Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

is there any possible to open the game faster, i don't why it always took me 5minutes to open it, for others novel game like twisted word and fantasy opposite normaly just 1 second, need help to fix it bruh

I have the game on an HD and it takes me around 20-25 seconds to load, which I find slow tbh. Maybe it's cause LiL loads everything on the "background" instead of those games that show you a loading screen.

Inside joke is that both times I measured it, it took 23 seconds to load (...) - If this is by design, so help me god, Selebus.

Nevertheless, if other renpy games of comparable size take much less to load, it might do you good to have a fresh install of LiL (if that isn't the case already). 5 minutes is insane.

 

[Bingoogus]

I have the game on an HD and it takes me around 20-25 seconds to load, which I find slow tbh. Maybe it's cause LiL loads everything on the "background" instead of those games that show you a loading screen.

Inside joke is that both times I measured it, it took 23 seconds to load (...) - If this is by design, so help me god, Selebus.

Nevertheless, if other renpy games of comparable size take much less to load, it might do you good to have a fresh install of LiL (if that isn't the case already). 5 minutes is insane.

It's not just the images, as i understand it the game's engine will compile all .rpy files into .rpyc files every time you load the game, this is one of the ways that Renpy makes it easy to add to or mod the game, just throw an .rpy in and reload, but it does mean, with how many .rpy files LiL has and how long many of them are that it's basically recompiling a lot of the game on every boot for no reason. I do know you can take previously compiled .rpy files out to speed things up, but i found it too finicky for too small a gain, easier to just double click the .exe and do something else for a minute or two, enjoy the music when it finally loads.

 

[shmurfer]

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is there any possible to open the game faster, i don't why it always took me 5minutes to open it, for others novel game like twisted word and fantasy opposite normaly just 1 second, need help to fix it bruh

Not really. Pretty sure you're playing the largest renpy visual novel made, if not the largest visual novel period. You're gonna have to make some concessions.

But it also only takes me 20 seconds or so to load. If you're patching from a very old version of the game, you should really redownload the whole game from scratch since the renpy upgrade did improve loading times. I've gotten into the habit of preclicking the game and then finishing the video / post I was making or reading.

 

[canaan0128]

my computer is like hmmm 4060 even its not the newest type but i still thinks is other problem？this time I restart the pc and open it 5 times its all go as background program, until i finish cooking the lunch back to my bebroom hell yes 5 of the game on my screen, i guess this time is like more than 20minutes..... how？why？o(╥﹏╥)o

 

[canaan0128]

today is the first time I know and try the game, I straight go and download the 0.46 version

 

[canaan0128]

我在高清上玩这个游戏，大约需要20-25秒才能加载，说实话我觉得很慢。也许是因为LiL在“后台”加载所有内容，而不是那些加载屏幕的游戏。

内心的笑话是，我两次测量时，都花了23秒来加载（...） - 如果这是设计使然，那么上帝保佑我，塞莱布斯。

不过，如果其他同等大小的renpy游戏加载时间短，那么全新安装LiL可能会给你带来好处（如果还没有这样做的话）。5分钟太疯狂了。
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I have the game on an HD and it takes me around 20-25 seconds to load, which I find slow tbh. Maybe it's cause LiL loads everything on the "background" instead of those games that show you a loading screen.

Inside joke is that both times I measured it, it took 23 seconds to load (...) - If this is by design, so help me god, Selebus.

Nevertheless, if other renpy games of comparable size take much less to load, it might do you good to have a fresh install of LiL (if that isn't the case already). 5 minutes is insane.

thats.....a good point, it is always stay in background a huge time period，and I just sit there try not to sleep

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

I think the mc is full of shit.

You just realized? XD

I never realized how... white Wakana is. Makes sense tho.

Even more white than the only actual white person in a game (Molly)

Oh you know who would have the biggest dick out of the D&D girls. Sana of course!

