barglenarglezous

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Chinami also drops most of the third person speak during the care package and the latest bath scene. She's doing a lot of acting for people in general and dropping it around Akira. She's definitely not innocent like Tsukasa's dialogue in failsafe shows Tsukasa to be (That or Tsukasa has been coached on what to say, which could be a thing considering her mother but the Tsukasa facade hasn't broken anywhere else if there is a facade)
While this is a possible reading, it's also possible that was never Chinami's mask slipping at all, and it was Himawari in the scene the whole time. She does have a history of breaking character (but in this case, she kept her form, likely because she knew Chika's return was imminent)

I was going to leave it there, but Chika's dialogue afterward was also a little interesting. Looking closer it seems she actually has a problem with Sensei and Chinami in the bath, before the rabies overwrites her again. Look at her 3 faces.

With her older sister being obviously manipulated by something. It wouldn't surprise me if the younger sister is getting manipulated too. Even Chinami's face drops once Chika has the over the top reaction. It would make it another family being the target of some extra purpose in the simulation.
This doesn't read as Chika being upset, but as shocked. Seeing Akira behave paternally at all IS shocking. It caught her off guard. She went kawaii because it plays into her fantasy about what a future with him would look like.
 

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Regarding the wizards, I don't know if it was addressed since the last update, but it was the second time Selebus made it seem sex with Chinami happens after she grows up.

First it was in a care package, but now it's Chinami saying something akin to having him take her as a lover after she grows up (since it would be fine then), and it is Akira saying that it would still be wrong because he'd be cheating on Chika. But again, it's Akira saying it would be wrong.

Maybe we'll only truly have Chinami, Tsukasa and Nao during Purity Routes with teenager versions. I'd be thankful for that.

Edit: Also, what Riolol said. There's no doubt in my mind Uta will have amazing sex from the get-go. She just exudes quiet girl, beast in the bedroom energy.
Nao doesn't have an alt model and Sel has expressed she won't be getting one.
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So after she gets her guaranteed h scene during her purity route she'll probably hold up the "I'm to young to love you" sign and cease to exist.

As for teenage Tsukasa and Chinami I agree that we will see them during their respective purity routes. But knowing the Dark Route will be the chapter where "things don't quite work out how you may have wanted or expected them to" we are more than likely going to see Sensei defile one if not all the wizards in their current form.
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Nao doesn't have an alt model and Sel has expressed she won't be getting one.
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So after she gets her guaranteed h scene during her purity route she'll probably hold up the "I'm to young to love you" sign and cease to exist.

As for teenage Tsukasa and Chinami I agree that we will see them during their respective purity routes. But knowing the Dark Route will be the chapter where "things don't quite work out how you may have wanted or expected them to" we are more than likely going to see Sensei defile one if not all the wizards in their current form.
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Selebus says Nao doesn't have an alt.

Nao's actual designation is template 9. There are 8 alts of her already, Selebus, play your damn game :ROFLMAO:
 
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Detective Dc345

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If all three wizards have sex before the so called dark route, it will eventually get to a point where the entire dark route should be covered in just one update :ROFLMAO:

the hell is even left
Karin getting raped, Wakana being paralyzed from Sensei's penis, Ami murdering Niki, Himawari fucking up and having to spend eternity fending off her dad's sexual advances, The Nakayamas not even existing in the first place, Yuki overdosing, Sekai taking complete control of Kaori's body, Ghost Sekai comes back to life and now there's two Sekais, etc.
 

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While this is a possible reading, it's also possible that was never Chinami's mask slipping at all, and it was Himawari in the scene the whole time.
Are you telling me, hang on, get your glasses ready to read this folks, are you telling me that in this fanfiction Himawari is shapeshifting as Chinami for a whole scene just so that her dad can wash her hair???? :ROFLMAO:

hell if that wouldn't be one of the most adorable scenes in LiL if true. I want this now.
 

