Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

EllisL4D2 · Jan 31, 2022

mistawankas said:
I expected this "you don't get it" or "not for you" because you created non-canon in your head of what isn't here. A 14+ hour read of literally nothing happening? That isn't patience or misunderstanding, it is a bad game you all hope becomes better. Echo chambers are bad and you shouldn't get so upset someone wants the game to be anything other than the most blatantly shit it can be in every aspect. Sorry your safe space was invaded by critical thinking beyond a middle schooler level.

It is a horrendous spooky game. It is a horrendous h-game. It is a mediocre story telling game. It doesn't respect any of your time invested and pretending there is deeper meaning is a pathetic non-excuse. Have you people never played any other vn, ever? Even a 4 hour read like DDLC completely annihilates the pretend meta/horror garbage this game conned you into believing. After 5-8 'happy' scenes it all boils down to "lol spooky game for middle schooler brains", it does NOTHING but setup nothing at all. Like every scene in this game so far. Imagine telling your "friends" you need to read a VN for 14+ hours and accept no conclusion to anything in the game, also the writing is bad. You are close to Higurashi and Steins length at that 14hr point. Actually good VNs.

There is no meta story here. Injecting random nothing into scenes isn't meta or story. Imagine playing ANY OTHER VN and you find out all the background noises and scenes names combine to unlock a hidden "meta" website url to cover for when the game is junk. There is no hidden meaning, you just want there to be to cover for the mediocrity of a story that is swollen with nothing but more patreon characters added. I did get off the ride but too late, hopefully I can warn others it can never be a good title without fundamental fixes. Fixes/redos needed from the start and a second writer that understands how to write phycological content if it NEEDS to be forced. Fixes so the happy garbage can be redone from children tier to maybe high school tier. Currently this vn isn't story focused, it has NO focus but adding more words without substance to keep patreon payments.

Don't be mad your time is wasted and you are accepting it. The happy scenes mean nothing. You fucking know it. I bet in your head they do but they don't. Your confusion isn't depth. How mentally slow can you be to call others toddlers for respecting their time to avoid pretend depth? There is no fucking hidden lore or meaning to any of it, just shit writing that you eat up. It can all be summed up into a sentence of "lol so it isn't as it seems IT IS ALL A GAME!!!", the game makes the same sense if you skip every happy scene, meaning they are useless.

my time isn't wasted because i don't have time worth being wasted

anyways happy scenes do mean stuff, they give lore and explanations, examples being baby finches happy scene

Dragon1982 · Jan 31, 2022

EllisL4D2 said:
Don't pull a what? If you mean lewding her..

it's going to happen.

He means killing her literally.

PrimeGuy · Jan 31, 2022

As a general comment to those weighing in on the current heated discussion: Everyone is free to decide what is a waste of their own time.

You feel the game is a waste of your time? That's your prerogative, that's how *you* feel. If you're not interested in seeing if you can feel differently about it, that's your business too. If you want to let the forum know that's how you feel about it, and explain why (as some have) that's valid feedback.

You feel the game is enjoyable? Time well spent? That's your prerogative too, that's how *you* feel. Chances are in this case, you have no interest in feeling differently about it either (most people don't want to change to disliking something they enjoy after all). If you want to let the forum know that's how you feel about it, and explain why (as many have) that's also valid feedback.

However, telling other people how they should feel about the game, or the time spent on it, is not valid feedback. We should never try to tell other people they should, or shouldn't like something.

I believe the time I spend with this game is not wasted. I believe that the happy scenes do have some part to play in the overall story. I believe there are mysteries which do entice me. I believe the characters' personalities are engaging and enticing. I want to protect them all, and make them all feel good and happy. I know this is not what will happen, and I can't stop myself from watching the horror unfold click by click.

If you believe that there is no overall story, or mysteries, that the game is just full of random stuff, then yeah, I can see how you'd feel it was a waste of time. You feel how you feel, and letting the author, and other potential players know that's how the game hit you is good - other people might wind up feeling the same way. I'm not going to tell you you're wrong for feeling that way.

