Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

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Ah, nostalgia, my very first comment was to refute + confirm some information about Ami. Maya as well do that again. There were a lot of hints that Ami knew, not only about Maya tho, about the fact there are others too. Sel is a fantastic writer, but even he is restricted by the fact that he is not a professional writer. Some of these "hints" are far too obvious to miss, some on purpose, others not so much. She knew in case of Maya or at the very least heavily suspected her, to such level that it may as well have been a confirmed suspicion. It is not retcon, no idea about "gets sent back" shit probably new update stuff, but Ami knowing about Maya is not a retcon, it was there from the beginning. Edit: In early updates her reaction to possibility of Sensei betraying her were more on the line of "deep down I always knew, but never wanted to admit it" kind of stuff or "I always knew, but never wanted to accept it" stuff, but it was never "I never knew".
 
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Kuru said:
I am horrified and disgusted in myself for needing to ask...
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If you add the URM file (my signature) to the /game folder in the LiL folder you can easily use it to see the variants to scenes yourself, a little tag pops up when there's a flag or variable check. Takes 2 seconds to install and use. As to answering your question, it's a somewhat sadder scene, but it doesn't punch you in the gut, just cuts different, her take on how things went down and what comes next is simply not as touching as the other version.
 
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Kuru said:
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If you decided to leave, she says she's in love with you and wants to get married with you immediately even though she finds marriage stupid and that she's finally being seen as a human and doesn't know how to react, you get +50 affection when the event ends if I remember.
If you decided to stay and fuck her I just vaguely remember that she says she's expecting lots of cuddles in the future if you keep this up, it was generally in a sadder tone and she basically tells herself that's the way Sensei shows how he loves people while he says he doesn't know if it's love or not, and her love is *set* to 100 or so.
 
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So I just finished my playthrough last night and now got around to read up on all the feedback and theory crafting.
As per usual, our lore masters Moonflare, aramaug and bargle didn't disappoint, some very nice theories and thought experiments, wonderful!

However, before I start with my general feedback post, I wanted to touch on one subject that I was personally surprised to find a heated discussion for:
The reset puzzle.

Now, please bear with me, because I will actually take a bit of an opposed stance on this from the general consensus in this thread.
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Also, on another note, did someone find out if you are able to save Kenji?
I obviously clicked through all mobs right at the beginning, but figured there would be some alternative dialogue if you waited to face him when you have more spells and equipment later on. Just obviously couldn't bother to reload as it was clear it would not be crucial to getting through the puzzle.
 
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NicolasL4D said:
Sekai in the past and Sekai now seem like completely different people personality wise.
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This is the update that has me thinking, either:
1) perhaps the ghost Sekai that haunts Akira isn't a "natural product" of a dead person's spirit, but a curse that Akira subconsciously placed on himself,
2) or simply the voices in her head and/or the life she was in haven't gotten to her yet.

Option 1 has been discussed quite a lot, but mostly in the direction of simply deciding whether the free floating Sekai is real or only exists in Akira's head; since we can find more than one scene where Sekai could directly or indirectly interact with other characters, we presumed ghost Sekai is "real to everyone".

However, after revealing the human side of Sekai in this update, I can't help wondering about additional questions like "Why does a woman who supposedly only cared about Akira then Ami and probably nothing else when she was alive, become this evil sex nymph that we see today after her death?" Could it be that the ghost Sekai isn't a 100% representation of her original self, but a twisted conjured entity with her darkest traits emphasized and amplified?

Essentially, this is the application of some rather common ideas in media when it comes to interacting with dead spouses' spirits. Either their imagery is infested in a horrifying manner by alive spouses' negative emotions like resentment and guilt toward the dead ones, or you simply cannot summon a 100% representation of a dead one's original self anyway; you'd always summon something that feels like her but not her.

Combining other information in this update, namely "how to become a god", "everything you can imagine is real" by Pareidolia and the eerie end of this happy event (Sekai's funeral photo as soon as she said "I don't think I'd be able to [leave you] if I tried"), it feels like the ghost Sekai is literally a curse Akira placed on her that results in a terrifyingly twisted dead girlfriend spirit who not only haunts Akira but also is capable of free roaming and pestering others.

Option 2 on the other hand is a lot more straightforward; her descending into madness at that point was far from completion.
 
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NicolasL4D said:
Sekai in the past and Sekai now seem like completely different people personality wise.
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Flashback Sekai was a whole person. Flawed, has a dark side, but also full of hopes and dreams and the capacity to love.

There are two Sekais in the "current" timeline. The Sekai posessing Kaori, and the ghost of Sekai.

This town has two halves.
The world of Lessons in Love is the town of Kumon-Mi.
Sekai translates to world.
Sekai has two halves.

All the good in Sekai now lives in Kaori's donated heart.
All the bad in Sekai has taken the form of her ghost.

That's my reading so far, at least.
 
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So, on to my general recap of this update. Or more so, things I found interesting and were not talked about yet (or enough).

Starting with one thing that really warmed my heart and gave me confidence that maybe not following the green path might actually be viable in some form. At least that's my copium for now, because this scene was just too beautiful:
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Chika is even more delulu and bat-shit insane than I thought after the last update. This is bound to become interesting. Or is it?
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Now on to a few points that I would like to ask the help of the lore master squad (LMS) for.
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Also on a side note: The party scenes where Good Kid was playing made me realize once more that those songs clash with having to read text and being able to process them properly, it's just too distracting. Even though that particular song wasn't that bad.
In fact, I actually really liked the 8bit version in Sensei Quest. Call me a filthy millennial, but it was a bop.
So in conclusion, I like their music. It just doesn't always fit unfortunately.
 
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DeanNorris said:
Also on a side note: The party scenes where Good Kid was playing made me realize once more that those songs clash with having to read text and being able to process them properly, it's just too distracting. Even though that particular song wasn't that bad.
In fact, I actually really liked the 8bit version in Sensei Quest. Call me a filthy millennial, but it was a bop.
So in conclusion, I like their music. It just doesn't always fit unfortunately.
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Every time he puts on Good Kids I'm just reminded of how he fumbled the bag so hard with these, all he had to do was take the Pox song and just have it be instrumental instead of the version with lyrics and it could've made for some great scenes if he used it right.
 
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Bingoogus said:
Ha, now that it's brought up again, i giggled everytime goodkid was on screen or the characters commented on it cause all i heard and enjoyed was Touka's theme... cause i replaced every one of their songs with it... :geek:

It's called marshmallow in the game folder.
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Actually this time it wasn't as bad as the April Fools update, probably because the instrumental feels fittingly lowkey melancholy. That of course didn't last long because 10 sec into the event their vocal decided to MAKE TOO MUCH FUCKING NOISES.

Just use their instrumentals Selly if you want to keep a Canadian band in your game this bad. Please.
 
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