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Are you telling me, hang on, get your glasses ready to read this folks, are you telling me that in this fanfiction Himawari is shapeshifting as Chinami for a whole scene just so that her dad can wash her hair???? :ROFLMAO:

hell if that wouldn't be one of the most adorable scenes in LiL if true. I want this now.
Imagine if some of H-scenes already were done by Himawari.
 

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People love making predictions to the dark route about Sekai possessing Kaori, but nobody remembers Kaori's soft spot.
 
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While this is a possible reading, it's also possible that was never Chinami's mask slipping at all, and it was Himawari in the scene the whole time.
That's a possibility I can't account for, but personally I think it'd be a shame if it was Himawari. Dirty thoughts aside yeah it could be cute she was trying for a father daughter moment, but it'd also mean that Chinami herself is getting even less scenes than the wizards usually get.
 

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Imagine if some of H-scenes already were done by Himawari.
Imagine if all the h scenes — all the scenes — are just Himawari. Maybe the whole simulation is just Himawari shapeshifting from one body she knows Akira will like to another, because... dunno... He's in a coma and she's just trying to spend time with her dad? :unsure:

ETA: And the Happy Scenes are just his brain short-circuiting, and the gods are just aspects of his unconscious/subconscious mind — Hope = Ego, Wires = Superego/Persona, Pareidolia = Id/Shadow? And... and...

Nah. :)
 
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LoveRedHairedGirl

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Imagine if all the h scenes — all the scenes — are just Himawari. Maybe the whole simulation is just Himawari shapeshifting from one body she knows Akira will like to another, because... dunno... He's in a coma and she's just trying to spend time with her dad? :unsure:

ETA: And the Happy Scenes are just his brain short-circuiting, and the gods are just aspects of his unconscious/subconscious mind — Hope = Ego, Wires = Superego/Persona, Pareidolia = Id/Shadow? And... and...

Nah. :)
H: "Shit, my dad's still in a coma.... Mum is so sad that he's no longer with us..." *Looks around* "I wanna ride him though."
 

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Honestly, I think Himawari has some traits that tend to give her away.

For example: she's not exactly the best at her job:
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Or jobs considering she's been a Scarf Salesperson at the Mall, a Waitress at some French restaurant, and a Melon Salesperson at the New Years Festival.

Sensei has seen through her as Sana as well:
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She tends to slip up.

Some other tells/traits that seem to belong to her:
  • Doesn't actually seem to understand things, like the Resets, or what's going on.
  • Has a desire for a designated cafeteria and has coworkers. Also eats Ramen.
  • Has a connection to Sunflowers, Sensei, and Ayane.
  • Has a fondness for Spanish related things. (Like Ayane.)
  • Has a reason (to or) not to reveal certain things, which is implied to affect her future.
  • Has blue eyes. (And probably likes blue considering it seems to be her color of choice)
  • Is a Narrator.
  • Isn't interested in a sexual relationship with Sensei.
  • Is very positive and hopeful.
  • Is working with and seemingly specifically protecting Ayane.
  • Etc
There's probably other things like wanting to see things restored, not being the best at poetry, being jealous of Yumi's boobs, and being scared of Sekai, but those aren't entirely proven to be her, even if they seem likely to be her.

Overall: I think Sel would give at least a notable hint at her being there, instead of another character. It'd be up to the player to decipher it, though.

I'm still curious what was up with the whole offering Sensei some Goat urine to drink, thing, though:
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Maybe she was trying to cleanse Sensei from something without being obvious about it?

There's also the whole Ami clone thing, but I don't think that's something we'll understand until we're supposed to.
 

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Look at that ranking. Ridiculous. Otoha easily ranks last on my tier list.
Otoha tends to be a little dull and often contradictory, a bit annoying at times even, but she is not that bad all things considered.
Looks wise though, she is arguably in the top 5 I would say. There's also the thing about her being super popular at her old school, which kind of implies that she is supposedly very cool and pretty.
Also, look at her butt. Mmh yes.
 

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Otoha has buns, yes. But something about her strikes me as too masculine to be attractive. I also dislike her as a person enough that her lewdibility doesn't register. That might change once she gets more screen time.
Trying to remember if we have even seen her undressed at any point.
 
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