Bingoogus agrees

 

[SlidingSubject]

my computer is like hmmm 4060 even its not the newest type but i still thinks is other problem？this time I restart the pc and open it 5 times its all go as background program, until i finish cooking the lunch back to my bebroom hell yes 5 of the game on my screen, i guess this time is like more than 20minutes..... how？why？o(╥﹏╥)o

Weird then. I have a 3060 that I'm pretty sure I didn't even configure well. What's your RAM? I have 16GB but I pretty much always play while doing other stuff, so a good quarter of that is always in use.

Also, I just noticed it really is 23 seconds. Holy.

 

[canaan0128]

Weird then. I have a 3060 that I'm pretty sure I didn't even configure well. What's your RAM? I have 16GB but I pretty much always play while doing other stuff, so a good quarter of that is always in use.

Also, I just noticed it really is 23 seconds. Holy.

Well atleast Ima now in the game so i will enjoy first. few questions before start!! Is this game overall more of a cheerful slice-of-life style, or does it lean towards a dark tone filled with depression and sadness? Did the protagonist really travel through time, or is it some kind of... brainwashing or dream? (If it doesn't involve spoilers.) bruh... recently read some romance novels with bad endings, and I really need something to cure me. Especially since LIL updates almost every month or every couple of months. It feels like the creator of this game must either love it deeply or be a full-time developer. Compared to the painfully slow update pace of other similar visual novels, LIL truly a fresh air!

 

[canaan0128]

Well atleast Ima now in the game so i will enjoy first. few questions before start!! Is this game overall more of a cheerful slice-of-life style, or does it lean towards a dark tone filled with depression and sadness? Did the protagonist really travel through time, or is it some kind of... brainwashing or dream? (If it doesn't involve spoilers.) bruh... recently read some romance novels with bad endings, and I really need something to cure me. Especially since LIL updates almost every month or every couple of months. It feels like the creator of this game must either love it deeply or be a full-time developer. Compared to the painfully slow update pace of other similar visual novels, LIL truly a fresh air!

And since I only decide to play the KoiKatsu style novels, not much opinions i guess

 

[hopeisdead6969]

Well atleast Ima now in the game so i will enjoy first. few questions before start!! Is this game overall more of a cheerful slice-of-life style, or does it lean towards a dark tone filled with depression and sadness? Did the protagonist really travel through time, or is it some kind of... brainwashing or dream? (If it doesn't involve spoilers.) bruh... recently read some romance novels with bad endings, and I really need something to cure me. Especially since LIL updates almost every month or every couple of months. It feels like the creator of this game must either love it deeply or be a full-time developer. Compared to the painfully slow update pace of other similar visual novels, LIL truly a fresh air!

The game is oppressively serious and dark. There are many wonderful slice of life moments, but the meat and bones is a dark journey. I don't think saying anything about plot is a good idea given the nature of this VN. Needless to say, years later, we have thousands of posts still trying to parse the story fully up to this point. Give it a shot, see if it clicks, and if not, no worries. For those of us that this game gets its claws into, though, its unlike anything else out there. For those that don't click with it, then its no big deal to move on. Best I can say is this:

Don't go into this like an H game. Go into this expecting a story with sex in it, and any time you're given an option to make a choice, it isn't like a normal H game; its an indictment upon you and H games as whole.

Good luck on your journey! And if its not for you, no worries. If it DOES click though...we'll see you again soon...

EDTIT: Oh, and of course...Remember to Smile.

 

[SmallsMalone]

The stuff nightmares are made of:
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I hate this event so much. It's infuriating to navigate.

Good Evening. Your suffering inspired me to make something terrible. I hope you hate it. (It probably has mistakes, but I gotta stop messing with it for now.)

 

[SlidingSubject]

everything

If you're truly starting, I recommend you also install both the hints mod and the save mod, though they're optional.
About the game, if you want some healing, this isn't for you. Like, seriously, it really isn't. Or maybe it is? It heavily features sad and uplifting tones, but it also mixes healing and depression with them sometimes. Occassionally all of them at the same time. Again, though, I really wouldn't recommend it if you only want healing like some SoL manga do. But maybe you should? I'd say give it a try and if you can't, then don't force yourself.
Yeah, LiL updates fairly consistently, ten updates, mostly monthly, per year at least. About, the creator, well, let's just say Selebus definitely the game. Period.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

Good Evening. Your suffering inspired me to make something terrible. I hope you hate it. (It probably has mistakes, but I gotta stop messing with it for now.)

