Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

I've thought about it a lot and i'm thinking there's about a 50% chance the next reset will fiddle with that event, there's a few ways it could go depending on how the gods want to alter things but it's definitely one avenue of resolution that would actually, you know, resolve it enough for things to continue on. Not sure if it'd feel like a bullshit retcon but it is well established that that can happen so i wouldn't rule it out. The other 50% is trickier, every idea i come up with either leaves a rotten set of circumstances going forward or a sense the resolution will come across as arbitrary.

It is definitely possible given the focus on this update that you can "fix" girls by drowning them in the wishing well. As to how that relates to the well drying up I have no idea. Maybe they'll try to drown them and their head will hit the concrete. It seems like a weird moment to preach about drowning someone at a place that is supposed to be dried up.

Then again, HOPE was the one that "filled the well", according to Yasu. Maybe Pareidolia is having Akira choose to have sex with these girls in order to fill it, I have no idea. There's also a hint during this update that at one point the entire world/cycle will burn in celestial flames (maybe from the world itself), and even the supernatural entities will have to flee somewhere else (a new world is hinted by Maya Prime), that is probably another terminal (TERMINAL24 maybe), as I think aramaug has theorized.

All in all, it is very possible that Io will be fixed (or they'll try to) by supernatural means, rather than big dick healing ones - if that even happens.

 

[Comiies]

It is definitely possible given the focus on this update that you can "fix" girls by drowning them in the wishing well. As to how that relates to the well drying up I have no idea. Maybe they'll try to drown them and their head will hit the concrete. It seems like a weird moment to preach about drowning someone at a place that is supposed to be dried up.

Then again, HOPE was the one that "filled the well", according to Yasu. Maybe Pareidolia is having Akira choose to have sex with these girls in order to fill it, I have no idea. There's also a hint during this update that at one point the entire world/cycle will burn in celestial flames (maybe from the world itself), and even the supernatural entities will have to flee somewhere else (a new world is hinted by Maya Prime), that is probably another terminal (TERMINAL24 maybe), as I think aramaug has theorized.

All in all, it is very possible that Io will be fixed (or they'll try to) by supernatural means, rather than big dick healing ones - if that even happens.

Man i really want to go balls to the wall crazy(like my cult theory) and just rumble on about a possible battle royale between these entities with Akira being in the middle of it.Soon TM

 

[Moonflare]

I really can't comprehend the concept of a girl growing a cock, it's like they immediately stop being girls and are just effeminate pathetic boys now.
It's worse than straight sex because you usually you don't look at the man, the man is just the tool that satisfies the woman, you want to look at the girl getting fucked. But when you have a trap it's like the author is trying to make you look at the trap as well as corrupt the image of girls in general, it's blasphemous and heretic !!
Women are sacred and attaching a dick to them should be a crime.

No more gender-swapping the girls bingaygus !!

That just seems to me like double the fun. I once had one set of boobs to look at. Now I have two (without it turning into lesbian sex). Math checks out.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

That just seems to me like double the fun. I once had one set of boobs to look at. Now I have two. Math checks out.

NO !!
Penis = Man

I don't care about guys no matter how feminine they might look, I will block them out from my mind like the rest of men and pretend they don't exist, the problem is when you take a character which I considered special and you stain it like that, I don't want to have to block her out!

 

[Comiies]

That just seems to me like double the fun. I once had one set of boobs to look at. Now I have two (without it turning into lesbian sex). Math checks out.

Preach

 

[ratmanirl]

Since he is capable of showing remourse for his actions he hasnt yet crossed the line.

I mean, to me the fact that he can empathize with the girls, yet still choose to rape them, is way more disturbing than if he was just some psychopath.

I believe so, yes. Rooting for Akira to experience character growth is like half the fun of this game at this point, at least for me.

He still fucks up. A lot. And the Io event is the latest example of this. But he’s also been taking strides in the right direction, particularly with Ami.

I’m rooting for the redemption arc by the end of the game. ‘Redemption’ in this case being breaking the cycle of abuse that Sekai started. He can get help and he can grow, but he actively chooses not to right now because it’s just what he’s used to and because it’s easier.

Redemption isn't about becoming a better person, though that's the starting point, it's about answering to how he continues to sexually abuse and permanently alter the lives of multiple teenagers and paying back the unquantifiable damage that he has caused. What he did to Maya alone, in my eyes, he couldn't pay back in a lifetime, much less if you add the rest of the girls.

I guess conveniently, he does have more than a lifetime to try since he's stuck in an infinite time loop, but it's not going to be as easy as "becoming a better person." If that was what redemption was we should probably let all the rapists out of jail who claim that they're all better people now.

 

[Moonflare]

I mean, to me the fact that he can empathize with the girls, yet still choose to rape them, is way more disturbing than if he was just some psychopath.



Redemption isn't about becoming a better person, though that's the starting point, it's about answering to how he continues to sexually abuse and permanently alter the rest of their lives for multiple teenagers and paying back the unquantifiable damage that he has caused. What he did to Maya alone, in my eyes, he couldn't pay back in a lifetime, much less if you add the rest of the girls.

I guess conveniently, he does have more than a lifetime to try since he's stuck in an infinite time loop, but it's not going to be as easy as "becoming a better person." If that was what redemption was we should probably let all the rapists out of jail who claim that they're all better people now.

