DeanNoriko

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I think we have already agreed on several occasions that Sel's idea of gameplay is pretty bad, and he might not even necessarily disagree with the general notion that the gameplay experience could be better.

But calling it unplayable is simply unfair and untrue, both on the factual level as well as the perceived one.
It's repetitive and can sometimes feel unfair in how complicated some of the unlock conditions are for certain events, but it's definitely manageable, at least many on here did so without abandoning it.
And while I would generally agree that the gameplay can be off-putting for some players, I think the main reasons for people abandoning it are usually other ones.

However, I want to remind people that the general consensus here is that going the green route and seeing all events is the one true way to play the game as it is the author's vision and "canon". That does make sense and I can get behind that, but at the end of the day, it is up to the players to decide whether they want to do it the way the author intended or make use of other options available and risk skipping content.

Virtually the same can be said about the general gameplay loop. Sel's vision probably would be for the player to feel some form of frustration by having to figure out the correct sequence of events or finding happy scenes seemingly by random. I think the Alexis happy scene is a good recent example for this. Even potentially missing events if you fail to follow the "correct" choices gives a bit of meaning and reason for this being called a game as opposed to a kinetic novel.
However, understandably, some players want to ignore that vision and do it their way and use the guide mod to get through the game faster and without worrying to miss anything.

Personally, I haven't used the guide mod in the past, I have worked through the grind and reputative gameplay loop, knowing it will reward me with good content. I also haven't followed the green route, making decisions based on personal preferences and an interpretation of what an authentic choice for Akira would be, even if it means missing scenes.
That being said, I am glad the mod exists and have started using it during my current replay, mostly to make sure I get to see all events.

I want to stress however that there is one clear exception to all of this where I cannot possibly defend Sel:
The reset puzzles are ass and should be reworked, at least in the future. Those I am pretty sure have frustrated some of the new players enough to drop this title.
I also belong to the group of people who had to look up here or on reddit for puzzle solutions, since the experience is nowhere as fulfilling or clever as Sel probably thinks it is.
Like honestly, just make it lore-based questions or something, the girls favorite stuff or anything that would be somewhat fun to look up if you are not called aramaug, Moonflare or Deskel and know it by heart. Just not random sequences of numbers that were hidden in the corner of an obscure event or stuff you literally need to google. Or trial & error clicking things until something happens. Bad! Bad Selebus!
 

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I'll get aramaug and DeSkel together to get a trivia of the day going then :ROFLMAO:

Himawari's birthday is dec 28, which is also the day the resets started (we assume). This was revealed by both the event with the same name (the first sleepover with Yumi and RAS), and the wiki entry that is assumed to have been edited by Selebus himself.
 

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Or trial & error clicking things until something happens. Bad! Bad Selebus!
Early on, there was an event that could only be triggered by visiting the dorms, choosing "knock on a door" then "go home". I hated this for a few reasons, first because going home is rarely a good option because if you have nothing else to do, you might as well grind an affection or lust point, second because if for some reason you did want to go home you would do it from the main set of choices, not after going three levels deep so this is an option that would never get tried as part of normal gameplay, and third (and most importantly) it makes no sense that going home via one option would make something happen while doing it via another option wouldn't. It felt like a cheap way to hide the path forward, and it's definitely not the only time he does it.
 

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Early on, there was an event that could only be triggered by visiting the dorms, choosing "knock on a door" then "go home". I hated this for a few reasons, first because going home is rarely a good option because if you have nothing else to do, you might as well grind an affection or lust point, second because if for some reason you did want to go home you would do it from the main set of choices, not after going three levels deep so this is an option that would never get tried as part of normal gameplay, and third (and most importantly) it makes no sense that going home via one option would make something happen while doing it via another option wouldn't. It felt like a cheap way to hide the path forward, and it's definitely not the only time he does it.
Strangely enough if this is the same event I'm thinking of I have a distinct memory of stumbling upon it by accident. But I don't mean to completely deminish your point, because I'm pretty sure I only found it because of a series of misclicks brought about by spamming left click while I was trying to grind affection/lust. It would be funny but also kind of dumb if that's was actually the method by which Selebus intended people to find it.
 

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Despite how horny i might come across half the time, it's actually quite rare for anything from this game to get a reaction out of my penis, nineteen times out of twenty, i simply find the girls cute or adorable, not sexy, not 'dayum girl...'.

But this post got a little wiggle from my spaghetti, all three images for slightly different reasons... they're all still hitting that cute and adorable vibe... but there's also a very prominent carnal string tracing its way through every image...
 

