Budoop

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If I was a betting man I would say those costs could be high.

And I am not the gambling one.
Koikatsu as far as I can tell is $60, Substar takes a roughly 7% cut from what I can tell.
He obviously has to pay himself at least a living wage, which in the US is apparently 6000$ a month (Please correct me if I'm wrong, also holy shit the cost of living there must be nuts).

So he should have change and some, but not apparently be loaded.

Wild cause 6k$ a month for me would be living it large.

Either way yeah, it seems it wouldn't be enough to hire two people in that country to work full time so you and that other guy are right.
 

Moonflare

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Koikatsu as far as I can tell is $60, Substar takes a roughly 7% cut from what I can tell.
He obviously has to pay himself at least a living wage, which in the US is apparently 6000$ a month (Please correct me if I'm wrong, also holy shit the cost of living there must be nuts).

So he should have change and some, but not apparently be loaded.

Wild cause 6k$ a month for me would be living it large.

Either way yeah, it seems it wouldn't be enough to hire two people in that country to work full time so you and that other guy are right.
In the case of the US, these standards of living vary a lot depending on the state. Given that Selebus is from Texas, 10k would be more than enough to provide for himself and his family and then some, by my account. Obviously that also depends on personal preference, as I'm a frugal person, and who knows if he's also paying for a live-in catgirl fulltime at his home.
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Edit: He could also be the live-in catgirl at his home, which would save a lot of money.
 

fasoaga

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I don't think anyone who has seen the Room with Clocks and This Town Has Two Halves and decided to stick with the game cares about the animations enough to donate monthly.

Sure people may want to have better animations but it wouldn't be the thing that pushes them to pay selebus.

"Yeah i love/hate this game which i impatiently wait for the next update to see more events with the characters i love/hate, but i won't donate the dev, because 30 sex scenes in this 3 million word VN has bad animation. "


On the other hand if he is selling non cannon sex animations, he should hire someone good at it. Because at this point he is looking for a profit in sexual content, not the story he writes in LiL.
 

Budoop

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I don't think anyone who has seen the Room with Clocks and This Town Has Two Halves and decided to stick with the game cares about the animations enough to donate monthly.

Sure people may want to have better animations but it wouldn't be the thing that pushes them to pay selebus.

"Yeah i love/hate this game which i impatiently wait for the next update to see more events with the characters i love/hate, but i won't donate the dev, because 30 sex scenes in this 3 million word VN has bad animation. "


On the other hand if he is selling non cannon sex animations, he should hire someone good at it. Because at this point he is looking for a profit in sexual content, not the story he writes in LiL.
That's fair.
The highest grossing games do tend to be much more digestible story wise too.
 
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LessonsInDissonance

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Either way yeah, it seems it wouldn't be enough to hire two people in that country to work full time so you and that other guy are right.
You are forgetting that this is a visual novel and you don't necessarily need to even be in the same country to contribute.

I am not from the US, so if hipothetically I were to help with something like writing, I would be content with just 1k a month.
I might despise Selebus but I hate that people assume the motivation for these things is pure greed, this is a man's passion and there's just no way of knowing what's behind the scenes.

There are no negatives to having a bigger budget so I support what he's doing. I would personally love for there to be a dedicated animator.
 
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barglenarglezous

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Koikatsu as far as I can tell is $60, Substar takes a roughly 7% cut from what I can tell.
He obviously has to pay himself at least a living wage, which in the US is apparently 6000$ a month (Please correct me if I'm wrong, also holy shit the cost of living there must be nuts).

So he should have change and some, but not apparently be loaded.

Wild cause 6k$ a month for me would be living it large.

Either way yeah, it seems it wouldn't be enough to hire two people in that country to work full time so you and that other guy are right.
1) Sel revealed a few years ago that he lives (or at least lived) in Houston, TX. I don't know if this is still true, but my breakdown assumes it is.
2) Sel is self-employed, which puts some stressors on finances that most of us may not think of.

