The problem with touka is that she basically already had her character arc and she did finish it. The arc started when she was put with yasu in the same dorm room and it ended when she was able to overcome her fear and did acclimatize to her new environment. And that motherly? Well, just look how much she has to take care of yasu. I dont even understand how that can be any mystery to people. Sel basically just did transplant that onto akira, because that is one of those things he didnt had filled out by that point.
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The "main cast" of the game are just students in Sensei's class. Their plot relevance doesn't have to do with whether or not they're are considered to be in the main cast or not. It's more of a identification thing. I.E Kirin being upgraded to the main cast after being placed into Sensei's class in Chapter 2.
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They never called her motherly until around that time, but there were some parts that felt pretty close to it, like her brushing Yasu's hair and always treating her like a kid, and the way she talked to her from the moment they started to become actual friends or that beach event where she gifts you the flat though less present there.
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Caught up with the game having not played it for like half a year. Knew that Maya was going to eventually be reset but it still made me sad. Interesting to see that her demeanor is pretty similar, obviously way bolder but we were already seeing that side of her by the end of her cicle.
Now focusing on the resets and all that, I've got a question. Do somebody has a theory of when/why they started? an if Maya knew what happened in that original school year before getting reset. I'm going with the assumption that the events during the original school year eventually lead to this cicle of the world reseting and all that. I definitely remeber most agreeing that what started all this was sensei killing himself, but what were the reasons the make him do it? would like to hear what some of have piece together
My theory is that we have already seen some of the original events that happened during that year, not necessarily in order, like Ayane getting pregnant and losing the child (wich is why we see Himawari in some early events), Makoto's dad dying (tho, I'm still nor sure if that war is real or just a covenient plot device). And my theory is that when the girls lived through those events they became aware of the loops. I also believed the school collapsing and the second floor girls getting transferred in was a way for the world to force those girl into the classroom because they originaly were part of it.
Think that's effectively the only real mystery left, most of the past has been pieced together, save for some of the background of the girls.
Now focusing on the resets and all that, I've got a question. Do somebody has a theory of when/why they started? an if Maya knew what happened in that original school year before getting reset. I'm going with the assumption that the events during the original school year eventually lead to this cicle of the world reseting and all that. I definitely remeber most agreeing that what started all this was sensei killing himself, but what were the reasons the make him do it? would like to hear what some of have piece together
My theory is that we have already seen some of the original events that happened during that year, not necessarily in order, like Ayane getting pregnant and losing the child (wich is why we see Himawari in some early events), Makoto's dad dying (tho, I'm still nor sure if that war is real or just a covenient plot device). And my theory is that when the girls lived through those events they became aware of the loops. I also believed the school collapsing and the second floor girls getting transferred in was a way for the world to force those girl into the classroom because they originaly were part of it.
Think that's effectively the only real mystery left, most of the past has been pieced together, save for some of the background of the girls.
It is a test. At least for akira. Now i wonder if we will ever see what the go have to go trough.
Just why cant the masses not come up with endings/explanations that are not a variant of "it was all just a dream? And i highly doubt Sel will go for such a beginner trope.
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Err... that's not the basis of the theory, the idea was Akira committing suicide got the gods involved, possibly as a wish from Maya and the time loop was set up with Akira getting reset like Makoto did in Blue Jay, and now they're in a very real if surreal purgatory. None of it is a dream and if it feels like a cop-out to you then i gotta wonder why when all this has to have been started for some reason, the entities didn't just a rock up one day and decide this specific dude was worth toying with.
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Well that's enough convincing for me. I'm not sure how I managed to ignore the connection with a lot of this. It seems very obvious when contextualised.
Now I'm quite interested in how her knowing Sekai's poetry in the context of her being a shotacon is going to be used between her and Akira in the future.
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Okay, that sounds a bit more reasonable, but i still doubt it. Why? Because of sekai and because of a statement i think from i dont remember who it was, that he has his blackouts already for a long time. And a long time can only mean before the loops started. So the involved of those supernatural weirdos must have happen already before the loops.
And i am not sure that they cared about Makoto herself, but more that she was needed for their little game. Oh, now that i think about it, maybe her dad was "killed off" as punishment, to force them to interven.
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Well, the game starts with you having to jump and then you're 'isekai'd' into a sensei with no memory of your previous life, then there's the happy scene on the roof of the school where Maya says that was their spot to meet and Akira has said he'd jump off a roof if he got someone pregnant (pretty sure about that one) so the theory came about putting all those together, that Maya and Akira met on the roof, she told him she was pregnant, he jumped, she prayed, gods came up with a malicious game, and yeah, that was the theory, some details are just guesses but it fits, so even if you have to fiddle with the details a bit, it fits, no way to know if it's right, but that's the theory, one of many. Agree with it or discard it, i'm only explaining it. As always, DeSkelly can/will fix up anything i got wrong or missed.Okay, that sounds a bit more reasonable, but i still doubt it. Why? Because of sekai and because of a statement i think from i dont remember who it was, that he has his blackouts already for a long time. And a long time can only mean before the loops started. So the involved of those supernatural weirdos must have happen already before the loops.
And i am not sure that they cared about Makoto herself, but more that she was needed for their little game. Oh, now that i think about it, maybe her dad was "killed off" as punishment, to force them to interven.
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Not to my knowledge. I know some of them have been posted to
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Please be Cards Against Humanity...
You know, you can take things from a story too literally. And that any from of isekaiing took place is nothing but baseless speculation. At least i am not convinced by what i would call circumstantial evidence at best.
Especially not when everytime that we have seen him feel really bad, akira didnt turn to self destruction but to total resignation. To retreat. Turning passive. That is not how you let a character act, that has started everything by commiting suicide, which wouldnt be a passive act.