Yo though, if it is indeed accurate, it ain't half bad for those of us that don't mess with URM.

 

[canaan0128]

If you're truly starting, I recommend you also install both the hints mod and the save mod, though they're optional.
About the game, if you want some healing, this isn't for you. Like, seriously, it really isn't. Or maybe it is? It heavily features sad and uplifting tones, but it also mixes healing and depression with them sometimes. Occassionally all of them at the same time. Again, though, I really wouldn't recommend it if you only want healing like some SoL manga do. But maybe you should? I'd say give it a try and if you can't, then don't force yourself.
Yeah, LiL updates fairly consistently, ten updates, mostly monthly, per year at least. About, the creator, well, let's just say Selebus definitely the game. Period.

Thanks, man! I’ve started playing for a bit now, and I’m really into the overall vibe and writing. No worries—I’m fully committed to diving into it. (Though, I did accidentally stumble across some pretty creepy screenshots while scrolling the thread, but hey, still within my tolerance!) Lately, I’ve been playing a lot of super lighthearted and comedic harem games in this genre, so this feels like a refreshing change of pace.

Also, I gotta say, your response time is insane! On other posts, I’d probably wait like 10 hours for a single reply. Super impressed and grateful for that! I’ll definitely stick around and chat with everyone here.

(By the way, did the creator’s Patreon shut down? Is F95 the only place to interact with he now? I really respect devs who pour their heart into their games.)

 

[canaan0128]

The game is oppressively serious and dark. There are many wonderful slice of life moments, but the meat and bones is a dark journey. I don't think saying anything about plot is a good idea given the nature of this VN. Needless to say, years later, we have thousands of posts still trying to parse the story fully up to this point. Give it a shot, see if it clicks, and if not, no worries. For those of us that this game gets its claws into, though, its unlike anything else out there. For those that don't click with it, then its no big deal to move on. Best I can say is this:

Don't go into this like an H game. Go into this expecting a story with sex in it, and any time you're given an option to make a choice, it isn't like a normal H game; its an indictment upon you and H games as whole.

Good luck on your journey! And if its not for you, no worries. If it DOES click though...we'll see you again soon...

EDTIT: Oh, and of course...Remember to Smile.

Honestly, the type of game I’m looking for right now is exactly one with interesting and thought-provoking story, filled with well-developed, multi-dimensional characters. I’m kind of tired of those shorter games that are mostly just H-content—played way too many of those and started to feel a bit burned out. Even if the story’s core is dark, I hope it gives me a sense of fulfillment and leaves me with no regrets about the experience.

Since I’m usually busy with school and work, I’ll probably only have about 1-2 hours to play in the evenings after getting home. Considering how long this game has been in development and the fact that it updates almost every month, it seems like it’ll keep me occupied for a good while

 

[hopeisdead6969]

Honestly, the type of game I’m looking for right now is exactly one with interesting and thought-provoking story, filled with well-developed, multi-dimensional characters. I’m kind of tired of those shorter games that are mostly just H-content—played way too many of those and started to feel a bit burned out. Even if the story’s core is dark, I hope it gives me a sense of fulfillment and leaves me with no regrets about the experience.

Since I’m usually busy with school and work, I’ll probably only have about 1-2 hours to play in the evenings after getting home. Considering how long this game has been in development and the fact that it updates almost every month, it seems like it’ll keep me occupied for a good while

Well, its literally multiple million words long, so its a heck of a read, that's for sure. As for the creator, he got into a beef with this website, so he's gone from here, and the game doesn't show live updates anymore. His Patreon got nuked a long while back for various reasons, so if you want to see the official release, its on Subscribestar. He's a turbo douche, but he is a good writer and very devoted to his work. Here, we separate the art from the artist. Very few here like him as a person, but most, if not all of us, respect his artistry.