On the other hand, it hit me different, and that should be okay too.

Dragon1982 · Jan 31, 2022

barglenarglezous said:
Nope. The solutions are all within the game, and half of them the game even calls out that is' handing you something important.

The most esoteric reset is the one that doesn't have any actual codes you have to enter, you just wander around and do things until you've done the right things to progress. It's a callback to the 90's style adventure games where you progress by trying anything and everything until something works, and the entire point of that sequence is that you're meant to feel alienated and lost.

The more recent resets, where you had to type in specific things to progress, the answers are handed to you.

The IP address is called out in the text and you're even told it's important.
The user is an audio clue in an earlier scene (this is the easiest to miss since most people play audio off). Fortunately, if you've been paying attention, there are only 3 or 4 viable options, so trial and error can easily brute force you through
The password is literally handed to you in an earlier scene.

In the most recent reset, in the scene immediately prior to it, there was a screen that randomly popped up saying "WRITE THIS DOWN YOU ONLY GET ONE CHANCE" people flooded this page asking for the information that was on this screen. The rest of the answers were in the scene that could be viewed any number of times before you answered the questions.

That's not on the game. That is %100 on the player.

Speaking of missable stuff, could you read my post on page 635 and see if you know what the problem is? Even the walkthrough doesn't have an answer to my problem.

Dragon1982 · Jan 31, 2022

EdensRest said:
People don't need a guide or a walkthrough for the numbers that it tells you to write down, barglenarglezous

While people do get stuck because they don't want to bother with a number puzzle on a sex game, it's not the main issue

The games very easy when you know exactly what to do from the changelog and the character info page which tells you which 4 girls you have events with (I'd know). I'd suggest starting a new game and trying to figure out the labyrinth that you've got to go through if you aren't playing update by update. You'd then understand why new players need both a guide and the wiki

They get stuck in an endless loop of repeatable events when they have to do one specific thing on one specific day with one specific girl. It's pretty much guess and hope that after knocking on everyone's door and going through them day by day,
that a new event appears and stops blocking the main story

In other words, they find the game a tedious chore and then come here to complain about it. And then people like you complain about their complaints. Because there's no walkthrough

Makes sense, no?

Maybe you might understand my issue I posted on page 635?

barglenarglezous · Jan 31, 2022

EdensRest said:
People don't need a guide or a walkthrough for the numbers that it tells you to write down, barglenarglezous

The questions that get spammed to this forum for about two months after every update in which one of those "puzzles" gets added to the game disagree with you. And I was responding to someone -- even quoted it in the text -- who said that the resets are unsolvable without a guide. That was the specific point I was addressing.

Now your point -- which is entirely seperate -- is a valid criticism of the game. Some people enjoy that gameplay loop, some people don't. As someone who grew up playing text adventures and early (pre-Myst) point and click games, I personally love that gameplay style of trying anything and everything without any clear guidance, but I also recognize that it isn't for everyone.

There's a dopamine hit that comes from finally unlocking the scene when you have no clear guidance on how to do so that you don't get if it's spelled out for you. Or at least, for me there is.

barglenarglezous · Jan 31, 2022

Dragon1982 said:
Speaking of missable stuff, could you read my post on page 635 and see if you know what the problem is? Even the walkthrough doesn't have an answer to my problem.

Sorry, I havne't played through that sequence in well over a year and am waiting until after the rework to replay through the early content, so I can't really help you.

moodle · Jan 31, 2022

Dragon1982 do you have a save from when you were in the loop? I'm interested to check.

SymbolicSalad · Feb 1, 2022

New update is officially out and it didn't get leaked.

Wonder if the next one will get leaked.

Lolicon Kami · Feb 1, 2022

SymbolicSalad said:
New update is officially out and it didn't get leaked.

Wonder if the next one will get leaked.

You're in luck

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Good news everyone! Lessons in Love 0.21.0 Part 2 (sex version) is now out!

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