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I laughed so hard at that final bit i coughed my smokers lungs up... and again reading it as i type this... fuck me... Schrokovam's gunblade... epic... got tears in my eyes...If I may provide an option...
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I laughed so hard at that final bit i coughed my smokers lungs up... and again reading it as i type this... fuck me... Schrokovam's gunblade... epic... got tears in my eyes...If I may provide an option...
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Basically that, ayeIf I may provide an option...
Yeah, you're right, definitely not. Still, I worry too much of LiL is left to chance, making aspects of the story more immune to critique then it deserves to be. Needless to say, we won't be able to tell for sure until the story is updated for the last time. When/if that day comes, I'm sure everyone here will be feeling a bit more hollow than usual, regrettably.Of course, it's all a work in progress, but Sel doesn't strike me as the kind of person who'd alter the core of their vision, otherwise this would probably still be on patreon and the wizards wouldn't exist.
I am in complete agreement with you on this. Selly designs his world this way so that whatever card he plays he can claim it's a wild card and the way he plays definitely goes by the rules. But sometimes I do feel like he is taking this a little too much, making things extra incomprehensible not because some necessities due to story reason, but because he can just do that. The truth is if you do it often enough people will drop some aspects of the game and focus on what they are "allowed to understand" (seen folks here giving up god stuff completely and only looking forward to teenager dramas, and it's completely understandable).I feel like a question like this could be infinitely revisited since LiL is stated to be a continuously progressing narrative with no end in sight. To illustrate this, we know so little about what the foundational state of LiL is supposed to be, specifically because one of the main points of LiL is that we are not supposed to understand it. Since we cannot objectively understand many aspects of it, theoretically anything can happen to change constants we presume to understand already, and we would be none the wiser if it is intentional, a retcon, a revision, or normal progression. The fantastical nature of LiL means literally anything can occur, and it could seamlessly flow through the story or be explained away as some expected anomaly necessary to fulfill a point of the narrative we might not know about. Is that good writing or a weakness? It may be impossible to tell.
There are two bugs:By the way, I never encountered the room with thecocksclocks during my playthrough. I only noticed it when checking the event list.
How is that possible...
Meta-rant here but you know what really frustrates me about this site sometimes? The quality of discussion is so damn good in this thread that it has ruined every other thread for me. Eternum updated recently and I can't even attempt to wade into that brain-dead thread where every 9 out of 10 comments are "hurr durr my waifu is better than urs" "u take that back!!1 our cult is best!!1"Anyway just a little rant; I am mostly positive for what the future holds but going into rabbit holes just happens sometimes.
Speaking of rabbit holes...I am in complete agreement with you on this. Selly designs his world this way so that whatever card he plays he can claim it's a wild card and the way he plays definitely goes by the rules. But sometimes I do feel like he is taking this a little too much, making things extra incomprehensible not because some necessities due to story reason, but because he can just do that. The truth is if you do it often enough people will drop some aspects of the game and focus on what they are "allowed to understand" (seen folks here giving up god stuff completely and only looking forward to teenager dramas, and it's completely understandable).
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Despite this, however, I am mostly fine with this because I subjectively want to believe that somewhere in a plain of existence there is a LiL story with its main structure already done, all its milestones already set, and its final destination already scheduled to perfection or at least to our hearts' content so that every piece of clue one day will fall into place. For this he has to do his part in doing great articulations, and not just by using the phrase everything is connected as some sort of almighty spell when that should be your goal and not your method. As long as he nails the important elements, a few dents in the story which result from making pit stops that I personally deemed unnecessary are acceptable. You might only get a 9/10 because of it but it's ok since stuff out there that barely meets 8/10 is so far few and between already.
And by "nailing the important elements", I really hope his vision on LiL is firmly set after that massive rework. For example, I suspect his idea of how LiL should play out shifted ever so slightly after the revamp solely by judging the difference between the old and the new The Room with Clocks, where the new one introduces Maya variants sentient about how weird the world surrounding Sensei is, a second god, and Himawari a lot earlier; all relevant components with proper explanations still lacking.
