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honestly its getting a bit difficult to separate pre-loop and current sensei anyways, if you take away the interference of other users/angels/gods then characters have noted we are acting 'like we used to', Maya clearly also (probably) thinks the same, and we remember things that 'we' (mc sensei) was not present for when talking with Noriko. lo has mentioned trauma repressed memories, etc. Perhaps theres more to the mc sensei than we're being shown.

lo mentions memories repressed by trauma, Noriko's entire character is 'our' memories, Maya's too (to an extent, and in a different way), Yumi is always around when we have trance-like fugue-states where we lose all of our memories of what happened during them (Noriko too, now that I think about it), also Yumi has asked us if we've lost memories, there might be a clue somewhere here for somebody more invested than I to decipher

oh and unrelated, but, can one of the lore-buffs explain what the deal is with the detentions old-sensei used to give Yumi is?
 
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Not just that, but the hints dropped in her Character Events like Under the World Tree and especially Crash of Thunder were pretty strongly pointing at that being the case.

This is true, but there have been clues that the basement of the school, specifically the boiler room iirc, holds some information that the powers that be don't want Sensei to know.
What is it with the boiler room? I've noticed a lot of you mention it, but I can't recall when it was said in LiL.
I also thought it's under the school, but only because of the happy event that takes place in a dark classroom. With no light, it's likely to be underground. And it's a classroom, so...

He does glitch in the current paid update when Noriko starts going on about some stuff that happened after the accident.

But Niki tells him quite a lot about his past and outside of the letters and a jumpscare that felt more like a meta-joke than an actual in-game event, he's fine.

So it feels more like there's something very specific about that period that she's trying to keep him from finding out.
Let's see.
As I understand the timeline (please correct me, I'm writing this with the need to sleep and slight alcohol consumption):
Original Sensei has a brother and lives close to the Nakayamas.
His brother also has a wife and daughter.
Sensei wants to become a teacher and grows close to the Nakayamas, particularly Niki, who he has a relationship with.
Sensei seems to also have had an affair with his sister in law, with her "grooming" him, evident by her teasing and well, the happy scene with the teacher (who is likely the sister in law and his inspiration for becoming a teacher).
The car accident happens and Sensei takes Ami and moves away, not informing Niki of his whereabouts.
Sensei lives in an apartment, simlar to Chika's current residence and tutors a multitude of students, despite having a questionable mindset in teaching (likely due to past experiences).
Among these students are Maya and Noriko, who found him.
Maya is similar to Sensei and they grow fond of each other, likely starting a relationship.
Noriko sees Sensei with someone "redacted". When I read this line in the update, I thought it would be Ami's mother, but she would have a slight case of being dead at this point in time, so I wonder who this could be?
Maya reaches high(?) school and may or may not have been impregnated by Sensei.
Sensei, unable to bear responsibility, decides to jump.
From here on it's unknown what happened leading to the resets, but Maya praying despite not really believing in god may indicate that she made a deal with either one or multiple gods to bring him back.
The revival was not 100% successful. Either different aspects of Sensei became the temporary main controller of the body (such as the one that wanted to be a good teacher, evident by what his reputation is before changing his teaching style) or different people were placed into his body (if we consider something like souls as balls in a basket, then a random ball was taken every reset while trying to find the "Sensei ball" (also haha, ball)).
Which brings us to the playable part of Lessons in Love, where we have dead Nozomu, Wire God (assumed to be User2) and unknown third god.
I was going to go somewhere with all this text, but I have no idea what I wanted to say, so enjoy this hopefully correct timeline.

Honestly, I have a feeling, that either I won't make it out alive to see the end, or something will happen with Sel, or something will happen with the world. If only we had a cloning technology to replicate Selebus x10... Oh well, it's about the journey and the friends we made on our path (personally: none :oops:)
Perhaps the real treasure was the pregnancies we made along the way.
Also we may not really be friends, but we're still fellow enjoyers of Lessons in love.
Average pirate who's looking for porn in LiL (and doesn't know the word of the day):
Average LiL story, character and mystery enjoyer: Alex and the (hopefully) majority of us

honestly its getting a bit difficult to separate pre-loop and current sensei anyways, if you take away the interference of other users/angels/gods then characters have noted we are acting 'like we used to', Maya clearly also (probably) thinks the same, and we remember things that 'we' (mc sensei) was not present for when talking with Noriko. lo has mentioned trauma repressed memories, etc. Perhaps theres more to the mc sensei than we're being shown.

lo mentions memories repressed by trauma, Noriko's entire character is 'our' memories, Maya's too (to an extent, and in a different way), Yumi is always around when we have trance-like fugue-states where we lose all of our memories of what happened during them (Noriko too, now that I think about it), also Yumi has asked us if we've lost memories, there might be a clue somewhere here for somebody more invested than I to decipher

oh and unrelated, but, can one of the lore-buffs explain what the deal is with the detentions old-sensei used to give Yumi is?
Maya did mention sometime that current Sensei is simliar to past Sensei (which is also how he is remembered, but that might just be reset magic making people adapt).
Perhaps Pre-Loop Sensei and Player Sensei are one and the same. We, both the players and Sensei, just don't know it yet.

