Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

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akselx

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alex2011 said:
It still could have been put a bit more nicely, the "aww, what's that?" part, I mean.
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Maybe. I regret nothing, though.

alex2011 said:
I have to disagree on your disagreement, a good developer should always listen to their players. That is not to say do as they tell him, that just means actually paying attention to what they say and addressing any concerns, which Selebus does. Going too far and submitting to the will of the players to the point of doing things in the game as they want, to a large degree specifically, not the occasional player request, is actually a sign of a bad developer. As an example, Innoxia, developer of Lilith's Throne, has been guilty of going too far on listening to players lately, spending far too much time on player requests and not enough on what they want personally to be added or what they already have planned.


That's not the player feedback I'm referring to, what I'm referring to is when he interacts on an in game issue. He's been extremely responsive to issues that might be bug related, which there have been a few, both with version bugs and save bugs, but at the same time, he's not doing the player base's every whim, either.
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That's not really what I'm talking about. Sticking with your vision, even when some people complain about it, addressing concerns, being uber responsive - that's all fine and good. I'm talking about how he gets all defensive and passive aggressive sometimes in his responses. I'm not criticizing it, just saying it's not good for stress reasons and I'm glad he's doing less of it now.

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I mean, that's player Sensei in a nutshell. He's a pretentious, narcissistic, greedy asshole whole does whatever it takes to get what he wants. Of course the writing is a bit pretentious, it comes from player Sensei's point of view. He is both himself and the narrator in this story through his interactions with others and his inner thoughts respectively.
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It doesn't look like narrator is always the person as Sensei. It's hard to distinguish, though.

alex2011 said:
So Geoffrey would exist in a sense because Ayane said so, but not Yumi's father because, while she does mention him, she never mentions interacting during the events of the story? Just trying to get a sense of what you mean by only in their heads.
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It's like pre-installed knowledge. Just like with space war, girls don't question it, they just know about their dads, butlers and such, even when girls don't interact with them, because they (dads and butlers) don't exist. Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see.
 
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akselx said:
Maybe. I regret nothing, though.



That's not really what I'm talking about. Sticking with your vision, even when some people complain about it, addressing concerns, being uber responsive - that's all fine and good. I'm talking about how he gets all defensive and passive aggressive sometimes in his responses. I'm not criticizing it, just saying it's not good for stress reasons and I'm glad he's doing less of it now.



It doesn't look like narrator is always the person as Sensei. It's hard to distinguish, though.



It's like pre-installed knowledge. Just like with space war, girls don't question it, they just know about their dads, butlers and such, even when girls don't interact with them, because they (dads and butlers) don't exist. Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see.
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That's not really what I'm talking about. Sticking with your vision, even when some people complain about it, addressing concerns, being uber responsive - that's all fine and good. I'm talking about how he gets all defensive and passive aggressive sometimes in his responses. I'm not criticizing it, just saying it's not good for stress reasons and I'm glad he's doing less of it now.
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Have you seen some of the comments he replied to in that way, he was giving what he was given, I would have done the same.

It doesn't look like narrator is always the person as Sensei. It's hard to distinguish, though.
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I mean it kind of is, it just may not be the same one we play as. I still hold major stake in my theory that he has a split personality and that's where the USERS come from.

It's like pre-installed knowledge. Just like with space war, girls don't question it, they just know about their dads, butlers and such, even when girls don't interact with them, because they (dads and butlers) don't exist. Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see.
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I see now, though it could also just not get mentioned, not every story mentions what goes on off screen so to speak.

Selebus said:
Hell yeah I like the sound of my voice. It bought me a fucking house.
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Well, I mean, if it's buying you nice things, I would say that's a reason to like it. :p

Cerpin said:
Selebus is secretly Nolan North
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Maybe
 
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alex2011 said:
That's not even possible since Sensei is literally the only male in the game, others are only mentioned...
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It could be possible that Haruka finally snaps and abducts Rin (assuming she doesn’t turn out to be her lost daughter or something).
Or similarly; Maki tends to have something of an obsession with Haruka. But in this case; I’d wish them all the best (and perhaps Sensi gets a regular kitty threesome).

Unless I’m mistaken; nothing says such unsavoury nonsense can’t be girl-get-girl...
 
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Recently I have acquired VR equipment, and having just started on the 16.2 release, I couldn't help but start imagining this as a VR game... I hope that when VR is much more common, and there are tools making it easier to make VR games that Selebus seriously considers recreating this game in VR. The happy scenes would be so much more impactful, and the girls would seem even more like real people than they already do.
 
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Check the reviews. There's quite a few recent reviews that are negative towards the game. I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they're still entitled to their own opinion. Unfortunately, Sel takes them to heart.
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I think you mean fortunately, if you just accept the good and ignore the bad you risk creating an echo chamber.

A good example of this is the beginning portion of this game, it's rough, the game has a very specific tone that i like but others seem to hate, and that's the constant back and forth between vanilla lightheartedness and somewhat dark (and in some cases uncomfortable) scenes.

I love that shit, it reminds me of Cross Days (which probably served as an inspiration for this game).

I wouldn't be surprised if some people start to peel off the further this game goes down that path, it's inevitable, but the bulk will stick by.
 
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Selebus said:
There are several games on this site where you can hear me acting out hardcore gay sex scenes so that's a thing.
Or also in My Time at Portia or Winds of Change (Which is out now on Switch!)
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Who were you in My Time at Portia? That's one of the better games I've played in the last five years

Edit: My guess is Papa Bear
 
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hcguy said:
Imagine thinking piracy isn't wrong.
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Piracy isn't wrong.

alex2011 said:
Yes, and that logic blows the logic that Selebus is making 10k out of the water because, while it may seem small, small problems add up. That isn't devaluing what he makes, it's putting a value on what he isn't, those are two very different things. We're talking a loss of potential income anywhere from $24 to $1200 USD per person a year, which can go a long way toward many a goal. If you have a minimum of $2 per month and you have 10 people who are considering buying in, then they find it for $0 elsewhere, that's $240 to $12,000 in lost potential income. That's a lot of loss.
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It never did and it never will. I don't get how this argument is still able to persist, you'll even see these types of comments on private torrent sites. The SEGA Saturn is a much better example of how piracy can cause actual damage, but to simply speculate on a potential dollar amount of lost revenue is just silly.

I enjoy this game very much and I'm looking forward to paying Selebus upon the completion of this title. I'm sad to hear about this affecting him/her on a personal level, I'd imagine that I would experience strong negative emotions myself despite having a clear stance on piracy not being wrong.
 
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312.206.993 said:
Piracy isn't wrong.
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It's objectively wrong. I don't understand why do people persist in trying to justify them doing it and making up excuses. There are valid reasons for doing it, you do it, I do it, but it's objectively wrong. Were is this need for validation of your life choices comes from?

312.206.993 said:
The amount of dowloads do not equal the number of "lost sales".
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That I wholeheartedly agree on.

312.206.993 said:
I enjoy this game very much and I'm looking forward to paying Selebus upon the completion of this title.
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This is also valid way.

312.206.993 said:
despite having a clear stance on piracy not being wrong.
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You were doing so good, what happened?
 
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