Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

Hey, just thought I would ask as I'm not much for replaying and am a bit of the perfectionist side. Unless an event is said to happen at a specific day and time while playing by either something written on the main screen or something said by a character, do I have to worry about some paths or events being gone forever? Want to make sure to do this right but not sure if relying on hints and planning everything I do is something I want to do without reason.

no, but some events are missable if you don't have enough lust points, or have seen x event before a certain point. LiL is a game in which there is a green path (a playthrough in which you're able to see every single event), and then there is a red path (where you either miss some of them because of a mistake on your part, or choosing to do so).

If you don't like replays and want to get all events, you should aim for the green path. And while that isn't impossible to do with guidance, it's also difficult. Again, you should just follow the hints page and especially mind the red alerts:

Spoiler: hints

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There is no specific order in which you have to do these events, mind you, the hints page is just telling you which events are available. The exception would be to cater to an alert.

Playing it all through in one go... Well, make sure to go out and breathe some fresh air occasionally.

I recommend some gum as well.

Spoiler: back in style

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Edit: Ah, the small joy of being able to reject the human trash at least once.

Spoiler: Behind a bathroom

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Which is also satisfying because she then has to be like:

Spoiler: Prisoner

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Get wrecked, Kirin (this doesn't interfere with the green path, but it will lock out the first lust replay for her).

 

[barglenarglezous]

Hey, just thought I would ask as I'm not much for replaying and am a bit of the perfectionist side. Unless an event is said to happen at a specific day and time while playing by either something written on the main screen or something said by a character, do I have to worry about some paths or events being gone forever? Want to make sure to do this right but not sure if relying on hints and planning everything I do is something I want to do without reason.

There is one big one -- if you advance too far down Chika's path before the first beach event, it disrupts Rin's path a bit. So make sure to wait until after the beach event chain to do the Chika event called "Schadenfruede".

 

[VoidExile]

no, but some events are missable if you don't have enough lust points, or have seen x event before a certain point. LiL is a game in which there is a green path (a playthrough in which you're able to see every single event), and then there is a red path (where you either miss some of them because of a mistake on your part, or choosing to do so).

If you don't like replays and want to get all events, you should aim for the green path. And while that isn't impossible to do with guidance, it's also difficult. Again, you should just follow the hints page and especially mind the red alerts:

Spoiler: hints

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There is no specific order in which you have to do these events, mind you, the hints page is just telling you which events are available. The exception would be to cater to an alert.

I recommend some gum as well.

Spoiler: back in style

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Edit: Ah, the small joy of being able to reject the human trash at least once.

Spoiler: Behind a bathroom

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Which is also satisfying because she then has to be like:

Spoiler: Prisoner

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Get wrecked, Kirin (this doesn't interfere with the green path, but it will lock out the first lust replay for her).

Don't think I quite understand what a green and red path is. I see exclamation marks tho but not on my end yet

 

[Vizer007]

Don't think I quite understand what a green and red path is. I see exclamation marks tho but not on my end yet

Green path is a path where you see all events, there will be a few you will wish to miss but your dedication to green path helped you to stick to it and prevail!

Red path - you missed an event, either by missing a requirement or by your own decision. You will be tempted to step on this path. Stay strong.

 

[Budoop]

Kirin sexually assaulted Ayane, and regardless, she was tearing into him because she actually thought he raped Karin. As soon as she finds out he stopped when she was opposed to it, you can see her face going into "what's her deal then?"

Also regardless regardless, this is the same Kirin that told him she'd be fine with him raping people and would like to watch when talking about Molly. So yeah, trash remains trash until sacrificing herself on Ami's knife in my book.

I mean...it is Kirin:

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Kirin was probably more jealous of Karin getting attention from Sensei, and Sensei almost getting to fuck Karin (since Kirin wants to fuck her), than upset about her sister getting creeped on.

Honestly yeah good points, I mistook her emotion for concern I think lmao.
I've been giving her too much credit, genuinely forgot how awful she was.

someone Please tell me we will be able to get revenge on Tsuneyo for what she did in the second dorm fight

Pretty sure you'll be able to get in her pants soon if that counts.
I don't see any notion that Akira wants revenge on her at all, she was kinda right but in an disagreeable way.

 

[VoidExile]

Green path is a path where you see all events, there will be a few you will wish to miss but your dedication to green path helped you to stick to it and prevail!

Red path - you missed an event, either by missing a requirement or by your own decision. You will be tempted to step on this path. Stay strong.

Why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of any of you? Is it so hard to believe that there are people in this world who just likes to do things right the first time without going through too much effort to get there? Like You tell me the concept but don't give me the base, the thing I'm suppose to stand on to move on. Have I just not gotten to the point where this green and red path thing is explained?