 

[canaan0128]

Well, its literally multiple million words long, so its a heck of a read, that's for sure. As for the creator, he got into a beef with this website, so he's gone from here, and the game doesn't show live updates anymore. His Patreon got nuked a long while back for various reasons, so if you want to see the official release, its on Subscribestar. He's a turbo douche, but he is a good writer and very devoted to his work. Here, we separate the art from the artist. Very few here like him as a person, but most, if not all of us, respect his artistry.

oh my, may i ask what he did? The last time I saw a strained relationship between F95 players and a developer was with the creator of Twisted World. He originally spent two years seriously working on the game(and is very good), the content had progressed to version 0.7. But despite protests from most players, they launched a Twisted World remake to rake in easy money on several subscription platforms. A year later, the remake is still stuck at version 0.15, plagued with issues like deceptive updates and negative feedback about the whole reset.

When I downloaded LIL, I skimmed through the first few pages of the post and noticed how actively the creator interacts with players. I thought he’d be really friendly within the fanbase… oops

 

[hopeisdead6969]

oh my, may i ask what he did? The last time I saw a strained relationship between F95 players and a developer was with the creator of Twisted World. He originally spent two years seriously working on the game(and is very good), the content had progressed to version 0.7. But despite protests from most players, they launched a Twisted World remake to rake in easy money on several subscription platforms. A year later, the remake is still stuck at version 0.15, plagued with issues like deceptive updates and negative feedback about the whole reset.

When I downloaded LIL, I skimmed through the first few pages of the post and noticed how actively the creator interacts with players. I thought he’d be really friendly within the fanbase… oops

He used to be chill and helpful. But then things got weird. Money changes people. Hatred of piracy, attempting to get the game taken off the site through nonsense means and going against TOS. Creating DRM to wipe people's saves and generally being a massive dick. Its a long story, but basically it comes down to a massive ego and hatred for those that actually play his game. I wouldn't worry about it, but there's lots of posts about it and folks here who know better than I do.

Basically, however big you think an ego can be, you're wrong; it can be bigger. Ultimately, it seems to have hamstrung his overall growth and monetary potential, but either way, we try to ignore the asshole and embrace the artist ;p

EDIT: Which reminds me: if you plan on doing anything with the "Care Packages," please read about the DRM on them carefully on the first page post. It WILL wipe your saves if you mess up, and it absolutely is NOT worth the content.

 

[shmurfer]

Thanks, man! I’ve started playing for a bit now, and I’m really into the overall vibe and writing. No worries—I’m fully committed to diving into it. (Though, I did accidentally stumble across some pretty creepy screenshots while scrolling the thread, but hey, still within my tolerance!) Lately, I’ve been playing a lot of super lighthearted and comedic harem games in this genre, so this feels like a refreshing change of pace.

That refreshing change of pace is about to hit you as bad as Ezio from AC2 went from a carefree boy to having most of his family killed in the first act of the game. If you can handle that whiplash, you might get hopelessly addicted to the game.

Also, I gotta say, your response time is insane! On other posts, I’d probably wait like 10 hours for a single reply. Super impressed and grateful for that! I’ll definitely stick around and chat with everyone here.

(By the way, did the creator’s Patreon shut down? Is F95 the only place to interact with he now? I really respect devs who pour their heart into their games.)

lmao, mere hours into finding the thread and you found some of the biggest drama. The dev got themselves banned from here, the game has been promotion banned so they don't get most of the audience searching the updates queue finding and supporting the subscribestar that Selebus uses because the content of the game got too 'spicy' for Patreon to handle (and it's only gotten 'worse' from there)

If you ever like the game enough to download the care packages, don't install them into the game. The dev's final act to get the game shadowbanned was adding save deleting DRM to the game if it detects pirated care packages. If you like the game enough to go down the rabbit hole, you should merely read the scripts of the downloaded files, then look at the pictures / videos if relevant.

care packages and bonus animations can be full of spoilers, they assume you were fully up to date at their points of release