We're way too early in the game to even ponder if redemption (and what kind of redemption) is possible or not. The cycles seem to be supernatural in essence, and if by ending them, Akira and everyone else gets thrown back to its start - then he really has done nothing that would constitute as a crime in the real world, other than the Maya situation.

And the Maya situation is yet another thing we don't have enough context about. Or even to which extent Maya was a normal girl (not supernatural).

I don't agree that we can compare Akira's journey to any real world example yet because we lack context to even what's happening. It could all be fake, a simulation, a list of things. For myself, I'm withholding any judgement in that regard until the end of the story.

Edit: there's also another point that I find interesting to think about. If Sekai had left Nozomu as Akira became an adult, married him and had a normal life raising Ami with him from there onwards. Would we demand for her to be sent to jail 10 years after the fact? I don't know. If that happened to Maya and Akira as the game ended, would we not accept it? I don't know either. We'll find out eventually.

 

[Kitty Hawk]

I really can't comprehend the concept of a girl growing a cock, it's like they immediately stop being girls and are just effeminate pathetic boys now.
It's worse than straight sex because you usually you don't look at the man, the man is just the tool that satisfies the woman, you want to look at the girl getting fucked. But when you have a trap it's like the author is trying to make you look at the trap as well as corrupt the image of girls in general, it's blasphemous and heretic !!
Women are sacred and attaching a dick to them should be a crime.

No more gender-swapping the girls bingaygus !!

But what if a girl has 2 cocks?

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[Bingoogus]

That just seems to me like double the fun. I once had one set of boobs to look at. Now I have two (without it turning into lesbian sex). Math checks out.

Lmao, i put that guy on ignore a while ago cause of his whining and after long since forgetting about him i clicked your post to see who you were replying to and guess what, it's the same dude, whining about the same thing...

 

[XHunterz]

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This activates my almonds.


You'll miss events if your don't destroy her...

Why orange hair girl has a dick how to replace it?

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Lmao, i put that guy on ignore a while ago cause of his whining and after long since forgetting about him i clicked your post to see who you were replying to and guess what, it's the same dude, whining about the same thing...

You can ignore people here? How?

 

[barglenarglezous]

Lmao, i put that guy on ignore a while ago cause of his whining and after long since forgetting about him i clicked your post to see who you were replying to and guess what, it's the same dude, whining about the same thing...

Now hear me out -- all 32 non-wizard girls, futafied, in a daisy chain.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

feelsbadman

 

[Nadekai]

Now hear me out -- all 32 non-wizard girls, futafied, in a daisy chain.

... hot ...

 

[XHunterz]

... hot ...

Hey do you know the orange hair has a dick how to you know change it

 

[aintnowayy]

anyone know how to unlock the missed events using URM? or how to do it without getting flagged as a cheater? i've never used URM so idk

 

[Moonflare]

Now hear me out -- all 32 non-wizard girls, futafied, in a daisy chain.

"Daisy, Daisy,
Give me your answer, do!
I'm half crazy,
All for the love of you!
It won't be a stylish marriage,
I can't afford a carriage,
But you'll look sweet upon the seat
Of a bicycle built for two!"

 

[Bingoogus]

You can ignore people here? How?

Hover your cursor over a person's username until the pop-up appears and then click the ignore option.

 

[ratmanirl]

We're way too early in the game to even ponder if redemption (and what kind of redemption) is possible or not. The cycles seem to be supernatural in essence, and if by ending them, Akira and everyone else gets thrown back to its start - then he really has done nothing that would constitute as a crime in the real world, other than the Maya situation.

And the Maya situation is yet another thing we don't have enough context about. Or even to which extent Maya was a normal girl (not supernatural).

I don't agree that we can compare Akira's journey to any real world example yet because we lack context to even what's happening. It could all be fake, a simulation, a list of things. For myself, I'm withholding any judgement in that regard until the end of the story.

Edit: there's also another point that I find interesting to think about. If Sekai had left Nozomu as Akira became an adult, married him and had a normal life raising Ami with him from there onwards. Would we demand for her to be sent to jail 10 years after the fact? I don't know. If that happened to Maya and Akira as the game ended, would we not accept it? I don't know either. We'll find out eventually.

I mean you kinda can. Maybe for stuff where he blacks out, he can be held less accountable for, but 90% of why he's even there in the first place is entirely his fault.

You know, personally if you knew that for some reason you couldn't control yourself around young girls, maybe going on dates with them, or hanging out alone with them, or not seeking help, are all things you can control? At least for me, the basic amount of human empathy would make the choice pretty clear between not getting "affection" versus potentially ruining the life of another person, much less a child.

I also don't really understand why people set the bar so low for this dude either? Reminds me of all the isekais where it's like "wow, the MC is such a great person for not abusing the slave they bought." Like, no? It's basic human decency to not take advantage of people? Just like how the bar of "wow, you didn't abuse this child" that people assign to the MC is quite possibly the lowest fucking bar I've ever heard of?

And yes, the "it was all a dream" angle is a possibility for redemption, but I didn't count it as Sel said he would shoot himself if he wrote such a cop-out lol.

 

[ratmanirl]

Sorry rereading ur post my post is barely related but I saw some guy say how nothing is the MCs fault and I was thinking of that while writing lol.