu herself? Did she did that? Or is the connection her god -always forget which that is- and he is responsible. Or maybe the connection is less direct and it is just suppose to be some sort of duality with the bunny function as a dot for us to connect with an out of order shrine and her abandoned church.

 

[ElaineZol]

I just did notice something. Yasu likes stuffed bunnies. And in the out of order shrine we see during mayas birthday event chain, there is also a stuffed bunny. So now i wonder, what is the connection? Is it yasu herself? Did she did that? Or is the connection her god -always forget which that is- and he is responsible. Or maybe the connection is less direct and it is just suppose to be some sort of duality with the bunny function as a dot for us to connect with an out of order shrine and her abandoned church.

You mean the one in the event when you buy the melon from Cockawari Himawari? I don't think that has something to do with Maya, at least not directly. I think the connection is meant to be that the shrine is/was for Hope, which is the same God that Yasu follows, thus the connection with the bunny.

 

[Detective Dc345]

When the care packages come back there needs to be a naked Yahtzee animation with Rika.

 

[Xiondingens]

I don't think that has something to do with Maya, at least not directly. I think the connection is meant to be that the shrine is/was for Hope, which is the same God that Yasu follows, thus the connection with the bunny.

I never said it had anything to do with her, i just said that we saw the out of order shrine with the bunny during her birthday event chain. That is just a matter of fact. And unless i missremember that was before we even knew yasu and we never saw that shrine ever again.

 

[ElaineZol]

I never said it had anything to do with her, i just said that we saw the out of order shrine with the bunny during her birthday event chain. That is just a matter of fact. And unless i missremember that was before we even knew yasu and we never saw that shrine ever again.

And I also didn't say that you said that, I literally just replied to what you asked, unless that was a rhetorical question. The connection is with Hope, maybe even Wires if the color of the bunny is actually connected to the theories previously shared by others.

Edit: I don't think Yasu is the one that placed the bunny there, I believe is more likely that one of the gods did it, but really I don't fucking know. There is no real answer as far as I know, only theories.

 

[Xiondingens]

And I also didn't say that you said that, I literally just replied to what you asked, unless that was a rhetorical question. The connection is with Hope, maybe even Wires if the color of the bunny is actually connected to the theories previously shared by others.

No, not really, my whole comment had nothing to do with maya, the only mentioning of maya was that it was part of her birthday event chain and just there to make it easier for people to remember what shrine i am talking about.

Wait, the gods have colors? Do you mean the color of their name when they say something? Damn, and here i am already having trouble paying attention which god does what.

Edit: Just checked my original post to see if i maybe did write maya when i did mean yasu and... nope. I was talking about yasu. So i am really lost here what you mean.

 

[aramaug]

I just did notice something. Yasu likes stuffed bunnies. And in the out of order shrine we see during mayas birthday event chain, there is also a stuffed bunny. So now i wonder, what is the connection? Is it yasu herself? Did she did that? Or is the connection her god -always forget which that is- and he is responsible. Or maybe the connection is less direct and it is just suppose to be some sort of duality with the bunny function as a dot for us to connect with an out of order shrine and her abandoned church.

There isn't total consensus on this, but I and others think that the black bunnies and white bunnies are probably connected to different gods. The black bunnies to Yasu's god (presumably HOPE) and the white bunnies to one or more of Pareidolia/Sekai/The World Itself.

I think the white bunny at Himawari's stall indicates that she was the one who closed the shrine (or is working with them). My own personal belief is that was done as part of the plan to kill Maya Prime, which Himawari wanted it in order to replace Maya with Ayane. The out of order shrine is apparently significant because it means Maya can't pay her respects:

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[ElaineZol]

No, not really, my whole comment had nothing to do with maya, the only mentioning of maya was that it was part of her birthday event chain and just there to make it easier for people to remember what shrine i am talking about.

Wait, the gods have colors? Do you mean the color of their name when they say something? Damn, and here i am already having trouble paying attention which god does what.

Edit: Just checked my original post to see if i maybe did write maya when i did mean yasu and... nope. I was talking about yasu. So i am really lost here what you mean.

Holy shit dude, literally what I said, I don't think it has a connection to Maya though I could be wrong, don't remember a lot about it; I was just adding that to the comment since she was in there, that was her chain event after all. And yes, there are black bunnies and white bunnies, Black ones are for Hope and the White are for either Wires or Pareidolia or The world itself, idk which one.

aramaug Added some more content, maybe there is a connection to Maya, but then again, theories.

 

[Xiondingens]

There isn't total consensus on this, but I and others think that the black bunnies and white bunnies are probably connected to different gods. The black bunnies to Yasu's god (presumably HOPE) and the white bunnies to one or more of Pareidolia/Sekai/The World Itself.

I think the white bunny at Himawari's stall indicates that she was the one who closed the shrine (or is working with them). My own personal belief is that was done as part of the plan to kill Maya Prime, which Himawari wanted it in order to replace Maya with Ayane. The out of order shrine is apparently significant because it means Maya can't pay her respects:

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Huh, i actually never though about paying respects was more then a trow away line. I mean it is not as if maya would actually be a good shrine maiden anyway. I mean didnt she once said something like she was just one because the dress looks cute? And now i try to remember if her event chain was before or after that school dorm even when she fought against tsuneyo.

 

[aramaug]

Huh, i actually never though about paying respects was more then a trow away line. I mean it is not as if maya would actually be a good shrine maiden anyway. I mean didnt she once said something like she was just one because the dress looks cute? And now i try to remember if her event chain was before or after that school dorm even when she fought against tsuneyo.

It might not have literal meaning, but I think it is at least meant as foreshadowing (and it gives an explanation for the out-of-order shrine which I can't otherwise explain). Maya definitely doesn't actually respect the gods, but we also see her praying a bunch, probably for practical reasons. If you're referring to the scary room where Maya's death was "faked out", that happens before the festival. The next reset after the festival, though, is the one where Maya doesn't make it to the roof but someone (I think Wires) helps Sensei save her.

 

[Xiondingens]

It might not have literal meaning, but I think it is at least meant as foreshadowing (and it gives an explanation for the out-of-order shrine which I can't otherwise explain). Maya definitely doesn't actually respect the gods, but we also see her praying a bunch, probably for practical reasons. If you're referring to the scary room where Maya's death was "faked out", that happens before the festival. The next reset after the festival, though, is the one where Maya doesn't make it to the roof but someone (I think Wires) helps Sensei save her.

Yeah, that is the one i was referring to. And when that came before, then it might actually be at least part of the foreshadowing of what was to come. Not as if one would normally pay too much attention to the line that would do it tho. But in hinsight? Yeah, i can see that all been intentional. And then laughting his ass off, because the morons didnt see his obvious hints.

 

[somepersonoutofnowhere]

The next reset after the festival, though, is the one where Maya doesn't make it to the roof but someone (I think Wires) helps Sensei save her.

Spoiler: Pretty sure it was HOPE

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