 

[barglenarglezous]

Why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of any of you? Is it so hard to believe that there are people in this world who just likes to do things right the first time without going through too much effort to get there? Like You tell me the concept but don't give me the base, the thing I'm suppose to stand on to move on. Have I just not gotten to the point where this green and red path thing is explained?

It's not explained in-game, as "red path" and "green path" are ways the fans have come up with to describe how the game tracks things.

If you go into the menu and look at the list of events, you'll see that the events you've completed will be highlighted in green.

If you miss the trigger for an event (for example, if you turn down one of the side characters sexual advances), the event will be marked out with a red line, and the name will also be red, indicating a missed event (the name also changes.

"Green Path" isimply means you're making choices that show every event in the game. "Red Path" means you're making some choices that blocked off events.

In the early game, the biggest way to wind up on the red path is to turn down Sara (Sana's mother) when she propositions you. This blocks off quite a few events for both Sara and Sana later in the game (they won't show as missed until you actually reach their point in the story, though). Turning down Ami is another major one. Generally speaking, saying no to sex will always result in missed events (obviously).

I mentioned in a previous post that doing a certain Chika event too soon will cause a lot of Rin's events to get missed. Later (in chapter 2) going on a trip with Chika before doing all the Yumi events from that update will cause a scene MUCH later in the game (chapter 3) to be missed. I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting, but those are the big "how did I miss this" moments.

You can also miss events by not having enough Lust poitns with a girl. Not having enough Affection won't cause events to be missed (progress pauses until you have enough to trigger the event), but Lust determines whether sex scenes that trigger at very specific story moments happen or not. It's for this reason that most people here suggest using the Universal Ren'py Mod or a save file editor to alter values to a high number so you don't risk missing content.

 

[bobloblawwwwwww]

VoidExile It's never "explained." There's basically a canon path and a non-canon path. If you decide to be good uncle and not fuck Ami then it's the red path, if you make certain choices you'll miss certain events and then you're technically on the red path. That's all there is to it. The game doesn't really tell you, you'll only know once you look at the events pages and see things marked out, indicating you missed them.

There are a couple times you need to take it slow with Chika and do other events before you progress with her or you'll miss events with other people. The first time the game kinda tells you. Just make sure you stick to promises you make to people. The second one I had no idea and ended up having to go back and replay a chunk of the game.

 

[Detective Dc345]

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[Budoop]

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Nodoka must have cottoned onto Sana being a freak in the sheets.

 

[JelF547]

Spoiler: Ren? Ran? Ramp?

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Is it a preview?

Also, her name is Ron

 

[daagagsdgd]

She also uses Ami's lust name. I assume it's just because those are the game's first two lust names (the only ones at that point?) and Sensei's brain is free associating.

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I'm not sure what you're asking here, or if you just wanted me to comment on the Sekai/letter T thing. I personally think that both Maya and Ami are dream babies for reasons independent of this passage, and it could be interpreted to support that, but as you point out neither AmIOkay nor Sensei outright states that anyone is a dream baby.

AmIOkay doesn't just represent Sekai in this event, since Sekai is a big incest fan whereas AmIOkay disapproves.

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This is even more confused though, since refusing to have sex on her best friend's bed points to Maya, but if she was just the Maya we know, having sex with Akira wouldn't be incest no matter what bed it's on. I think Akira's mind is just jumbling a lot of things together, and AmIOkay is some combination of his thoughts regarding Maya, Sekai, and Ami here.

In regards to the girl whose name begins with the letter T, I do think that refers to Sekai, though maybe not directly and maybe not exclusively; it could be someone outside the simulation that Sekai is a reflection of or something like that. The part I've always been opposed to is the idea that the T stands for teacher - I still think it stands for something that we don't know.

Actually, there was something in the last update relevant to this. Previously, some people argued with me that Akira knew her as "Teacher" because she was an English teacher and thus used an English title, but in the alternate timeline she revealed that Akira called her Sensei, so that theory is out.

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I hold same opinion here, that is both Ami and Maya are dream babies here. Or, further elaborate, Maya - or whoever her true name is - Probably starts with T -must be the "real" niece with which Akira engaged in incest (please tell me I'm not only one believes Ami is Maya).

There are a plethora of hints that can be taken out of early Happy Events. Though the Happy storyline seems to shift itself from Maya to Sekai and other supernatural entities since chapter 3 so I've retained my opinion for a while. I wonder if it'd be picked up since I'm yet finished but I can't hold it any longer.