So I guess what I meant by I am mostly fine, I am probably just patiently withholding judgement on a work in progress. Keep working on the project and be as convoluted as you want to. You can confuse us and we will confuse ourselves from time to time by reading too hard into an unfinished work. But there will be one day where we are able to look at this whole presentation as a hopefully cohesively weaved piece of art, and question the content in every single slide that he made a choice to include.
Anyway just a little rant; I am mostly positive for what the future holds but going into rabbit holes just happens sometimes.
Dev angered the mods so the game is no longer promoted by this site.Off-topic, but why does the latest updates page say it's been 4 years since the last update?
Is that why this thread is apparently hidden, too? I don't see it in the forums. Been a bit puzzled, there's basically no mention of it anywhere on Reddit, rarely on 4chan, but upwards of 30k posts in this thread.Dev angered the mods so the game is no longer promoted by this site.
Crazy that this is probably one of the most active threads on this site despite no longer being promoted by it.Is that why this thread is apparently hidden, too? I don't see it in the forums. Been a bit puzzled, there's basically no mention of it anywhere on Reddit, rarely on 4chan, but upwards of 30k posts in this thread.
I didn't know that happened here, I thought this site was mostly impartial... well, there are the issues with Loli stuff, which this is, so I guess it fits the narrative. I'm assuming asking what other games have received the same treatment is a no go.Dev angered the mods so the game is no longer promoted by this site.
You've got the wrong end of the stick I think. The content had no bearing on the conflict between this site and the dev. The incidents basically revolved around piracy and the dev implementing DRM that could delete save games, amongst a few other things, but I will reiterate that the content of the game/story had no bearing on it not featuring in the latest updates page. If it did it would've most likely been booted from the site completely.I didn't know that happened here, I thought this site was mostly impartial... well, there are the issues with Loli stuff, which this is, so I guess it fits the narrative. I'm assuming asking what other games have received the same treatment is a no go.
I think that's why all the VN subreddits banned it, and let's be real here, actually putting ages in the care package character outlines was a stupid, stupid thing to do. Especially in a game where the whole plot is based around time loops and reality-warping. Arguing about the age of fictional characters has always struck me as idiotic anyways, but just stick the standard "all characters are 18+" disclaimer on it, not like a billion other VNs do that and get away with it or anything. Shit, the assets for LiL are made with Koikatsu Party and that's on Steam. And this might be showing my age and lack of VN knowledge a bit, but I don't ever remember hearing complaints over Katawa Shoujo like this.I didn't know that happened here, I thought this site was mostly impartial... well, there are the issues with Loli stuff, which this is, so I guess it fits the narrative. I'm assuming asking what other games have received the same treatment is a no go.
I know that there's a dedicated group of us that constantly post here, lots of very recognizable names that keep the thread alive. What I think is more surprising is new people finding this thread since the game is un-promotedCrazy that this is probably one of the most active threads on this site despite no longer being promoted by it.
I found out about this game only because it was mentioned on the Adventure Trainer thread and how the dev was inspired by LiL. Curiosity led me here and now it’s one of my most anticipated games as far as awaiting each update.I know that there's a dedicated group of us that constantly post here, lots of very recognizable names that keep the thread alive. What I think is more surprising is new people finding this thread since the game is un-promoted
To be clear -- it's not the game itself that prompted this, it's specifically the behavior of the dev and others acting on his behalf. There are rules devs are expected to follow here, and continuing to violate them and making it clear that they intend to keep doing so gets a game de-promoted.I didn't know that happened here, I thought this site was mostly impartial... well, there are the issues with Loli stuff, which this is, so I guess it fits the narrative. I'm assuming asking what other games have received the same treatment is a no go.
May update would contain no main events, so it is unlikely to have reset there. Also, mid-chapter resets not used to be that important and never were a cliffhanger beforeOne question, as I remember Selly said there would be no update in June or July, I don't remember which one it is but what if the last update before the break has a reset that will end with something important happening just to make us anxious and suffering with the 2 month wait?
Thanks for the answer, but I'm taking into account that since it's spring and from what Maya had said there was never a reset in spring and also taking into account that that Big Boy appeared in the last Reset, what else bizarre and real could appear on the roof now on reboots?May update would contain no main events, so it is unlikely to have reset there. Also, mid-chapter resets not used to be that important and never were a cliffhanger before