Taxes: American's pre-pay most of our federal taxes. A percentage is withheld from our paychecks, and at the start of every year we do the math and submit paperwork to show that we either did not pay enough, or paid too much and are due a refund. Since Sel is self-employed, this pre-payment does not automatically happen, and he has to save up to pay (he can pre-pay on his own if he desires, but it's not required, though I would encourage it if you're making that kind of money). This is for the federal income tax, only.

In addition, there are seperate "payroll taxes" for Social Security and Medicare that are paid directly through payroll deduction. As a payroll tax, this is paid 50/50 by both the employer and the employee. When we're self-employed, that means we pay both halves -- meaning the tax burden is a little bit higher for him than it is for me (a corporate stooge).

The third thing is health insurance. Most Americans receive a health insurance policy through their employer (or their partner's employer). If self-employed, or if the employer doesn't offer that benefit, you can get a policy on the individual market. The individual market is VERY expensive, and getting moreso every year. There are subsidies that help reduce that cost, but at the kind of money he brings in, he likely does not qualify for them. I don't know if he gets his coverage through his wife's employer or the individual market, so this may or may not be a major expense for him. But if he and his wife are both getting coverage through the individual market, that expense is probably larger than their mortgage payment.

In terms of cost of living, Houston is fairly inexpensive, especially for a city of its size. Of the 20 largest cities in Texas, it's the 10th most expensive (Texas is, on the whole, in the middle of the pack -- substantially cheaper than the states non-Americans typically think of, like California or New York). The most expensive thing specific to Texas is property taxes, since Texas doesn't have a state income tax, most of the state's revenue comes from a point-of-sale sales tax and property taxes, and the general consensus in the state is that property taxes in particular are growing out of control.

$10k/month comes out to $120k/year. To put this into perspective, the median HOUSEHOLD income in the US for 2023 was $80k. The median personal income for that year was $42k. A salary of $167K would put you in the top %10 of earners. Sel's income from Subscribestar alone puts him in the upper middle class, and that's not factoring in any income from his wife.

So he's doing pretty well for himself. He could afford to hire someone to help him, but that's a sucker's bet. Set as much as possible aside for legal expenses in this political climate. Oklahoma is already trying to ban all forms of pornography in that state, and it's likely Texas will try to follow suit.
 

fasoaga

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I'm replaying the halloween event of second chapter and didn't realise why Yumi get excited to get a present from Akira... until she learns it's from Yuki and gets angry.
She wasn't angry at her mom, she was angry at herself because she was foolish enough to belive Akira would remember her birtday.

FUCK SENSEI, FUCK SELEBUS, FUCK THIS GAME We are at version 0.47 and not even a hug happens?






I like Yumi now....
 

Moonflare

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What's up with the white cat? Anyone have any theories on what it is?
yes.

1. It's Maya (either Maya's influence on what's happening, or simply the presence of Narrator Maya). As for why Maya is related to the cat, it's because she both behaves and is classified as a cat by both humans and gods; and that we suspect Maya may have been the stray (cat) god before being conjured up from the well by Akira. Also the cat first (?) shows up with Maya by the school that is outside (?) kumon-mi.

2. It's a sign that there is supernatural influence on the scene. There are some events in which that makes more sense (as the Makoto conversation after Miku has to go to the hospital), and scenes in which it barely does (like Karin playing with the cat when she asks if Akira is dating Kirin).

3. It's just a cat.

None of these theories have enough traction at the moment for us to put them forward, but we have discussed it from time to time.
 

elricsecret

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In the case of the US, these standards of living vary a lot depending on the state. Given that Selebus is from Texas, 10k would be more than enough to provide for himself and his family and then some, by my account. Obviously that also depends on personal preference, as I'm a frugal person, and who knows if he's also paying for a live-in catgirl fulltime at his home.
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that $10k is going straight to therapy for selebus.
 