Aramaug clarified on why 61 can't represent Sekai. Though for me it's plausible since I think 61 shared Akira's inherit guilty of conducting incest, thus despise it. But 61 even once called her very opponent as Sekai.

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Then the only personnel left is Ami himself. In fact, as I've said, I never believed Ami is anything true. Probably something program generated like HOPE. A substitution for Maya to alleviate Akira's remorse.

That said, the thing that triggered me into building this theory was a line from Baby Finches. I really think there couldn't be any other way to interpret it:

Akira was thinking about place in where he wanted to engage intercourse with Maya in the past. And suddenly a weird selection came to his mind.

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He felt somehow most excited for having it in house of Maya's parents. Why? He immediately said that he never heard Maya talk about them. And remember we never saw Maya discussing on her parent and Makoto said all of her personal info are fake.

The only tenable explanation is that Maya's parents were no strangers to Akira at all and Maya is niece of Akira (notice the terrified Ami in the background) and he wanted to conduct intercourse with his niece in her very dead parents' house.

And reason for his ultimate guilty? Maya jumped, like he from rooftop in the beginning.

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P.S. Aramaug I agree upon your view that Maya (whichever she is) was first narrator. And I find it's hard to omit relation between her and omnipresent Moon.

It's specifically stated that voice of 61 reminded Akira of the Moon.

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Another place on the list is also the Moon.

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And current Maya saw enlarged Moon as same one as always.

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And, although it's directly taken from Touka's Under My Wing, it described the Moon as perspective of a beholder, tragically gazing down on far smaller things.

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[Detective Dc345]

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[LessonsInDissonance]

Why is Selebus posting more previews than usual

 

[Moonflare]

Why is Selebus posting more previews than usual

Must be that old christmas cheer.

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I am so living for looking at Nodoka and finding her to be the cutest. Will those feelings survive her actual new outlook on life when the update rolls in? who knows. So I'll keep making it count until then (as it may be shortlived):

Look at my little Nodoka! Isn't she the cutest little martyr that reedemed herself and now can do no wrong? She's so cute!

 

[Detective Dc345]

Why is Selebus posting more previews than usual

I would think he would want to he ahead of schedule becuase of Christmas and to avoid delaying the update like before because he forgot about Christmas.

 

[shmurfer]

Don't think I quite understand what a green and red path is. I see exclamation marks tho but not on my end yet

If you have the guide mod, events with exclamation marks can be clicked on to get a hint about what to do so you don't miss events.

If you miss events, they appear red in the list and any playthrough that misses events is called red path. Completionists want to watch every event and we call that the green path.

There's also lore insinuations that green path is the proper way to play the game. Some red path choices result in oddly comedic writing that doesn't fit the game around them (Like someone fucking their comatose patient on green path turns into them crying out "WHY CAN'T YOU CUM" on red path)

 

[Antosha]

Why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of any of you? Is it so hard to believe that there are people in this world who just likes to do things right the first time without going through too much effort to get there? Like You tell me the concept but don't give me the base, the thing I'm suppose to stand on to move on. Have I just not gotten to the point where this green and red path thing is explained?

If you look at one of the lists of events—there are a couple of ways to do this, but the easiest is to click on the Event Tracker button at the bottom of the screen—you'll see as you complete scenes that they turn from grey, pink (h scenes), or blue (not sure what that means) to green. If you're blocked from a scene, the name gets struck out and turns red. So the green path is completing every scene, and the red path... isn't. Sounds like you want the green path.

I'm on the red path at the moment; there's one scene that, while I did actually play it, I really didn't enjoy [/understatement]. For the moment I'm playing as if I didn't make the choice that led to that scene. If it turns out that doing so locks me out of being able to keep moving forward in the future, I'll use URM to change the variable and advance. But not going to replay that scene in the gallery. Nope.

 

[fasoaga]

Don't think I quite understand what a green and red path is. I see exclamation marks tho but not on my end yet

To see every event without missing anything:

-Go to first page and download autoVN mod

-In game go to settings and make sure autovn mod is on

-Restart the game and hold ctrl until you reach something different. (It skips grinding for lust and affecting points so you just need to hold ctrl)

-When you are givin choices, act like a complete piece of shit and choose the most morally wrong option.

This method shows the all event are there without missing anything except grinding for points. (And to be honest who even wants that.)

 

[Antosha]

Nodoka must have cottoned onto Sana being a freak in the sheets.

Gosh. You think the Nodokathon might have given her (and every other girl there) that idea?

ETA: Also, it's interesting that Sana isn't shutting down or backing away. Not sure she looks particularly happy, but one-eyed Sana would have crumpled under that Nodoka gaze, don't you think? Huh.