Not a great lore-buff, but I can (hopefully correctly) tell you that we have no idea.
The detentions are unknown. We've theorized that they could have been sexual, but there's no definitive proof for or against said argument.
 
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oh and unrelated, but, can one of the lore-buffs explain what the deal is with the detentions old-sensei used to give Yumi is?
At the moment, we don't know.

We know that Sensei glitches around her, which is a sign that they have a significant shared history. Prior to Noriko, she triggered more glitches than anyone else, they're about equal now.

It is possible that the detentions were issued in an attempt for a previous version of Sensei to get closer to her, and that he assaulted her. She doesn't mention "the time you mouth raped" her until after the scene where he kisses her, so it's possible she's using VERY dramatic language to describe the kiss -- or perhaps she's alluding to something older.

There may have been an intimate relationship in the past. It may or may not have been consensual to start. Anything in this vein is, unfortunately, speculative.

There is one notable glitch during the second beach event, however, where Yumi is all but consenting to have sex with him. It's unclear if that's an alternate timeline, hallucination, or flashback, but it is noteworthy.

Also: Yuki assumes Yumi is dating Sensei and does not accept arguments to the contrary, and she wastes NO time reaching that conclusion. So it's likely that at some point in the past, she saw something or was told something to make this a reasonable assumption.

But again, purely speculative.

The next update focuses on Yumi, Chika, Yuki, and Sara, and will include a Happy scene. The presence of a happy scene indicates that this should be a pretty relevant update, story-wise, and it will likely drop some hints regarding at least some of those characters. I suspect the focus will be on what happened to Sana's son, but we might get lucky and get some hints about pre-game Yumi with it.
 

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Let's see.
As I understand the timeline (please correct me, I'm writing this with the need to sleep and slight alcohol consumption):
Your timeline appears to be correct, but I will point out that the reason Sensei jumped is speculative, not established.

I agree with that particular speculation, but the reason for the jump hasn't been established concretely in game yet.
 

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As I understand the timeline (please correct me, I'm writing this with the need to sleep and slight alcohol consumption):
Original Sensei has a brother and lives close to the Nakayamas.
His brother also has a wife and daughter.
Sensei wants to become a teacher and grows close to the Nakayamas, particularly Niki, who he has a relationship with.
Sensei seems to also have had an affair with his sister in law, with her "grooming" him, evident by her teasing and well, the happy scene with the teacher (who is likely the sister in law and his inspiration for becoming a teacher).
Somewhere here, I think, he disappears for the first time and then comes back.

Maya did mention sometime that current Sensei is simliar to past Sensei (which is also how he is remembered, but that might just be reset magic making people adapt).
Perhaps Pre-Loop Sensei and Player Sensei are one and the same. We, both the players and Sensei, just don't know it yet.
She straight up says that she believes him to be he real Sensei in a way that indicate that Sensei's from previous loops weren't him.
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I believe that to be the case. That after suicide, Sensei's body became a vehicle for deceased people and that he only now got a turn again.
 

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There is one notable glitch during the second beach event, however, where Yumi is all but consenting to have sex with him. It's unclear if that's an alternate timeline, hallucination, or flashback, but it is noteworthy.
Might I add that Yumi starts to act like a cliche romanceable npc the moment sensei disynchronises (maybe she reverts back to her original designs of how she "supposed" to be this far into the story and with this much affection?). Might be hallucinations, might be something else.
 

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so I was just poking through the images, and saw this Niki note (#4). My mind's blanking on what event it was from, but the part about Noriko stretching out the collar is kinda funny considering how Niki does the same to the shirt she steals from Sensei too.

Don't crucify me if this has already been mentioned, or if it's a very obvious part of the event. I'm a few beers deep right now and just thought it was funny. Also, the notes are kinda sad
 

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so I was just poking through the images, and saw this Niki note (#4). My mind's blanking on what event it was from, but the part about Noriko stretching out the collar is kinda funny considering how Niki does the same to the shirt she steals from Sensei too.

Don't crucify me if this has already been mentioned, or if it's a very obvious part of the event. I'm a few beers deep right now and just thought it was funny. Also, the notes are kinda sad
It's from Nikki invite. Really sad, yeah. Sensei's an asshole.
 