DeanNoriko

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Strangely enough if this is the same event I'm thinking of I have a distinct memory of stumbling upon it by accident. But I don't mean to completely deminish your point, because I'm pretty sure I only found it because of a series of misclicks brought about by spamming left click while I was trying to grind affection/lust. It would be funny but also kind of dumb if that's was actually the method by which Selebus intended people to find it.
I actually did the same, but it was for a more recent event. I think it was the one where the dorms get all glitchy and the walls and floors disappear? I might be misremembering.
But what I do remember is that it was the option to switch floors, I think from the second floor to the first floor, because he removed the Go Home option and for whatever reason Sel didn't program a button to just go back out of the dorms completely in case you changed your mind and therefore always had to roll back.
I did that naturally when trying to check for event triggers (for the dorm room events) and I guess I didn't go mechanically from the lower floor to the upper one but switched.

The scene TBone is talking about it is the happy event The Letter T from Chapter 1. I know it is because that's exactly where I am in my replay :KEK:

The point still stands though, there is no logical gameplay reason to use the Go Home option pretty much anywhere other than by misclicking.
It could have said Click here if you are a big gay pissy boy who wants to waste his time and it would have virtually had the same value. Because you would only ever click it consciously in the hopes that Sel wants you to click it right in that moment.
 
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Despite how horny i might come across half the time, it's actually quite rare for anything from this game to get a reaction out of my penis, nineteen times out of twenty, i simply find the girls cute or adorable, not sexy, not 'dayum girl...'.

But this post got a little wiggle from my spaghetti, all three images for slightly different reasons... they're all still hitting that cute and adorable vibe... but there's also a very prominent carnal string tracing its way through every image...
these two are doing things to me
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sexually confident Yumi, and traumaless confident Io would throw sexy balance into chaos. Where do I sign for that cycle?
 
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Detective Dc345

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Despite how horny i might come across half the time, it's actually quite rare for anything from this game to get a reaction out of my penis, nineteen times out of twenty, i simply find the girls cute or adorable, not sexy, not 'dayum girl...'.

But this post got a little wiggle from my spaghetti, all three images for slightly different reasons... they're all still hitting that cute and adorable vibe... but there's also a very prominent carnal string tracing its way through every image...
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DeSkel15

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Hm, some random trivia that I found interesting is that Sel has used the "taking a bite out of your heart" line more than once.

Like way back with Huggy Boy Noriko:
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And far more recently with Uta:
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And probably at some other point, that I don't recall.

Considering these aren't even from the same continuity, I think Sel just likes this pick up(?) line.
 

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these two are doing things to me
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sexually confident Yumi, and traumaless confident Io would through sexy balance into chaos. Where do I sign for that cycle?
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Early on, there was an event that could only be triggered by visiting the dorms, choosing "knock on a door" then "go home". I hated this for a few reasons
Don't forget a few months ago a new happy event needs you to go to the second floor and then back to the first one.
 
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Can't quote mans because owo? but RE: guide mod comment

I stumbled into this vidya game on random chance because i'm a degen who used f95 to find other things relevant to interests.

I think it was because i liked Corrupted Kingdoms i searched by Ren'Py or some sort of tag to find similar games and now i'm unfortunately hooked on this evil piece of work.

I didn't know how expansive the game was, how much it would want me to press on and read more and i just used the wiki and free releases to catch up. But that was simply because the idea of 'failing' an event upset me and i wanted to full experience, the guided mod helps but once you know what you're in for you kinda start saving slots that have any sort of number on screen out of habit, any sort of weird out of context information and abusing the shit out of the H button when static happens to cap something that might mean nothing but be somehow unfortunately relevant later.

I do genuinely have saves that date back to bad uncle choice route, or the first dorm wars winner or the 3some selection etc because i've learnt that Selebus is a fucking egotistical menace who changes the rules whenever the fuck he wants like a child upset you beat them at their made up rules, I have Amy event saves but i'm not loading them since it apparently does nothing right now.

The very point i'm making however is that the game is really playable and the rollback function exists if you make a bad choice, I've done it plenty of times going in without help and using save slots are your friend.

It is absolutely a smoother experience if you go into with a guide mod and URM however but that's just the nature of things. But it wouldn't be Lessons in Love if the Lesson you learnt wasn't the fact the dev is an asshat :^)

Edit: Fuck Sensei Quest tho that shit was dumb.
 
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Detective Dc345

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History yet again repeats itself. While scrolling through itch.io I come across yet another homo-erotic visual novel with a main character to that looks similar to Sensei. But this time it looks like Sensei and Sana had a femboy son.
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Footnote: I just realized Sana's last name was Sakakibara and not Sakibara. I've been mispronouncing it for 4 years now.
 

Detective Dc345

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Jokes on us, DC is just spamming femboi Sensei games to make Sel apoplectic.

Jokes on me, I just posted this as an excuse to use the word apoplectic.
My new headcanon is Sel started out making femboy centric games under numerous pseudonyms then realized it wasn't working and then tried using girls instead and struck gold.
 
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