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I dunno what to tell you man, i was just telling you what the theory was, not trying to convert you to it. Agree, disagree, makes no difference to me.
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Question anything and everything in LiL! Otoha's color changing tie?? Rin having shit luck in her love life, is it plot or is it something else???? Sensei wearing a dark grey shirt instead of a white shirt does it represent the darkness in his heart or did he wear because its cold outside?? So many unanswered questions.......
Following that Ami discussion, I went back and looked at a few of her events, and yeah - if you put aside the fact that there's a lot of filler that sort of dilutes it, her character is probably one of the most solid in the series thematically.
Point One: Ami is still deeply traumatized about her parent's death - and while Sensei does make her somewhat less lonely, it's something she's nowhere even close to getting over.
Point Two: Ami's struggle to move forward has manifested as severe abandonment issues. The fear of being left alone, akin to how her parents left her when they passed away, deeply haunts her.
Point Three: Ami's abandonment issues manifest in various ways. Firstly, her intense desire to ensure her uncle's safety borders on psychotic, especially when Sensei's health deteriorates, leading her to believe that everyone around them is a threat.
Though, keep in mind that taking care of him in these sort of "episodes" is very damaging towards Ami. In one of the earlier scenes, Ami comes home after a normal day at school and finds her Uncle in the middle of a breakdown, and you can see how terrified she is. But ultimately, she needs to stay strong for him.
As the game progresses and Ami's fear of abandonment intensifies, her struggle to cope with her Uncle's episodes becomes more evident. She often talks to herself, invents imaginary conversations with Sensei, and even experiences auditory hallucinations.
Point Four: Another manifestation of Ami's struggle is her attempt to embody what Sensei desires - Sekai. This involves emulating Sekai's appearance and behavior, as evidenced by her recent foray into poetry.
Ami's desires reveal an inherent contradiction:
But, this falls apart when Ami realizes that these two things are not necessarily compatible nor possible.
When Sensei's spends an entire weekend ignoring Ami, she has a mental breakdown consumed by the fear that he might have gotten hurt. This also exacerbates the abandonment fears that have been growing within her for some time. Ami seems to equate love to sacrifice, and in a sort-of symbolic act of desperation, she resorts to cutting her hair to demonstrate her devotion to Sensei. This drastic gesture is a last-ditch attempt to prevent him from abandoning her.
Sensei does the most active thing he's done the entire game and stops Ami from potentially harming herself. However, in the process, Ami hurts Sensei. And this is so damaging to Ami because of the two points brought up earlier.
She mentions earlier in the game that she is literally incapable of hurting Sensei, which is why she believes that he can only be with her.
But this moment shatters Ami's core belief about her relationship with Sensei and her unique role in his life. The realization that she can hurt him, just like any other person, strikes at the heart of her identity and purpose. She’s no different from the other girls she said would hurt Sensei because they didn’t truly understand him. And this breaks her, as it destroys her purpose and “special” position as his niece as well as that dream mentioned earlier.
That's kinda at the state where we're at with Ami, but I'm very excited about how she'll be able to overcome these issues.
Point One: Ami is still deeply traumatized about her parent's death - and while Sensei does make her somewhat less lonely, it's something she's nowhere even close to getting over.
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Point Two: Ami's struggle to move forward has manifested as severe abandonment issues. The fear of being left alone, akin to how her parents left her when they passed away, deeply haunts her.
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Point Three: Ami's abandonment issues manifest in various ways. Firstly, her intense desire to ensure her uncle's safety borders on psychotic, especially when Sensei's health deteriorates, leading her to believe that everyone around them is a threat.
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Though, keep in mind that taking care of him in these sort of "episodes" is very damaging towards Ami. In one of the earlier scenes, Ami comes home after a normal day at school and finds her Uncle in the middle of a breakdown, and you can see how terrified she is. But ultimately, she needs to stay strong for him.
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As the game progresses and Ami's fear of abandonment intensifies, her struggle to cope with her Uncle's episodes becomes more evident. She often talks to herself, invents imaginary conversations with Sensei, and even experiences auditory hallucinations.
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Point Four: Another manifestation of Ami's struggle is her attempt to embody what Sensei desires - Sekai. This involves emulating Sekai's appearance and behavior, as evidenced by her recent foray into poetry.
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Ami's desires reveal an inherent contradiction:
- Ami doesn't want to be lonely and wants Sensei to never leave her side due to her abandonment issues.
- But she also wants Sensei to stay safe and mentally well and not end up damaged or hurt.
But, this falls apart when Ami realizes that these two things are not necessarily compatible nor possible.
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When Sensei's spends an entire weekend ignoring Ami, she has a mental breakdown consumed by the fear that he might have gotten hurt. This also exacerbates the abandonment fears that have been growing within her for some time. Ami seems to equate love to sacrifice, and in a sort-of symbolic act of desperation, she resorts to cutting her hair to demonstrate her devotion to Sensei. This drastic gesture is a last-ditch attempt to prevent him from abandoning her.
Sensei does the most active thing he's done the entire game and stops Ami from potentially harming herself. However, in the process, Ami hurts Sensei. And this is so damaging to Ami because of the two points brought up earlier.
She mentions earlier in the game that she is literally incapable of hurting Sensei, which is why she believes that he can only be with her.
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But this moment shatters Ami's core belief about her relationship with Sensei and her unique role in his life. The realization that she can hurt him, just like any other person, strikes at the heart of her identity and purpose. She’s no different from the other girls she said would hurt Sensei because they didn’t truly understand him. And this breaks her, as it destroys her purpose and “special” position as his niece as well as that dream mentioned earlier.
That's kinda at the state where we're at with Ami, but I'm very excited about how she'll be able to overcome these issues.
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