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so I was just poking through the images, and saw this Niki note (#4). My mind's blanking on what event it was from, but the part about Noriko stretching out the collar is kinda funny considering how Niki does the same to the shirt she steals from Sensei too.

Don't crucify me if this has already been mentioned, or if it's a very obvious part of the event. I'm a few beers deep right now and just thought it was funny. Also, the notes are kinda sad
When you invite Niki over in the current update, the five letters will flash by in rapid succession at some point.

The fact that we see them tells me that at some point Sensei did get them, but didn't respond for whatever reason.
 
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Not even close to better. Also, the girls are mostly high schoolers, which is still bad even for actual 18 year olds because they have no means to support themselves and potentially a child if he knocks them up, which his carelessness has the distinct possibility of making happen. He's also extremely irresponsible to the point where, even if he did knock a student up, he would probably try to get out of it any way he can.

In fact, that's one of the theories, that the jump at the beginning was due to finding out he knocked a girl up.
high schoolers arent that bad its not really pedophilia, age gap is not problem for me,but manupilation is different thats why i dont like him i always prefer to say truth but still i dont think he is bad as characters who likes his mom or daughters xD . also thank you all , i was stuck at happy ending but im ok now .im bad at puzzle like games except MGQ
 
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There is a way to skip rin events ? i really dont like her i dont like her because she is lesbian its weird because i prefer yuri over straight sometimes. rin is annoying and im scared to see more yuri scenes or more like yuri love im okay with scenes like maki and haruka.
 
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so I was just poking through the images, and saw this Niki note (#4). My mind's blanking on what event it was from, but the part about Noriko stretching out the collar is kinda funny considering how Niki does the same to the shirt she steals from Sensei too.

Don't crucify me if this has already been mentioned, or if it's a very obvious part of the event. I'm a few beers deep right now and just thought it was funny. Also, the notes are kinda sad
Damn. Sensei really is a cunt, isn't he? Even past/OG Sensei isn't really a good person. The girls clearly loved him and he just goes and abandons them like that? What the fuck. The theory that pre-loop sensei killed himself over Maya's pregnancy is starting to make more and more sense the more I read into his pre-loop character tbh. Especially because he doesnt seem like he was ever a stand-up guy.
 
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There is a way to skip rin events ? i really dont like her i dont like her because she is lesbian its weird because i prefer yuri over straight sometimes. rin is annoying and im scared to see more yuri scenes or more like yuri love im okay with scenes like maki and haruka.
Rin isn't a lesbian.
 

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Damn. Sensei really is a cunt, isn't he? Even past/OG Sensei isn't really a good person. The girls clearly loved him and he just goes and abandons them like that? What the fuck. The theory that pre-loop sensei killed himself over Maya's pregnancy is starting to make more and more sense the more I read into his pre-loop character tbh.
I suspect there's more to it than that.

After the accident, Sensei vanished from Niki's life entirely, but later he started tutoring Noriko and their parents were okay with that, but never told Niki this was happening? It makes no sense. We're missing some details.
 
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I suspect there's more to it than that.

After the accident, Sensei vanished from Niki's life entirely, but later he started tutoring Noriko and their parents were okay with that, but never told Niki this was happening? It makes no sense. We're missing some details.
Perhaps, one of them might be confusing the timelines a bit, but still kind of an asshole move to just disappear.
 

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Eh, I dunno. I wrote "letters" that I never sent to my ex when we split up, too. Helped me process my emotions.
But your ex still existed and you were aware of it. You just never intended to send it (which is fine).

They weren't "letters to someone who doesn't exist"
 
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Current Sensei is a very unreliable narrator anyways. He always makes himself seem like an evil sociopath but there are also times where he says stuff like 1637379423153.png
he's clearly shown to be able to have some sort of regret for his actions (even when they weren't his), and this is only way after the fact. Maybe Yumi is special somehow or maybe we aren't in control of the same sensei, some of his conversations with Noriko make him seem pretty human, compared to the USERS that basically force the girls. I still want to hold out some hope for the idea that Sensei isn't a completely garbage human and that there are sometimes greater forces at play in regards to his morality and actions.
 
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Somewhere here, I think, he disappears for the first time and then comes back.


She straight up says that she believes him to be he real Sensei in a way that indicate that Sensei's from previous loops weren't him.

I believe that to be the case. That after suicide, Sensei's body became a vehicle for deceased people and that he only now got a turn again.
It is possible she's wrong. When the game started, Sensei had absolutely no memories other than jumping. There's no real confirmation that he's the original and not, say, the brother or even someone tangentially related like Haruka's husband
 
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