Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

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Tommykjohnson1990 said:
Has anyone started gathering everything from this game to make it into a vn?
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Maybe it's me but the 'illusion of choice' from the sandbox option does give a lot of (heavy quotation) "Value" to this game. I understand most people on this site genuinely recoil at the sandbox tag and to support your idea there's an absurd amount of story that is tied behind random affection value that could very well be consolidated into a few route choices overall and split fine enough to make a mildly competent VN. If i recall the reason chain events keep happening now is because Sele regrets making it a sandbox with affection levels in the first place. (But He's also a bastard who locks events behind his fictional point system anyway so???)

Maybe it's stockholm syndrome, maybe it's the fact that stumbling onto a happy event or just taking your time to give people 400 headpats feels awkwardly rewarding for genuinely no reason other than making my finger a little bit sore (that's what she said) You get the awkward freedom to interact with which characters you actually want to interact with and get a fun number to showcase that fact (URM go brrr tho).
 
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barglenarglezous said:
The "care packages" are like DVD bonus features. They're generally not worth it, but if you're curious about them, download them and save them in a seperate folder, don't install them to the game at all. Then you can just go into the files and view them without having to worry about the DRM. If you install them and don't apply the DRM fix, the game will delete your saves. It's not worth the risk (especially because he can decide to tweak the DRM at any time and the fix may not work on future updates).
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Thank you this has been helpful, do i need to worry about DRM for the game itself too or is possible flags later down the line it?
 
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Moonflare said:
Just filling new people in as to why today is important.

December 28 is the day we assume the resets started/the world "ended". And from the newspapers on the windows, it might had to do with some sort of disaster happening.
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Himawari being born on December 28 could be because the entire game happens on this day (my personal guess). I see no other candidate for being the paradox, and also, Himawari has to run away from "untitled" (following event), because of a paradox related to her name.
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I would imagine she would run away from the player's choice. She was almost named Chester Thunder Weiner the Loathsome Penis out of spite because of Tsuneyo's Franklin Deleware Roosevelt question.
 
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Venerable Hermit said:
Thank you this has been helpful, do i need to worry about DRM for the game itself too or is possible flags later down the line it?
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Right now, the way the DRM works is that when you load the game, it checks to see if you have the care packages installed, and if you do, it queries a database to see if your copy of the care package is "legit" or not. If not, saves go bye-bye. If yes, nothing happens and the game runs as normal.

It has false-negatived people before. At least one subscriber who downloaded the packages directly from Sel lost his saves, so the code isn't perfect, but if you don't have the care packages in the game folders, you should be fine. At the moment, that's all it does.

Also, Sel is not a skilled coder, so the DRM was outsourced to someone else. Since he likes to fly solo as much as possible, I doubt it will be changed significantly, but there's always a chance he'll get fed up with us existing again and try something. But as of this writing, the DRM only kicks in if the care packages are installed in the game.
 
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throwawaysponge said:
Maybe it's me but the 'illusion of choice' from the sandbox option does give a lot of (heavy quotation) "Value" to this game.
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I generally agree with this idea. Renpy style games could do without the grinding, but having definite stops to do things at the players own pace, or access repeatables, secondary gameplay elements or such adds something to the experience. It's mostly monkey brain logic, but the illusion of choice makes it still feel somewhat like a game, rather than just reading.

LiL is probably one of the worst examples for it, though. No hints, many events obscurely hidden, a huge number of them only trigger on specific days, grinding for point requirements to start them rather than just click to start the next part, no secondary gameplay elements other than the repeatables which only get variation maybe once per chapter. And the ever present concern that the next event will lock you into a long chain with an obnoxious puzzle.
I recall someone referring to LiL's gameplay loop as hostile, which I think is pretty accurate.
 
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Moonflare said:
December 28 is the day we assume the resets started/the world "ended".
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I don't remember seeing an argument for this, can you explain or point me to a post that goes into more detail?

For what it's worth, the name of the slumber party event is misleading. The party itself and the reset happen on the night of Dec 30.
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barglenarglezous said:
Sana has social anxiety.

Karin is fine talking about romance, but not sex, and she's NOT fine talking Romance with/about Akira, specifically, because she's infatuated with him.
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This got me thinking about Sana’s anxiety. Specifically, how her unbelievably high, wildly kinky libido combined with her bisexuality must make every interaction agonizing.

And THAT got me thinking about who was the lust queen of LiL. Which of the ladies is actually most controlled by desire?

And THAT got me thinking:

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Obviously, all of those are up for debate. Thoughts?
 
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Antosha said:
This got me thinking about Sana’s anxiety. Specifically, how her unbelievably high, wildly kinky libido combined with her bisexuality must make every interaction agonizing.

And THAT got me thinking about who was the lust queen of LiL. Which of the ladies is actually most controlled by desire?

And THAT got me thinking:

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Obviously, all of those are up for debate. Thoughts?
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Interesting idea. I mostly agree with your takes, with a few exceptions.
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Moonflare said:
December 28 is the day we assume the resets started/the world "ended". And from the newspapers on the windows, it might had to do with some sort of disaster happening.
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As exciting as it sounds, the resident buzzkill here must inform you that the newspaper there is a school infirmary bulletin, providing information and guideline regarding norovirus-induced infectious diarrhea (not even news about a recent outburst; that's just some routine educational information during appropriate seasons). This has to be one of the preexisting assets. If Selly really used it to represent something like an apocalypse newspaper, it's too hilarious of an idea for people that can read that prop, implying the world is coming to an end due to mass shitting.

My guess is that this is a similar presentation seen in Meant to Be, where Kumon-mi is undergoing some procedures during a reset. Thus it's only for indicating the world outside now isn't normal, and the content of those bulletins is of no significance.
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