DeSkel15

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When it comes to "normal" or "common" girls, I'd probably consider Futaba and Kirin the most realistic girls on average.

Chika and Otoha would be two extremes, in a way:
  • Chika:
    • Who desperately wants security and love and has to work her ass off because her parents are gone, and she has a kid and friend (Yumi) to take care of.
  • Otoha:
    • Who wants more than just security and love and doesn't have to do anything because her parents and friend (Nodoka) actually care about her future, and have made sure to get her whatever she wants or might need.
The irony of them both being involved with a certain girl's heart (Rin), and crushing over the same Idol (Niki), while having entirely different lives and different relationships with Sensei, isn't lost on me. Otoha even wants a little brother while Chika has a little sister.

Otoha also struggles to take care of herself without her parents around, unsure of how to feed herself, while Chika has basically became a parent and makes sure to feed her little sister and herself, and Yumi when she can.

Otoha even seems to prefer younger boys while Chika prefers older men, and they both like girls, just probably not as much as they like specific males.

They're somewhat opposites, which may have been the point. In conclusion:
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All this debate over liking her, hating her, being indifferent to her... ya'll wanna see that girl get folded into a pretzel and stuffed with cream in both ends until she looks 9 months pregnant so i don't really see the point in going over it with a fine-tooth comb, yeah yeah, shitty person, typical teenager, now let's get to the crossed-eyed, tongue-out mindbreak already...
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Man this just made me realize that I don't think I've ever eaten a single pretzel my entire life (and it's completely possible where I live) the images makes them seem like a delightful thing to eat except one image
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Ya know, I just thought, if gods are tied to the moons and iirc paranormal shit (or at least extra paranormal) happens a shitton/usually (not exclusively) at night, when there is a moon, then the fuck will happen if a solar eclipse happens?
Maybe that's how an Ami is born.

Assuming the Moon is Sekai or a representation of her, which might be why Ami wants to bring the Moon back:
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And that may be why the 3 moons remind Sensei of "her" presumably, according to Nodoka's love story:
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On the other hand, I'm not entirely sure who the Sun is supposed to be, yet. Possibly either Akira or Nozomu. Maybe Tsubasa...somehow. Need more intel, or I've just missed certain info.
Man this just made me realize that I don't think I've ever eaten a single pretzel my entire life (and it's completely possible where I live) the images makes them seem like a delightful thing to eat except one image
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Did not expect for Pretzels to be ruined for me today. What a world...
 

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All of those Otoha discussion harkens me back to one thing. While I definitely don't endorse her gradual depravation, but to those who considers Otoha not "important":
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Sometimes Otoha feels really like a total antithesis to Akira who always looms in self-pity and self-deprecation. Instead she has a great potential of hubris so that she takes everything as granted. Yet their decision is identical.
 
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Random question. If 2 girls of the main cast had to switch personalities which two would be a perfect swap? (for example if Ami behaved like Yasu and Yasu behaved like Ami)
 
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Random question. If 2 girls of the main cast had to switch personalities which two would be a perfect swap? (for example if Ami behaved like Yasu and Yasu behaved like Ami)
Man now I'm wondering about Yumi and Nodoka, just how the hell would that be like?
By the way if it was instead side cast, I'd go for Chinami and Tsukasa, Chinami would definitely start Chinami Corp while Tsukasa will get parental attention she needs by Chika.
 

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Assuming the Moon is Sekai or a representation of her, which might be why Ami wants to bring the Moon back
(if not very into theorizing, I recommend skipping this one)

I've mentioned this before, but bringing the moon back makes even more sense if Sekai initially never died. Her death would be related to reset stuff, by having Maya exist, which would in turn make her die. So, while it could be "impossible" to change the real world, it would be more possible to change/change back what was altered by the fake world in the first place.
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Anyway, just food for thought. Maybe some of it makes sense.
 
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Okay I am totally at a loss...I just finished the final necessary event (Karin, If Only) according to wiki and cannot get "There is Nothing" as part of the first Christmas chain/events. Ive tried using a save analyzer guide tool from reddit and it is no help at all and the weirdest part is, I tried completely deleting the game folders and copying my saves to a diff backup folder and reinstalling...but when I extract the new installation and run it for the first time (before even transferring my saves over) it automatically has ALL of my old saves somehow. Are the saves not actually kept in the save folder?
IIRC there are other saves at: "C:\Users\"Your Username"\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\Test2-1577602671

I'd probably consider Futaba and Kirin the most realistic girls on average
Ah yes, Kirin the most average girl, i remember when half my class met my teacher in private to show him their panties xd And also traumatize a classmate by jerking the teacher while fucking her.

Nodoka and Kirin
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(i mean not the same but both are perverts)
 
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When it comes to "normal" or "common" girls, I'd probably consider Futaba and Kirin the most realistic girls on average.
I agree with you on lots of things but what the fuck :ROFLMAO:

How is a 15 year old that flashes and proposes a quid pro quo relationship with her ? (not even teacher at the time) without even having her first kiss is realistic? Not even counting the sexual assault/blackmailing, AGAIN before even her first kiss.

Edit: I'm now confused on the timeline and it's possible that the kiss comes before the blackmailing, but the blackmailing can definitily come before the handjob if you refuse it.
 
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Edit: I'm now confused on the timeline and it's possible that the kiss comes before the blackmailing, but the blackmailing can definitily come before the handjob if you refuse it.
Her first kiss, if my memory serve me well, happen during the soirée with Sensei.
So way after all her blackmailing...
 
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Her first kiss, if my memory serve me well, happen during the soirée with Sensei.
So way after all her blackmailing...
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This takes place after the beachtrip, so yes, I was initially correct. The blackmail happens before the first kiss. The blackmail also happens after she gives you a handjob, but that's missable without straying from green path, so it's debatable.
 
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Ah yes, Kirin the most average girl, i remember when half my class met my teacher in private to show him their panties xd And also traumatize a classmate by jerking the teacher while fucking her.
I agree with you on lots of things but what the fuck :ROFLMAO:

How is a 15 year old that flashes and proposes a quid pro quo relationship with her ? (not even teacher at the time) without even having her first kiss is realistic? Not even counting the sexual assault/blackmailing, AGAIN before even her first kiss.

Edit: I'm now confused on the timeline and it's possible that the kiss comes before the blackmailing, but the blackmailing can definitily come before the handjob if you refuse it.
I knew like 5 girls that'd flirt with Teachers, Drug Dealers, and Police, to get what they wanted, growing up. They'd also typically have boyfriends on top of that.

I know for sure, one was pregnant (I mean, the belly was an obvious give away). Can't tell you if the Teacher was the daddy, though.

I'm also not the social type even if people tended to group up around me. That's just from casual observation. (Albeit, I did tend to be around the "bad kids" and boy would the girls in LiL be different if Men and Drugs weren't so suspiciously absent in this game for the most part.)

Anyway, I definitely don't see Kirin as anything special in any way, shape, or form.

I'd think most girls in her position would do similar. She really just wants attention, and it's not like Sensei was a random person. She already had a good idea that he was a pervert (and one at an all girls school), and Ayane was someone she's had a petty grudge, and a crush on, for likely years, then the opportunity presented itself. If that opportunity never did, then they're still friends.

Hence why optionally, Kirin and Ayane are still friends. At least, until next update, lmao.
 
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