- Nov 3, 2019
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Definitely true. Sex scenes are the least of the worries...
By then Selebus's LiL version will be completely SFW
Oh there's a definite problem, but it isn't with the game, it's Patreon's priorities. By complaining about underage girls and incest in the game pretty much exclusively, they're saying all these supposedly, but technically unconfirmed, underage pixels on a computer screen and this relationship between a bunch of pixels who happens to be related to another bunch of pixels is an issue when there are far more pressing concerns that aren't taken into consideration at all regarding the potential for the game to have a negative psychological or even medical impact on players who are unable to endure certain situations within.Definitely true. Sex scenes are the least of the worries...
By then Selebus's LiL version will be completely SFW
Seriously Patreon, are you going to tell me that a bunch of pixels on a screen with no real world impact being removed is more important than the players who don't heed the many warning signs being scarred or even having an existing condition aggravated by mistakenly playing the game when they couldn't handle it? I mean, sure, the child potential is there, but that is the parents' responsibility to monitor and forbid the child from playing the game, but so is the potential for adults with conditions triggered by situations in the game or that simply don't have the mental constitution to be able to handle such things, again their responsibility, not Selebus's.
For the record, I am in no way saying Patreon should actually make a move on that front, that is again the players' responsibility, they are grown adults and can decide for themselves. What I am saying is that Patreon seems to have majorly screwed up priorities, they are prioritizing a non-issue, because none of the banned content is involving real people or fake characters based on real people, over something with a potential medical impact under the wrong conditions.
It might be SFW, but they still aren't covered to the point of having no skin showing from the neck down, literal puritan style. They are showing way too much skin for future Patreon's puritan standards even when fully clothed in their normal outfits. He could always just switch full time to their winter outfits, but that would just be silly. Then again, with what I've heard of Selebus's plan for the Patreon version, putting them in their winter outfits full time might fit. If there is one positive thing coming out of this, it's the hilarity that awaits as a direct result in the Patreon version. We probably wouldn't have gotten this version otherwise because there wouldn't have been a point.
- Jun 14, 2017
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You guys are worrying to much, the happy scenes will be present in the 18+ version while they're cut for the SFW version.
Selebus posted this in the announcements channel of the Discord:
Actually, recently I've come to believe that the aggressor was the sister in law, and that she may have been Sensei's teacher at the time.
I mean, they didn't exactly say the 'happy' scenes were a problem, though a few scenes are implied because of the underage pixels involved. He isn't actually obligated to remove any that don't fit within that implication...yet. It was more a what if than a worry as nothing has been stated about the 'happy' scenes directly.
Selebus is just lucky there's no rule against handing over the offending version of a game to a completely unrelated developer for continuation.
The huggy boy?...oh, this is going to be gold.Selebus posted this in the announcements channel of the Discord:
Under the implication in the story, that is correct that it was the sister in law, not Sensei. I wouldn't put it past Patreon to take issue with it as if he was the aggressor, though, in an alternate situation where they actually got the chance to look at more aspects of the original before it got handed over to Subeles so Selebus didn't get in trouble.
- Feb 10, 2021
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Ahh really? I try not to pay attention to the sub-text too much in the light scenes for now as they're virtually impossible for me to make heads or tails of, but I do try and I do enjoy reading a lot of people's theories on it (especially here). What changed that swapped the narrative from it being him, to being her?
If I'm remembering correctly, it was less a change and more an issue of things we didn't yet know coming out that basically flipped the entire narrative in the opposite direction of what we originally thought. A lot of things in the game end up this way when they first come out and then get more detail later. I have a feeling she was always the aggressor and it was never Sensei raping her. This then leads into his own mental issues, which are potentially related to the trauma of being raped by family, people that most trust implicitly. This is actually a somewhat common real world issue in childhood sexual crimes, being sexually assaulted, molested, and/or raped by the people the victim trusted the most, leading to potential mental issues or worse later.
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I don't think the were any rape involved at all. I remember erlear game dropping hints of Sensei feeling inadequate and inferior to his own brother, so I think he might have had a crash on his sister-in-law and, at some point, she noticed and took advantage. Later down the line she still chooses his brother and that what led to Sensei adapting more cynical outlook and then he get's even more fucked up when they die in car crash, since he, apparently was at the scene and get to hold her pierced and twisted body.
Yeah, that would fuck someone up real bad, the aftermath of the crash as you described it, I mean. I don't know, there just seemed to be this implication of what was likely going on wasn't fully his choice.
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Yeah, I'm actually in this boat myself. Although, I didn't really realize how off I was till a bit recently and I've been trying to get help for my issues myself.
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Yeah, a bunch of events, most prominently Something Everyone Knows And Ignores, set Sensei's relationship with his sister-in-law up as a parallel for the sort of relationships he's been pursuing with his students. We don't know whether she was literally his schoolteacher -- she's presented as one in SEKAI, but that event is so metaphorical and symbolism-laden that it's hard to be sure -- but she definitely was the one who initiated their sexual relationship.
Setting aside for the moment the things Teacher says in SEKAI, we have this from Halloween 2, off the top of my head:
(The association with sakura trees is part of how we know this is his sister in law: one of the first things we learn about Sensei's sister-in-law, during the event where Sensei and Ami go to the gravesite, is that she wore cherry-blossom perfume, and Sana's event The Complete Absence of Everything talks about [redacted] having a favorite tree and shows an image of cherry trees in bloom)
Setting aside for the moment the things Teacher says in SEKAI, we have this from Halloween 2, off the top of my head:
This has obvious parallels to how Sensei grooms his own students to make them more comfortable with the idea of having sex with him.
(The association with sakura trees is part of how we know this is his sister in law: one of the first things we learn about Sensei's sister-in-law, during the event where Sensei and Ami go to the gravesite, is that she wore cherry-blossom perfume, and Sana's event The Complete Absence of Everything talks about [redacted] having a favorite tree and shows an image of cherry trees in bloom)
Since we had halloween update this year as well, patrons will have a Christmas one? Right after the Halloween mess? This one won't be nearly as merry.
At least we're getting an update, though. Things could have gone much worse and the Patreon could have been shut down entirely. Patreon isn't obligated to give second chances at all and could have set up a no tolerance policy with no second chance before the termination of violating projects, as bad a policy as that would be and as big a negative impact as it would have on Patreon themselves.
What? There was something going on with Patreon? I didn't know. I wasn't talking about that with "Halloween mess" but rather what happened in the story, lol.
Yeah, Patreon finally caught onto the whole incest and short girls with small chests in high school thing and told Selebus to
I mean, the empty shell that Patreon wants basically is the Christmas update unless Subeles is also working on the original version, that is now in no way tied to Selebus, at such a rapid pace that he can get something out in a week. If he is, that deserves some serious kudos because that would be an insane turnaround that I absolutely do not expect out of anyone and that would make me worry about his health with the sheer effort required.
Christmas is probably not cancelled. On Patreon a week or so ago, Selebus posted this about the schedule:
So, if .21p2 is releasing to patrons 1/15/22, the Patreon mess has caused a month delay from the schedule he originally outlined back in November:
So probably we'll get .22, the Christmas update, on 2/15/22, .23p1 on 3/1, .23p2 on 3/16, and then launch into the rework. Also, calling it here, my guess is that .23p2 will have the fourth reset and second changing of seasons, because leaving us on a cliffhanger in the main plot while he does the rework is the evil shit Selebus would do.