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I'm replaying the halloween event of second chapter and didn't realise why Yumi get excited to get a present from Akira... until she learns it's from Yuki and gets angry.
She wasn't angry at her mom, she was angry at herself because she was foolish enough to belive Akira would remember her birtday.
At least she is sitting right next to Maya and Wakana among probably the only three girls whose birthdays Sensei actually remembers (in fact Yumi is statistically "the most congratulated one"). This ironically says a lot in comparison to his entire neglected harem. I am not really sure who else's birthday he remembers and I am not even convinced that this bastard has finally decided to learn his daughter's birthday.

I don't think anyone who has seen the Room with Clocks and This Town Has Two Halves and decided to stick with the game cares about the animations enough to donate monthly.
But...I'd love to see Yumi beating Nodoka being animated... :HideThePain:
 

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Man, wtf Sel means with "a couple more years" bro... Like somebody said i will have to left to my grand-grand-grandchildren the saves to end the game Most of us will have gray hair (if we have some) shitting ourself and Noriko wont have any action at all and the 105th dorm war will be happening having some other random band from 2324
 

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1) Sel revealed a few years ago that he lives (or at least lived) in Houston, TX. I don't know if this is still true, but my breakdown assumes it is.
2) Sel is self-employed, which puts some stressors on finances that most of us may not think of.

Taxes: American's pre-pay most of our federal taxes. A percentage is withheld from our paychecks, and at the start of every year we do the math and submit paperwork to show that we either did not pay enough, or paid too much and are due a refund. Since Sel is self-employed, this pre-payment does not automatically happen, and he has to save up to pay (he can pre-pay on his own if he desires, but it's not required, though I would encourage it if you're making that kind of money). This is for the federal income tax, only.

In addition, there are seperate "payroll taxes" for Social Security and Medicare that are paid directly through payroll deduction. As a payroll tax, this is paid 50/50 by both the employer and the employee. When we're self-employed, that means we pay both halves -- meaning the tax burden is a little bit higher for him than it is for me (a corporate stooge).

The third thing is health insurance. Most Americans receive a health insurance policy through their employer (or their partner's employer). If self-employed, or if the employer doesn't offer that benefit, you can get a policy on the individual market. The individual market is VERY expensive, and getting moreso every year. There are subsidies that help reduce that cost, but at the kind of money he brings in, he likely does not qualify for them. I don't know if he gets his coverage through his wife's employer or the individual market, so this may or may not be a major expense for him. But if he and his wife are both getting coverage through the individual market, that expense is probably larger than their mortgage payment.

In terms of cost of living, Houston is fairly inexpensive, especially for a city of its size. Of the 20 largest cities in Texas, it's the 10th most expensive (Texas is, on the whole, in the middle of the pack -- substantially cheaper than the states non-Americans typically think of, like California or New York). The most expensive thing specific to Texas is property taxes, since Texas doesn't have a state income tax, most of the state's revenue comes from a point-of-sale sales tax and property taxes, and the general consensus in the state is that property taxes in particular are growing out of control.

$10k/month comes out to $120k/year. To put this into perspective, the median HOUSEHOLD income in the US for 2023 was $80k. The median personal income for that year was $42k. A salary of $167K would put you in the top %10 of earners. Sel's income from Subscribestar alone puts him in the upper middle class, and that's not factoring in any income from his wife.

So he's doing pretty well for himself. He could afford to hire someone to help him, but that's a sucker's bet. Set as much as possible aside for legal expenses in this political climate. Oklahoma is already trying to ban all forms of pornography in that state, and it's likely Texas will try to follow suit.
Fuck USA tax system.

I am not even convinced that this bastard has finally decided to learn his daughter's birthday.
I don't even think he remembers his own birthday.
 

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Followed by less choices and the first instance of freeroam. Well, that should be a good time to call it. This went on for way longer than the previous reset(or chapter change?).
Yeah you're at the actual freeroam now. At least it's not going to suck as much for you as it did when the game was getting updated. Super reduced sandbox and nothing to do in it for a month at a time.
 

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Sel keeping his subscribstar over 10k a month must be some black magic ritual tied to Noriko always keeping her in 2nd place.
 
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