cckerberos

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Evidently, the guide and wiki are wrong as this has happened multiple times. Oh well, just gotta do as much content as possible first I suppose.
They aren't "wrong," per se, you've just run into a version difference.

The guide and wiki are for 0.16.0p2. The Maya event requirement was added in 0.17.0.
 
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God3333

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I know this may sound silly, but I hear people saying that using cheats marks your character save as a cheater which could cause issues later on. Now, I think Renpy is coded in python (which I'll admit is not my area of expertise), but has anyone tried actually finding the variable and switching it or removing the code that looks for signs of cheating?

Assuming the cheater bit is stored locally in the persons own game files surely they could just change the variable and then do an Output cheater status or whatever said variable is caused to check if it updates ingame?

I'll stress, I know little to nothing about python and Renpy, I do Java so python is relatively unknown to me, but does anyone know if this has been tried?

Obviously, finding the code would be a bit of a pain having to unpack everything and search through it, especially if the dev is un-documenting when it comes to code explanation, which would make sense as he's not expecting you to look at the code, but surely this would resolve the possible issue of being marked and it impacting the game

Hmm, if the cheat was constantly running then we'd probably need to remove the code to check if a cheat if active. Like if you turn on god mode the game can see you are actively running the god mode code and can flag that you cheat, however, if you spawned an item in via cheats the flag would only get raised when it was spawned in so logically if you used cheats to set relationship level you'd only have to just change the cheat flag, right?
 
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I don't suppose someone could provide the v17 Progress and Guide mod somewhere other than F95Zone (nopy, for example)? The attachment server's down and I can't grab the zip. :-(

EDIT: Well, I'm off to bed. Perhaps the server'll be fixed in the morn.
 
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I know this may sound silly, but I hear people saying that using cheats marks your character save as a cheater which could cause issues later on.
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Don't overthink it, there's nothing elaborate about it. Whole source code is in readable form, you don't even need to unpack anything (not that it would be a major obstacle). There's variable named "cheater" and it currently does nothing, except being set to true when you use cheats. Only author knows (maybe) whether it will do something in future. And if it does and it's evil or annoying, I'm sure it will be fixed very quickly.
 

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Don't overthink it, there's nothing elaborate about it. Whole source code is in readable form, you don't even need to unpack anything (not that it would be a major obstacle). There's variable named "cheater" and it currently does nothing, except being set to true when you use cheats. Only author knows (maybe) whether it will do something in future. And if it does and it's evil or annoying, I'm sure it will be fixed very quickly.
Yea thought so, thanks.
 

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Get Ayane and Kirin lust to 15+ and lets hope you did not missed Prisoner event (lust 10+ with Ayane, at the beach)
 

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PDF guides updated to 0.16.0p2. Guide mod updated to 0.17.0.
Does cckerberos Guide mod include a Gallery Unlocker? I notice that the separate gallery unlocker thread includes a v17 unlocker, that works via a modded screens.rpy file , and then I see that this Guide mod also includes a screens.rpy and so I can't use both, right?
 
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alex2011

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I know this may sound silly, but I hear people saying that using cheats marks your character save as a cheater which could cause issues later on. Now, I think Renpy is coded in python (which I'll admit is not my area of expertise), but has anyone tried actually finding the variable and switching it or removing the code that looks for signs of cheating?

Assuming the cheater bit is stored locally in the persons own game files surely they could just change the variable and then do an Output cheater status or whatever said variable is caused to check if it updates ingame?

I'll stress, I know little to nothing about python and Renpy, I do Java so python is relatively unknown to me, but does anyone know if this has been tried?

Obviously, finding the code would be a bit of a pain having to unpack everything and search through it, especially if the dev is un-documenting when it comes to code explanation, which would make sense as he's not expecting you to look at the code, but surely this would resolve the possible issue of being marked and it impacting the game

Hmm, if the cheat was constantly running then we'd probably need to remove the code to check if a cheat if active. Like if you turn on god mode the game can see you are actively running the god mode code and can flag that you cheat, however, if you spawned an item in via cheats the flag would only get raised when it was spawned in so logically if you used cheats to set relationship level you'd only have to just change the cheat flag, right?
I have little doubt Selebus thought of this possibility and already has more traps in place for anyone who tries, it would actually surprise me if he didn't given how fond of consequences he is, not that that's a bad thing, I personally love it because it's an extra challenge. I once outright admitted to snooping in the code when I got stuck, so he is aware of at least one player who is able to read and decipher code on at least a general level unless he forgot or wasn't paying attention.

Don't overthink it, there's nothing elaborate about it. Whole source code is in readable form, you don't even need to unpack anything (not that it would be a major obstacle). There's variable named "cheater" and it currently does nothing, except being set to true when you use cheats. Only author knows (maybe) whether it will do something in future. And if it does and it's evil or annoying, I'm sure it will be fixed very quickly.
And who's to say he won't fix the fix? :WeSmart:

Fuck the Sensei and the girls, I want an update solely focused on the bromance between Noodles and John.
Not good enough, bromance spin off with Noodles and John when? :p
 

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Does cckerberos Guide mod include a Gallery Unlocker? I notice that the separate gallery unlocker thread includes a v17 unlocker, that works via a modded screens.rpy file , and then I see that this Guide mod also includes a screens.rpy and so I can't use both, right?
No, there's no gallery unlocking in the guide mod.

The two mods could be made to work together easily (the guide mod only adds two lines to screens.rpy), but you can't use both without modifying one of them.
 

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And who's to say he won't fix the fix? :WeSmart:
That's possible, but good luck with that in long term. As long as it's offline game where people get their hands on everything, somebody would fix it again. So many have tried to prevent such things...
 
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alex2011

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I think we're forgetting a certain butler. DLC release when?
Ah yes, that is missing. We need those coffins and outfits, do we not? :p

That's possible, but good luck with that in long term. As long as it's offline game where people get their hands on everything, somebody would fix it again. So many have tried to prevent such things...
And that is also easily fixed by encrypting the files, Renpy can do that and, actually, that's the way most people do it, though common files like console.rpy don't usually get touched, making setting the console to on easy either way. That wouldn't help very much if the variable gets changed along with the encryption, though.
 
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